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Boston College Hockey, Part II

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Hokydad said:
You go away. The scout was also an ex BC all american with zero agenda.

This is a report I just saw on him, about exactly as I see. Without name etc, would not be at bc or drafted. many, many better to piock from in junior leagues. Most of whom would not have been talking about leaving BC for Pros summer before freshmen year

Talent Analysis
A very green, but reliable defensive-defensemen who is still developing. Samuelsson lacks the skill of most drafted defenders, however.

He gets himself into a good position, which makes him a big presence down low. Very conscious in his own end. Does a good job of getting stick in passing lanes and forcing turnovers, especially with a poke check. Should take the play to the opposition instead of waiting. Average skater who needs work to on improving his overall footwork, strength, and stride. Also needs to become more efficient moving the puck out of his own zone. Has a tendency to try and force the puck up ice. Generally stays glued on the back end in the offensive zone. Developing a hard shot from the backend. Needs to get quicker with his hands in all areas. Sees time on special teams.

Future

Samuelsson is a long shot for the NHL at this point. He is noticed for his size and name, but has a lot of development ahead of him.
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What did Andrew Albert's pre-college evaluation look like?
Mike Mottau's? Brian Boyles's?
How do you KNOW so much?
Why did you chastise an entire fan base's thread, insinuating they berated a player (the coaches son), then come to our thread and berate players?
Why do you also berate players on other team's threads?
Do you think you are a hypocrite?

That's a lot of questions, but I believe you'll have no trouble answering all of them with 100% certainty.

One last question... ain't it time for you to go haunt some other thread?
 
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While we're asking hokydad questions, I have one:

Are you a fan of one particular college team?
 
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BCWH Superfan joe said:
Please go away. Samuelsson has been one of the top D on the team all year and has tremendous upside. Any "scout" who says he turns the puck over every time he touches the puck is probably a scout for the Maple Leafs or Islanders.
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Woah Woah woah. Time out. The Islanders scouting and drafting has been pretty good, and right now they have a solid young team that looks like it could be good down the road. Their problem has always been that the GM has always been forced to trade away anyone good and they haven't been able to sign big name free agents because they dont have money. Charles Wang lost 29 million dollars on the team last year. Having a pretty subpar arena doesnt help attract free agents either. Lets not bring the Isles into this forum lol
 
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tomwarns said:
Woah Woah woah....
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From USHR: He's not related to Dave Silk.
6'2", 165 lb. Austin Prep sophomore RC Brendan Silk has committed to Boston College for the fall of 2012.

A 1/13/94 birthdate from Wakefield, Mass., Silk was a standout at last summer's Select 15 Festival and, for our money, is the top '94 forward in Massachusetts right now (and there are a few good ones, too). Silk can skate, plus he has size, hands, patience, and sees the ice well. He projects as a power forward with finesse. He's still growing into his body and is expected to top out at around 6'4" and approximately 200 lbs.
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Q: How do you make a North Dakota fan sick to their stomach?
A: Show them this week's Bracketology
 
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FiveHole12 said:
What did Andrew Albert's pre-college evaluation look like?
Mike Mottau's? Brian Boyles's?
How do you KNOW so much?
Why did you chastise an entire fan base's thread, insinuating they berated a player (the coaches son), then come to our thread and berate players?
Why do you also berate players on other team's threads?
Do you think you are a hypocrite?

That's a lot of questions, but I believe you'll have no trouble answering all of them with 100% certainty.

One last question... ain't it time for you to go haunt some other thread?
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None of those 3 had 1 or 2 goals in 3 years.. Have not met a single scout who said he would have been drafted if not for his name, zero
 
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Hokydad said:
None of those 3 had 1 or 2 goals in 3 years.. Have not met a single scout who said he would have been drafted if not for his name, zero
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Not every d-man has to score goals. So you're saying one team saw him as a 2nd round pick and every other scout didn't think he should be drafted at all? Sorry, I don't believe that. You're hiding behind a username and unnamed sources. Nobody here knows who you are or what you do.

Hokydad said:
ME, BC, PC, BU, PC, ND, BG, HC, Harvard
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Wow, that's almost completely random.
 
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My favorite part of this Hokydad anti-Samuelsson screed is that the scouting report he posted, presumably gathered from his crack insider source that's publicly available on the internet, is actually pretty good and contains some very positive statements... Oh no, you mean a college freshman defenseman is green and needs to improve on some aspects of his game? LOL
 
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I will say this and leave it at that.

He was drafted in the 2nd round by an org and a group who has forgotten more about hockey then I will ever know.

Doesnt change my opinion, nor did it change the guys I talked to.

Pitt is a class org with a great track record of developing and picking talent.

Of course the report was on line, no SH**. Superfan, that is not what the report said, it said he is green and lacks the skills of the other players drafted. It also said he is a long shot and NEEDS to develop a lot before he gets there. Not that he had a ton of upside. It also said that his name was a huge part of the pick. If he was superfanjoe, he wouldnt have been drafted.

I didnt say every other scout, but eevry other scout I talked to, which included 3 teams. You know the old sayings, 1 is, "you dont have to be on central scouting but you do have to be on our list", the other being, "Only one team has to like you"

I hope I am wrong as I dont wish bad results on any player who works hard to get there.

Just an opinion.
 
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So lets get this straight. Lyles = good - Samualson = bad.
At what point should we have begun to question your credibility? :rolleyes:
 
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jdevoejr said:
So lets get this straight. Lyles = good - Samualson = bad.
At what point should we have begun to question your credibility? :rolleyes:
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Lyles is a good 6-8th d for BC, an insurance policy.
The two have nothing to dow ith each other.

I have seen each play enough for many years to make my own opinion. Nothing has changed
 
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Hokydad said:
Lyles is a good 6-8th d for BC, an insurance policy.
The two have nothing to dow ith each other.

I have seen each play enough for many years to make my own opinion. Nothing has changed
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Where would you slot Samuelsson on the current team, also a good 6-8th D?
 
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