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2024 Elections: One Last Chance for Democracy

FadeToBlack&Gold said:
Seeing stats that 46% of Gen Z voters broke for Trump. I look forward to smirking at the next generation of adolescent-minded deadbeats as they squat at the end of the bar and whine about their "b1tch ex" getting a court order to garnish their non-union wage for child support.
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“No one caters to men so we have the sads”
 
It's the economy, stupid. That's why Americans voted for the one-time billionaire son of a millionaire slumlord who has bankrupted five companies, and left office after his first term with the economy in shambles.

Can we retire that tired, old d1pshit Carville quip already?
 
FadeToBlack&Gold said:
It's the economy, stupid. That's why Americans voted for the one-time billionaire son of a millionaire slumlord who has bankrupted five companies, and left office after his first term with the economy in shambles.

Can we retire that tired, old d1p**** Carville quip already?
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I don't think he's gonna handle the economy any better but it's not exactly surprising that people keep flip-flopping between these parties when neither has had a coherent answer to the problem for like 30+ years now.
 
At least a buddy of mine from high school won his state seat again. Even though his area shifted to the right over 3.7 pts in other areas of the ballot, he still won his fourth term by 2.
 
I've had 3 days off since Labor Day. Thanks a lot America. I wonder how many of the nearly 300 people I personally registered to vote voted for trump. Our GOTV effort was more coordinated than I've ever seen it before, enlisted more volunteers than ever before, knocked on more doors, made more phone calls, and reached more voters than ever before. What a monumental waste of my time. This election is the last straw. I'm through doing anything political outside of my own obligation to vote. I'm tired of seeing up close and personal more people than I can count who surely voted against their own interests. F uc k them. You got what you wanted and kept a woman from being president. Half of this country can go straight to hell.
 
WeAreNDHockey said:
I've had 3 days off since Labor Day. Thanks a lot America. I wonder how many of the nearly 300 people I personally registered to vote voted for trump. Our GOTV effort was more coordinated than I've ever seen it before, enlisted more volunteers than ever before, knocked on more doors, made more phone calls, and reached more voters than ever before. What a monumental waste of my time. This election is the last straw. I'm through doing anything political outside of my own obligation to vote. I'm tired of seeing up close and personal more people than I can count who surely voted against their own interests. F uc k them. You got what you wanted and kept a woman from being president. Half of this country can go straight to hell.
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^^Not brainwashed, not delusional

lmfao poor little baby.
 
Handyman said:
If that is even close to true I am not sure how long they can pretend he isn't completely screwed. He is getting killed with Women and he won't be making up enough ground with other demographics. An 8 point drop amongst his core demographic has to be seen as a death knell if it holds past the early exit polling.

I did see some fun videos from SC a couple weeks back where the young women at the University of South Carolina all said they supported her because of Abortion. That won't be enough to flip it but its still fun to watch :)

Still a long way to go but if he is already ranting about Philly then they are getting troubling info there as well.
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Lmfao

You definitely get Gimp Retardd of the week.

Holy shit do you say a lot of stupid sh*it, non of which came even close to happening.
 
RaceBoarder said:
I think it's a fair point to concede that the judgement was made in 2021-22. But that wasn't a secret.

And again, I'll repost the point I made this morning:

As a whole, Mookie has a point about the "economy".

Look at the make up of the board here:

- Only two regulars here that I can think of DON'T own a home
- I'd bet more than a few (30-40% ?) make well into the six-figures as a household (or are living at an equivalent economic status internationally)
- You easily support yourself AND kids
- Vacations/Travel (many international) are regular thing
- Y'all have retirement funds established

I've brought this point up many times over the past 3-4 years and I just get talked over. Just saying "corporate greed!!!11!1" doesn't make the situation better while you continuously flaunt the "great" economy numbers. Eventually when you do that enough, you will tick off whomever you are speaking to. As a whole, the board talks down to people who don't have money.

This is a real thing.


There are many involved that simply don't know how to message to people outside of cities and/or white people who are "poor". Even here, I kept getting told to "look at the stats" and explain while I felt the economy was bad. The fact that my discretionary spending went away was lost on most of the board here (save for a select few). Most of y'all just dismissed the point and went back to your much more affluent life.
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UE has never been lower and the inflation rate is 2.4% vs. a US historical average of 3.3%.

Meanwhile CEO pay has never been higher, margins have never been higher, stock buybacks have never been more frequent.

US mass media (most of which is operated by conservatives) has hidden these truths from the majority of the public. Don't talk to me about the "situation" when the indicators are not there to back up that argument. This isn't talking down this is talking reality. That a Big Mac meal costs $10 isn't a sign people can't live comfortably.
 
Deutsche Gopher Fan said:
I love bernie and he’s right about dems leaving some behind

but he likely would not have won
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In 2016 Hillary had plans to get the coal miners and everyone else displaced from their jobs due to the changing job landscape, technology, etc, training to transition into new areas of employment.

They weren't having it. "I'm a coal miner. I've always mined coal"

As I said, some people don't want to be reached, no matter how you try to help them. So much easier to just biitch and whine and find someone else to blame for their woes.

And let's not forget that so many of the Jan 6ers were pretty well off, owned their own businesses, comfortably middle class, six figure incomes, and yet, all they did was whine about how they had it so tough in their lives, they could hardly get by anymore, and it was all the gubmint's and the imgrint's fault.
 
This election arrested my march Left. Lessons Learned:
  • Marx was wrong: economic relations do not drive superstructure. Societies are tribal; economics is window dressing.
  • Lasting change is cultural.
  • Violence and dislocation cannot be the basis of a stable cultural change. The Marxist prescription of crisis and revolution is as flawed as Accelerationism.
  • Therefore, we should aspire to a bell curve with a relatively low amplitude, and within that the most effective position to command a democratic majority, either overtly politically or subversively through culture, is Gradual Left Centrism.
tldr: "Moderation is best in all things." -- Hesiod
 
rufus said:
In 2016 Hillary had plans to get the coal miners and everyone else displaced from their jobs due to the changing job landscape, technology, etc, training to transition into new areas of employment.

They weren't having it. "I'm a coal miner. I've always mined coal"

As I said, some people don't want to be reached, no matter how you try to help them. So much easier to just biitch and whine and find someone else to blame for their woes.
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Aparch - "My career is built upon the Infratructure act, and my wife's career sits atop Medicare/Medicaid. 71 Million people told us both to go f*ck ourselves, the promise of "cheap gas" is more important than us being employed."

HEY APARCH! Rufus called, for YOU!
 
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