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2024 Elections: One Last Chance for Democracy

Joe, the truth is somewhere in between. In the first 15 minutes of the debate I had my head in my hands thinking "democracies are fragile and they can fail, and when they do it's typically for STUPID reasons."

But I think this is an opportunity to use exactly the techniques the Right has used to avoid all responsibility for their crimes for the last four decades. Nothing is real unless it is dwelled upon by the media. Don't panic and let the news cycle move along. The slurry (from the article; appropriate word) of idiocies from the talking heads will simply cover over the past, like a landslide or a toilet explosion.

For once we can use the ten second attention span of the average voter for our advantage.
 
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So Friday Trump had an outdoor rally in Virginia...couldn't even fill all the bleachers. Also mocked solar planes by asking "what if the sun isn't out?".

And despite morons/washed up has beens like Claire McCaskill or Kasich saying every Dem was freaking out we have heard of no Dem (even leaking anonymously) that wants Biden out and any that speak publicly get almost red in the face about it. CNN tried to get Governor Shapiro to say it and that maybe he was a better candidate (multiple times) and he just blew by it. (As did Newsome and others) The Bidens were so worried they showed up at a Waffle House after the debate without a care in the world. The media seems to have no idea what is galleon and they aren't adapting. It's weird to watch in real time and will be studied a lot in the future.

BTW see Pelsee's reaction if you get a chance...I honestly think she would kick Trump in the balls if he stood next to her.
 
Kepler said:
Joe, the truth is somewhere in between. In the first 15 minutes of the debate I had my head in my hands thinking "democracies are fragile are they can fail, and when they do it's typically for STUPID reasons."

But I think this is an opportunity to use exactly the techniques the Right has used to avoid all responsibility for their crimes for the last four decades. Nothing is real unless it is dwelled upon by the media. Don't panic and let the news cycle move along. The slurry (from the article; appropriate word) of idiocies from the talking heads will simply cover over the past, like a landslide or a toilet explosion.

For once we can use the ten second attention span of the average voter for our advantage.
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Aren’t their two more debates, much closer to election?
 
I knew it would be worth the time to check in on you true believers. Still slurping up the Kool-Aid, I see LOL ...
 
The entire Dem Replacement was summed up on CNBC this morning. One of the guests went on a long monologue about how they felt the dems would rally around whoever is nominated, especially with someone up and coming like Whitmer.

"So would you vote for a younger, hipper, Democratic nominee like Whitmer?"

"No. The whole party has been taken over by the socialist wing."


Three segments later with another guest:
"Could a younger Democrat win?"

"No, because the policies of the party wouldn't change, there would still be open borders, irresponsible spending, and no path to make America energy independent."


And, on top of it, Joe Kernen mouthed off saying that the "Mainstream Media is in the bag for the dems," as a member of thr MSM who was voting for Trump.


Also, the dissonance the GOP congressman they interviewed was staggering "The Democrats have decided to rally behind the party and not the people, so we're gonna make sure our party wins."
 
rufus said:
The whole "replace Biden on the ticket" is just Repubs trying to shape the outcome they want.
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A lot of it was spooked Dems, like me. But as dx summarized well, it was an overreaction and we only need wait for the next Gale from the Windbag to take over the news cycle.

It also affords Biden a narrative people love: the Comeback.

Also I suspect every time people pound the The Senile Old trope there are millions of old voters who are offended and drawn to Biden in support. Politics is tribal.
 
Look, that debate performance was abysmal. The worst I've seen from anyone not named Donald Trump. And worse, the story isn't "holy crap Trump is insane", it's "BIDEN IS OLD!!!1!11!!"


It's good to see the Philadelphia Inquirer saying "are we kidding here? Biden should step aside?!".
 
A good way to get back on track.

BREAKING: The Biden campaign is making a multi-million dollar ad buy in critical swing states with this new ad slamming Donald Trump for being America’s biggest liar. Retweet to make sure all Americans see the contrast between President Biden and Trump.
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Also who am I to disagree?

To serve his country, Donald Trump should leave the race | Editorial
Biden had a horrible night Thursday. But the debate about the debate is misplaced. The only person who should withdraw from the race is Trump.
 
Swansong said:
Look, that debate performance was abysmal. The worst I've seen from anyone not named Donald Trump. And worse, the story isn't "holy crap Trump is insane", it's "BIDEN IS OLD!!!1!11!!"


It's good to see the Philadelphia Inquirer saying "are we kidding here? Biden should step aside?!".
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I believe the Atlanta Journal Constitution did the same thing. Both were in response to the NYTimes Op-Ed headline that Biden should step aside...even though the Times said if he is the candidate they endorse him in the article. (dont want to broadcast that though)

Bad debates happen (ask Obama) but pretty much everything that has come out since the freakout has shown either Biden didn't get hurt that bad or it was overshadowed by Trump's debacle. Post debate polling is showing the race didn't move much and there is obvious worry about Biden's age...but now Trump's age, crimes and lying are starting to show up. IIRC half of respondents thought Trump was too old and 2/3rds thought he should not be a nominee at all. Not to mention, he still has the part of his party that continues to not support him long after Nikki Haley went bye bye and after she "endorsed" him.

And Kepler, I said to my SO when she told me about the debate and it became obvious the punditry were going with the "Dems in Disarray!!1!1" storyline that there is a decent chance that you see sympathy start to show for Biden. (his speech the next day helped) And you can see the more they run with it the more the actual Democrats are getting fired up. I think they are kind of done with the media and their games and part of me wants to believe the people are starting to get there as well.
 
ActBlue claims to have raised $76m across the board since the debate. Speaking for myself, I chipped in for Slotkin for the first time since last year, and will be considering other contributions in the near future.
 
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