UAH Hockey 2011-12: Will Someone Break the Conference Logjam? Thanks.

[gfmorris]

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Heisenberg reports that Markham's (OJHL) captain, Jamie Kendra, will be a Charger next year. Haven't seen independent confirmation from the Waxers. That would be the first of the five forwards the program hopes to bring in for the class of 2016.

GFM

 

[gfmorris]

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Since then we've gotten commits from Texas's captain, Jack Prince, and a kid from Merritt's BCHL team, Chad Brears. Prince was given the NAHL's leadership award for 2012, and he is a UK national who moved to Detroit for midgets and then played three years for the Tornado.

Lou told me that everything recruiting wise should be wrapped up in the next week or so. I still expect two more forwards to finish us out. Anyone added from here out would have to be a walk-on.

I haven't asked about the schedule. I saw where RIT had to drop a couple CIS dates in BC in late December, and I emailed Lou, who is after them to see if he can scare up Jan/Feb dates. December's apparently in the can. I haven't heard anything about the schedule since between Tampa and Naples, and I know that Lou was working it every day because it's ... well it's what you'd expect it to be after we had a lot of games locked down for 12-13 and had to release all of our games. Hang in there, everyone. It'll be okay once we've gotten in a conference.

GFM

 

[fangers]

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In the Wisconsin thread they are showing us playing the Badgers @ Madison Dec 13/14

http://www.uwbadgers.com/sports/m-hockey/sched/wis-m-hockey-sched.html

 

[Hammer]

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Looks like Adrian is coming to Huntsville January 4-5.

 

[tnlong]

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I guess it's time to start building UAH's second-hand-information schedule.

10/12 Minn. St. Mankato
10/13 Minn. St. Mankato
12/07 Finlandia
12/08 Finlandia
12/13 @ Wisconsin
12/14 @ Wisconsin
12/28 @ Mariucci Classic
12/29 @ Mariucci Classic
01/04 Adrian College
01/05 Adrian College

 

[aparch]

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Combining your second-hand information and the known dates from the Schedules thread:

October 12, 13 - vs. Minnesota State Mankato
October 19, 20 - at St. Cloud State
October 26 - at Bentley
October 27 - at AIC
November 2, 3 - at St. Lawrence
November 16, 17 - at Lake Superior State [Rumored]
November 23, 24 - at Nebraska Omaha
December 7, 8 - vs Finlandia (D3)
December 13, 14 - at Wisconsin
December 29, 30 - at Mariucci Classic (Minnesota, Boston College, Air Force)
January 4, 5 - vs Adrian College (D3)
February 8, 9 - at Penn State
March 1, 2 - at Minnesota Duluth

 

[slowe]

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Crap. Beaten to the punch in adding Penn State to the list...


At the risk of beating a dead horse, how's the conference front? Mostly I'm curious if there is some event that may happen in the summer where people are speculating a decision may result? For example is there an upcoming meeting of ADs for the nWCHA or something similar? Or is there just a general feeling that it will happen "some time this summer?"

 

[gfmorris]

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USNTDP is coming again. It's not the late-February date that we've had in the past, although I guess that might be up to change if another home date showed up that weekend. I want to say the U-18 series is in January.

There's also a series between SLU and Lake. As I remember it, it's Mankato and then six straight weekends on the road. I could be wrong.

GFM

 

[Jim]

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I really hope the UCONN to Hockey East deal comes together and you guys get a shot at the AHA. Any idea how long UAH will hold out without a conference? this scheduling seems to be a real nightmare this year and will likely get worse when the new leagues, expanded leagues kick in.

 

[UAHStatman]

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At the risk of beating a dead horse, how's the conference front? Mostly I'm curious if there is some event that may happen in the summer where people are speculating a decision may result? For example is there an upcoming meeting of ADs for the nWCHA or something similar? Or is there just a general feeling that it will happen "some time this summer?"

There will be meetings of the nWCHA members to discuss the future -- don't know when those are. And they may not necessarily decide on UAH during a scheduled meeting, so "some time this summer" is basically all anyone can say right now.

And then there's the possibility of Atlantic Hockey, but I think the UConn-to-Hockey East deal will have to be consummated first before that can get serious.

I really hope the UCONN to Hockey East deal comes together and you guys get a shot at the AHA. Any idea how long UAH will hold out without a conference? this scheduling seems to be a real nightmare this year and will likely get worse when the new leagues, expanded leagues kick in.

If we fail to get into a conference this summer (maybe fall at the latest), this season will very likely be the last.

 

[gfmorris]

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If we fail to get into a conference this summer (maybe fall at the latest), this season will very likely be the last.

Yes. There is one stated vacancy and one potential one. If UAH was denied for both, there's no point in limping along as an independent.

If you're a UAH fan and you don't give money to the program, now is about dang time to start. http://chargerhockeyheroes.com/ to give. We take money from non-UAH fans, too. $5 or $5000, it all helps.

GFM

 

[gfmorris]

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Okay, one other thing: may have mentioned this before, but Lou mentioned at the banquet that NMU's AD selection had 2/3 candidates that had some favor for UAH. Forrest Karr at Fairbanks has been a proponent of UAH in the past, pushing for our CCHA bid and undoubtedly working on our behalf on the nWCHA front. [I say undoubtedly because I don't know it for sure, as I haven't emailed him this time through for his thoughts.] Sean Johnson was a finalist at UAH, and it's fairly safe to say that he was a strong second to Brophy. While Johnson isn't the hockey guy you might think in seeing him as a NoDak staffer, he does look favorably upon UAH, and he and Lou have had conversations.

Now davyd83 can chime in on this, but they did all their due diligence and on-campus interviews in April, only to have their president move on right at the first of May. In doing some reading tonight, I don't think the new president [an internal hire] was involved in the selection committee, so he's undoubtedly doing his due diligence. [I say undoubtedly because I haven't emailed him, either.]

No matter whether someone who looks favorably upon UAH or not gets the job, NMU is probably the best shot at busting up the UP schools as a voting bloc against UAH's nWCHA bid. I don't think it takes a Huntsville rocket scientist to realize that MTU, NMU, and LSSU are likely NO votes. Would a new AD be able to change a new president's mind about adding travel several hundred miles across the country? Maybe. I'll take a maybe.

GFM

 

[davyd83]

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Okay, one other thing: may have mentioned this before, but Lou mentioned at the banquet that NMU's AD selection had 2/3 candidates that had some favor for UAH. Forrest Karr at Fairbanks has been a proponent of UAH in the past, pushing for our CCHA bid and undoubtedly working on our behalf on the nWCHA front. [I say undoubtedly because I don't know it for sure, as I haven't emailed him this time through for his thoughts.] Sean Johnson was a finalist at UAH, and it's fairly safe to say that he was a strong second to Brophy. While Johnson isn't the hockey guy you might think in seeing him as a NoDak staffer, he does look favorably upon UAH, and he and Lou have had conversations.

Now davyd83 can chime in on this, but they did all their due diligence and on-campus interviews in April, only to have their president move on right at the first of May. In doing some reading tonight, I don't think the new president [an internal hire] was involved in the selection committee, so he's undoubtedly doing his due diligence. [I say undoubtedly because I haven't emailed him, either.]

No matter whether someone who looks favorably upon UAH or not gets the job, NMU is probably the best shot at busting up the UP schools as a voting bloc against UAH's nWCHA bid. I don't think it takes a Huntsville rocket scientist to realize that MTU, NMU, and LSSU are likely NO votes. Would a new AD be able to change a new president's mind about adding travel several hundred miles across the country? Maybe. I'll take a maybe.

GFM

It would be difficult to gauge the position on UAH by any one who would take the job. Even though Karr did support UAH at Fairbanks, I wouldn't make the assumption that he would show the same level of support if he is named at NMU. One must remember that at Fairbanks, the addition of UAH would have little, if any, effect on their travel and expense. Whereas the situation logistically and financially would be far different at NMU.

 

[hockeyplayer1015]

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Really hoping I'll be able to get to Canton, NY to see you guys play up at SLU in November.

 

[PerkyforPrez]

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Gfmorris I have never heard Lake States AD state if she was for or against it but I have heard coach Roque state a few times that he was all for UAH getting admitted when they tried to get in the ccha. The one stumbling block he stated was the scheduling with you sharing the arena but you have stated that that has been worked out. I think UAH will be accepted in to the nWCHA, the sooner the better.

 

[LtPowers]

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I saw where RIT had to drop a couple CIS dates in BC in late December, and I emailed Lou, who is after them to see if he can scare up Jan/Feb dates.

Unfortunately, RIT's schedule is complete; the games in British Columbia would be have been extras, so their absence doesn't open up room in the schedule. It's a puzzle to me why RIT hasn't played UAH in years. I'd think they'd be good tilts.


Powers &8^]

 

[gfmorris]

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Gfmorris I have never heard Lake States AD state if she was for or against it but I have heard coach Roque state a few times that he was all for UAH getting admitted when they tried to get in the ccha. The one stumbling block he stated was the scheduling with you sharing the arena but you have stated that that has been worked out. I think UAH will be accepted in to the nWCHA, the sooner the better.

I'm sure that Jim Roque and Walt Kyle would vote yes if it were up to them, but unfortunately that decision happens at the AD/presidential level. I don't know that having a Karr or a Johnson would help us significantly at NMU, but any help is good help.

GFM

 

[giwan]

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No matter whether someone who looks favorably upon UAH or not gets the job, NMU is probably the best shot at busting up the UP schools as a voting bloc against UAH's nWCHA bid. I don't think it takes a Huntsville rocket scientist to realize that MTU, NMU, and LSSU are likely NO votes. Would a new AD be able to change a new president's mind about adding travel several hundred miles across the country? Maybe. I'll take a maybe.GFM

Curious what you base your UP voting bloc on? Trying logical as the furthest to travel with some of smallest budgets? (We do not use logic here) Example wouldn't FSU be a no bloc (recent success aside) as they were almost going to cut the program not long ago? Care to list the nWCHA schools with your guess to it's vote and confidence level? Personally I would vote yes in. I mean who wouldn't want eight points

 

[davyd83]

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Curious what you base your UP voting bloc on? Trying logical as the furthest to travel with some of smallest budgets? (We do not use logic here) Example wouldn't FSU be a no bloc (recent success aside) as they were almost going to cut the program not long ago? Care to list the nWCHA schools with your guess to it's vote and confidence level? Personally I would vote yes in. I mean who wouldn't want eight points

Ask the Denver Pioneers about assuming victory against UAH. Also, if your team as beating up on one team, and everyone else around and above you in the standings is beating up on them as well, your net gain is ZERO. Not a viable reason to vote for them. Also, if UAH is able to gain a major conference affiliation, their fortunes in recruiting will improve dramatically.

 

[giwan]

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Ask the Denver Pioneers about assuming victory against UAH. Also, if your team as beating up on one team, and everyone else around and above you in the standings is beating up on them as well, your net gain is ZERO. Not a viable reason to vote for them. Also, if UAH is able to gain a major conference affiliation, their fortunes in recruiting will improve dramatically.

There you go trying to use logic. Plus Denver is a NaCHo league, and they forget the cheese sometimes.