Primary no. The seldom, if ever used secondary criteria, yes.
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The polls - scratching KRACH, PWC, CoP and robbery! ...---...
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Primary no. The seldom, if ever used secondary criteria, yes.
PrezdeJohnson09
Proud supporter of Osmirwich hockey
I'll double check tomorrow but I'm 98% sure Division II games only count in secondary criteria.
Re: The polls - scratching KRACH, PWC, CoP and robbery! ...---...
Considering the fact that ALL 6 of their losses are/were to ranked teams (or teams receiving votes), and with their two HUGE wins this past weekend, I would say it is completely understandable that they should get "SOME" votes.
Considering the fact that ALL 6 of their losses are/were to ranked teams (or teams receiving votes), and with their two HUGE wins this past weekend, I would say it is completely understandable that they should get "SOME" votes.
Re: The polls - scratching KRACH, PWC, CoP and robbery! ...---...
Let's agree to disagree (not everyday I can quote Men in Black 3!). I don't think 6-6 deserves to get votes, let alone most of the voters ranking them.
From the homer point of view, 9th for Plattsburgh seems about right. They looked pretty bad this weekend. If Finney is going to miss any time, they are in real trouble...
Let's agree to disagree (not everyday I can quote Men in Black 3!). I don't think 6-6 deserves to get votes, let alone most of the voters ranking them.
From the homer point of view, 9th for Plattsburgh seems about right. They looked pretty bad this weekend. If Finney is going to miss any time, they are in real trouble...
Re: Ecac/w
Re: Ecac/w
I am a little surprised that Norwich got a virtual freebie in the rankings after getting skunked by Middlebury. I agree Plattsburgh should be hammered for their 0-2 weekend.....but 6 spots???? One could argue that Oswego hasn't done much to be #5 either. Williams should be higher. The two WIAC teams split and each move up a spot?
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I am a little surprised that Norwich got a virtual freebie in the rankings after getting skunked by Middlebury. I agree Plattsburgh should be hammered for their 0-2 weekend.....but 6 spots???? One could argue that Oswego hasn't done much to be #5 either. Williams should be higher. The two WIAC teams split and each move up a spot?
Re: The polls - scratching KRACH, PWC, CoP and robbery! ...---...
In that case, when the NCAA ranking comes out in a few weeks, their Record vs. Ranked may not be too good.
Fishman'81
Black Bear since D-2
Re: The polls - scratching KRACH, PWC, CoP and robbery! ...---...
After excluding the Western teams -of which I have no informed opinion- this looks reasonable. An upset or two could stand the rankings on its head of course, but that's how close things are out here.
How do you calculate your metric? (Curious, is all... I rely on RPI to the 4th degree, which generally takes care of any common-opponent factor, then H2H as a last-ditch tie-breaker, which very rarely comes into play. And I ALWAYS ignore the polls.)
After excluding the Western teams -of which I have no informed opinion- this looks reasonable. An upset or two could stand the rankings on its head of course, but that's how close things are out here.
How do you calculate your metric? (Curious, is all... I rely on RPI to the 4th degree, which generally takes care of any common-opponent factor, then H2H as a last-ditch tie-breaker, which very rarely comes into play. And I ALWAYS ignore the polls.)
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Re: The polls - scratching KRACH, PWC, CoP and robbery! ...---...
Right now I'm going strictly by RPI. When the rankings come out in a few weeks, then they get factored in and I suppose I could factor in record vs. teams >= .500 RPI.
Do I think Trinity will be the last team standing? No. My money is still on the gang from DePere defeating the Lakers.
RPI is straight out of the handbook (on the wrong computer right now to look @ the formula) but I think its 25% WinPct, 25% OWin% and 50% OOWin%.
Right now I'm going strictly by RPI. When the rankings come out in a few weeks, then they get factored in and I suppose I could factor in record vs. teams >= .500 RPI.
Do I think Trinity will be the last team standing? No. My money is still on the gang from DePere defeating the Lakers.
Fishman'81
Black Bear since D-2
Re: The polls - scratching KRACH, PWC, CoP and robbery! ...---...
That >.500 thing can be tricky. It's like the "Teams Under Consideration" cliff that D-1 used, then discarded... IMO, it's much more fair to evaluate everyone on a continuum.
That >.500 thing can be tricky. It's like the "Teams Under Consideration" cliff that D-1 used, then discarded... IMO, it's much more fair to evaluate everyone on a continuum.
norm1909
Larry Normandin
Re: The polls - scratching KRACH, PWC, CoP and robbery! ...---...
This isn't good either:
UTC-4 Nick Miglio (5-Checking from Behind) (Served by Max Bartell) NEU 1x5 18:10
UTC-5 Nick Miglio (10-Game Misconduct) 18:10
3rd Period (20:00)
NEU 3 - 5 6x5 PP Mike Davis (6) (Ryan Luiten/7, Casey Rogers/7)
This isn't good either:
UTC-4 Nick Miglio (5-Checking from Behind) (Served by Max Bartell) NEU 1x5 18:10
UTC-5 Nick Miglio (10-Game Misconduct) 18:10
3rd Period (20:00)
NEU 3 - 5 6x5 PP Mike Davis (6) (Ryan Luiten/7, Casey Rogers/7)
EC_SoaringEagle83
New member
It isn't realistic to assume you can play well enough all season in the ECAC West to earn a pool c bid with all the other quality teams that are eligible. They need a seventh team!
norm1909
Larry Normandin
Re: The polls - scratching KRACH, PWC, CoP and robbery! ...---...
With Canton joining the SUNYAC, maybe Oswego could join their neighbors
With Canton joining the SUNYAC, maybe Oswego could join their neighbors
Re: The polls - scratching KRACH, PWC, CoP and robbery! ...---...
The current compooter rankings... Remember games vs. D-II, Aurora, and Daniel Webster don't count.
And, by conference
The current compooter rankings... Remember games vs. D-II, Aurora, and Daniel Webster don't count.
Code:
Current Last Wk Name CONF RPI
1 1 Trinity NS 0.6202
2 2 Oswego SU 0.6053
3 4 Amherst NS 0.5943
4 5 Norwich EE 0.5884
5 7 Wisconsin-Stevens Point WI 0.5827
6 6 St. Norbert NC 0.5821
7 8 Plattsburgh SU 0.5808
8 3 Wisconsin-River Falls WI 0.5787
9 13 St. Thomas MI 0.5750
10 14 Williams NS 0.5744
11 16 Wisconsin-Eau Claire WI 0.5715
12 10 Massachusetts-Boston EE 0.5713
13 11 Babson EE 0.5683
14 12 Hobart EW 0.5650
15 9 Adrian NC 0.5576
Code:
Avg. Rnk
19.17 EW ECAC-West
26.50 NS NESCAC
27.40 WI WIAC
31.33 SU SUNYAC
34.22 MI MIAC
39.00 EE ECAC-East
41.80 NC NCHA
48.00 NE ECAC-Northeast
59.57 MS MASCAC
63.00 IN Independent
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PrezdeJohnson09
Proud supporter of Osmirwich hockey
With Canton joining the SUNYAC, maybe Oswego could join their neighbors
Canton to the sunyac is not a done deal last I heard...
norm1909
Larry Normandin
PSUChamps2001
Member of the REAL Zoo Crew
Re: The polls - scratching KRACH, PWC, CoP and robbery! ...---...
Brace yourself for this week's polls lol
Brace yourself for this week's polls lol