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The 2009-10 NHL regular season thread: Slightly less meaningless hockey

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Charles Wang apparently set to pull the plug on Long Island's Lighthouse Project to refurbish and build up around Nassau County Coliseum.

And now let the relocation speculation begin in earnest.
 
Re: The 2009-10 NHL regular season thread: Slightly less meaningless hockey

Charles Wang apparently set to pull the plug on Long Island's Lighthouse Project to refurbish and build up around Nassau County Coliseum.

And now let the relocation speculation begin in earnest.

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One for every year they've sucked. Man it hurts to root for this franchise. :(
 
Re: The 2009-10 NHL regular season thread: Slightly less meaningless hockey

Charles Wang apparently set to pull the plug on Long Island's Lighthouse Project to refurbish and build up around Nassau County Coliseum.

And now let the relocation speculation begin in earnest.

Can the Islanders can keep playing the NCC much longer if the renovations don't go through? Everyone talks like the place is the eyesore of the NHL, and is ready to collapse in the next major blow.
 
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Can the Islanders can keep playing the NCC much longer if the renovations don't go through? Everyone talks like the place is the eyesore of the NHL, and is ready to collapse in the next major blow.

Yeah they've got an agreement to play there through either 2012 or 2015 and I think it's even been extended recently. I'm being too lazy to look it up now though.

Some of the Isles writers are saying to "not believe the hype" on this story as a lot of the nonsense that's gone on in this battle has been PR doctoring at its best/worst. This could just be more of that.
 
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Can the Islanders can keep playing the NCC much longer if the renovations don't go through?

No. If the Lighthouse project is dead, the team's toast. It may not be for 3 years, but by that time they'll have much better offers from other cities, and I can't see how they'd remain on Long Island.
 
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They have a lease through 2015 which is pretty ironclad. That is plenty of time to build a new arena in Willets Point. Brooklyn isn't happening for the Isles and may never get built.

If the Isles leave the NY metro area, a 3rd team will never enter the market again due to the payments that the Rangers and Devils would get for infringing on their market. Stan Fischler doesn't think the Isles will leave the metro area and sees Queens as their landing spot.
 
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I thought the Islanders had an opt out to leave in 2 years.

I haven't heard about any opt-out. Here is a recent quote on September 22nd by Wang regarding the lease which infers the current end date is 2015.

If I receive approval on re-zoning, I will negotiate with Nassau County to extend the Islanders' lease in a reborn Nassau Coliseum for 25 years past the current end-date, through 2040.

Here is an article from Newsday that discusses the difficulty of breaking the lease from last February. Basically, The Isles can't play home games anywhere but Nassau Coliseum until the lease expires.

ISLANDERS' LEASE MAKE RELOCATION DIFFICULT
February 5, 2009

Uniondale, N.Y. - Even if billionaire Charles Wang wanted to move his New York Islanders off Long Island anytime soon - as worried fans have speculated in recent weeks - it wouldn't be easy. That's because the hockey team's lease with Nassau County contains strong language that prohibits such a move - at least for six more years.

The agreement says the Islanders can't play any home game during the regular season anywhere but the Nassau Coliseum, which is owned by the county, until 2015. And legal experts say the lease can't be broken by paying off the remaining years because the prohibition, written as part of the 1985 lease and upheld by a Nassau State Supreme Court justice in 1998, says the team's presence on Long Island is what's important.

If the owner attempted to move the team, Nassau County Attorney Lorna Goodman said, he could be held in contempt and face the possibility of jail time, high fines and the payment of any damages incurred by the county.

Wang has expressed frustration over the slow progress of getting a new arena and his Lighthouse redevelopment off the ground. His comments, coupled with the team's recent announcements that it will play an exhibition game in Kansas City, Mo., which is actively seeking a National Hockey League franchise, and hold a training camp in Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, have fueled concern over the team's Long Island future.

If the Islanders were to contest the lease, Alfred Brophy, a University of North Carolina professor of commercial real estate law, said the county would win the case in court.

"It's a more extreme lease than you typically see," Brophy said. "If I'm the New York Islanders, I'm not sure I would want to sign this lease. From their perspective, it's a bad lease. But just because it's bad, it doesn't mean you can get out of it."

To go elsewhere, then-Justice Burton Joseph said, "would cause the county irreparable harm." The Islanders have generated at least $2.5 million in revenue for Nassau County just from admissions and advertising since 2006, county comptroller records show. (Newsday)
 
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No. If the Lighthouse project is dead, the team's toast. It may not be for 3 years, but by that time they'll have much better offers from other cities, and I can't see how they'd remain on Long Island.


They aren't going to leave the NY Metro. At worst, they'll just leave LI.
 
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Posted a while ago, but it is still ridiculous. These would be cooler if they were in-game goals though, not skills-competitions

Has everyone already forgot about Max Gerlach doing this same move last year and I believe roughly the same age as this Hisey kid.

I don't get why Hisey is getting so much press but Gerlach who did last year didnt get near the press.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pn9BT7pkQR8&feature=related
 
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Has everyone already forgot about Max Gerlach doing this same move last year and I believe roughly the same age as this Hisey kid.

I don't get why Hisey is getting so much press but Gerlach who did last year didnt get near the press.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pn9BT7pkQR8&feature=related

It might be because Hisey did a few years ago, not just last year. The one that many people see first is the one that they'll usually remember longer.
 
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It might be because Hisey did a few years ago, not just last year. The one that many people see first is the one that they'll usually remember longer.

I thought it was the other way around, the last one ;)
 
Re: The 2009-10 NHL regular season thread: Slightly less meaningless hockey

Has everyone already forgot about Max Gerlach doing this same move last year and I believe roughly the same age as this Hisey kid.

I don't get why Hisey is getting so much press but Gerlach who did last year didnt get near the press.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pn9BT7pkQR8&feature=related
Look up about 12 posts from yours ;)

http://board.uscho.com/showpost.php?p=4405751&postcount=261
 
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Fantasy question. We do weekly head to head. Categories are: G, A, +/-, PIM, PPG, Average Time on Ice and Blocks. I was offered this trade:

I get: Sidney Crosby, Christian Ehrhoff
I give up: Jonathan Toews, Mike Green

I recognize the Sidney Crosby! value. And I already have Ovie. That's a LOT of points. But Mike Green is a fantasy monster. We start 4 defenders and my other three are Erik Johnson, Pavel Kubina and Ryan Suter. Green is head and shoulders better than every other defender in pretty much every category except blocks and PIM.

I am leaning towards rejecting this trade because of it. Thoughts?
 
Re: The 2009-10 NHL regular season thread: Slightly less meaningless hockey

Fantasy question. We do weekly head to head. Categories are: G, A, +/-, PIM, PPG, Average Time on Ice and Blocks. I was offered this trade:

I get: Sidney Crosby, Christian Ehrhoff
I give up: Jonathan Toews, Mike Green

I recognize the Sidney Crosby! value. And I already have Ovie. That's a LOT of points. But Mike Green is a fantasy monster. We start 4 defenders and my other three are Erik Johnson, Pavel Kubina and Ryan Suter. Green is head and shoulders better than every other defender in pretty much every category except blocks and PIM.

I am leaning towards rejecting this trade because of it. Thoughts?
Green is basically a forward playing as a d-man, so I'd look at the trade as Crosby for a 70-point forward. Take the trade and use your defensemen to get stats in TOI and blocks. Ovie and Crosby will carry you in the rest of the categories (other than PIM).
 
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Green is basically a forward playing as a d-man, so I'd look at the trade as Crosby for a 70-point forward. Take the trade and use your defensemen to get stats in TOI and blocks. Ovie and Crosby will carry you in the rest of the categories (other than PIM).

Is this a keeper league? If so why are you asking this question? haha...thats a hands down deal.

Either way, I think you have to do the trade. As much as i dislike Sidney, he's still easily a top five forward in the game and having two of them should all but assure you a championship.
 
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