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Osama bin Laden Declared Dead

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Good cop, bad cop. Except it's become "Bad cop, worse cop" nowadays.
 
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Brenthoven said:
Good cop, bad cop. Except it's become "Bad cop, worse cop" nowadays.
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or bad cop, worse cop, wood chippper, nail gun, blow torch.

And while I'm totally supportive of the admnistration here, I wish they'd stop crawfishing around about the purpose of the mission. "This was an execution mission. We had no intention of bringing him out alive and all the problems that would have caused. We wanted him dead. And he's dead. Any questions?" I understand that they feel they have to use phrases to indicate OBL was maybe going to get out of this alive. We have so many groups of old ladies in this country now days. For heaven's sake we've got some old ladies complaining about the code name for the mission. Imagine if the president told the truth here. "You figure we should read him his Miranda rights, dummy? The mission was to put his lights out, period."
 
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geezer said:
I watched the video of Saddam's hanging with great interest. I don't think it did any severe damage to my psyche.
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I recall the whole experience being rather entertaining. And definitely preferable to seeing him shooting a rifle off a balcony, wearing his little Tyrolean hat.
 
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geezer said:
I watched the video of Saddam's hanging with great interest. I don't think it did any severe damage to my psyche.
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While disturbing, much like a "Faces Of Death" video, it was closure. I'm glad I watched it, but I don't want to see it again. That sort of thing.
 
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So I was reading more about Geronimo and did not know that it wasn't even his name. It was the name given to him by his enemies (Mexicans). Strange that the Apache would keep the name given to him by the people he was fighting instead of his given name.

As far as using it as a codename.. When is the last time the US government cared what Native Americans thought? Didn't we take this country from them, put them on reservations, and pretty much go back on every promise made to them?
 
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5mn_Major said:
That is a very poor choice. Seriously. They don't call them Native Americans for nothin. The first gaffe of the campaign.

Whether Obama handpicked the name or not is a big unknown.
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If you don't like it, go dig up Myles Brand and complain to him about it. :rolleyes:
 
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JF_Gophers said:
As far as using it as a codename.. When is the last time the US government cared what Native Americans thought? Didn't we take this country from them, put them on reservations, and pretty much go back on every promise made to them?
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What are you currently doing to help these poor people in their plight?
 
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Oh, you knew this was coming.

The killing of Osama bin Laden when he was unarmed has raised concerns the United States may have gone too far in acting as policeman, judge and executioner of the world's most wanted man.
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Former West German Chancellor Helmut Schmidt told German TV the operation could have incalculable consequences in the Arab world at a time of unrest there.

"It was quite clearly a violation of international law," .

It was a view echoed by high-profile Australian human rights lawyer Geoffrey Robertson.

"It's not justice. It's a perversion of the term. Justice means taking someone to court, finding them guilty upon evidence and sentencing them," Robertson told Australian Broadcasting Corp television from London.
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The UN Human Rights Commission is also now making noises about the killing. If you're scoring at home that's the same Human Rights Commission that's set to allow Syria to join.
 
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JF_Gophers said:
So I was reading more about Geronimo and did not know that it wasn't even his name. It was the name given to him by his enemies (Mexicans). Strange that the Apache would keep the name given to him by the people he was fighting instead of his given name.
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Because like a lot of tribal names, they were either never known, forcibly forgotten, or picked by whoever they met first in the area. Anasazi for instance is the name the Navajo gave for the people living in the area and it means "anicent enemy" or "ancient ones".
As far as using it as a codename.. When is the last time the US government cared what Native Americans thought? Didn't we take this country from them, put them on reservations, and pretty much go back on every promise made to them?
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Probably picked someone who had been alive to see a Buffalo Bill show.
 
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I guess I'm not too bothered either way if we release the photo or not. I do think this reasoning is sort of silly though.

US official: "The only skeptics are extremists and they wouldn't be convinced by a photograph anyway. So the president has to weigh the potential negatives and they're huge, there's a tremendous risk of the photo becoming a rallying cry for attacks against US soldiers, government personnel, and Americans in general."
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I mean, isn't the fact that we exist in the first place already a rallying cry for these extremists?
 
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So Osama's daughter, taken into custody from the compound awhile after the remaining chopper was full and gone, has told the Pakinstani press that Osama was "captured" alive and unarmed, then shot in the face before being loaded up. I don't doubt it. At that point, who wants to waste time explaining the situation to him if he's dragging his feet or throwing a tantrum? I don't want to say they were looking for anything they could reasonably call resistance, but I wouldn't blame them.
 
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WeWantMore said:
Oh, you knew this was coming.



The UN Human Rights Commission is also now making noises about the killing. If you're scoring at home that's the same Human Rights Commission that's set to allow Syria to join.
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Just once, I would like to see someone in the government stand up and say, "F-you! He was a criminal. He admitted his crimes in a public confession. We found him and we killed him. Now go away."
 
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