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Ohio State Coach???

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I agree that it remains to be seen how good a job Potter will do, but it certainly is a home run in PR for OSU and possibly in future recruitment. It was also a home run (to continue the baseball metaphor) for the lowly Washington Senators to hire Ted Williams as their manager back in 1969 to replace the "lemon" that they had the prior year. There's a myth, I think, that great players cannot be good managers. They get frustrated when the players can't do the things that they did so easily and they can't understand why any player would swing at a pitch 2 feet low and outside. There may be something to that, but Williams did turn an absolutely awful Senators team around that first year and like Frank Robinson became a manager of the year for doing so.

Mark Johnson. Great player and great coach for sure. I don't know, but it seems likely that some of those players that brought Wisconsin four national championships in five consecutive years with Johnson at the helm came there to be coached by a guy they had heard about since they first laced on hockey skates. Some great recruits may come to OSU to be coached by Jenny Potter as well. Time will tell.

One more Ted Williams story that I remember from an interview in 1969 (maybe on the Tonight Show or something). When he first arrived to manage the Senators he met with the players in the locker room to get to know them and ask a few pointed questions. He asked one young pitcher how he pitched to Harmon Killebrew. "Not very well," was the response.
 
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UMD could have had Potter if they didn't rush the interview process?

Baffled by the comment. Their top three were announced and she wasn't among them (for better or worse). Are you suggesting that it happened so fast that she didn't have time to apply to UMD? Seems to me that if she applied they just didn't want her.
 
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Or....did you ever think that she may not have been interested in the position at UMD? She may have been approached by OSU early and felt that her opportunity to make an impact was greater with the Buckeyes than at UMD. She can become a star in the coaching ranks quickly at OSU. Lower risk in my opinion. Just saying.
 
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I When he first arrived to manage the Senators he met with the players in the locker room to get to know them and ask a few pointed questions. He asked one young pitcher how he pitched to Harmon Killebrew. "Not very well," was the response.

Thats hilarious! My theory is that struggling players make better coaches because they had to think more about what needed to be done to be successful. But it still boils down to personality & leadership. But I don't think anyone really knows how well a coach will perform until they are in the job.
Jake : "That ball wouldn't have gone out of a lot of parks."
Ricky: "Name one."
Jakes: "Yellowstone."
 
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Or....did you ever think that she may not have been interested in the position at UMD? She may have been approached by OSU early and felt that her opportunity to make an impact was greater with the Buckeyes than at UMD. She can become a star in the coaching ranks quickly at OSU. Lower risk in my opinion. Just saying.

Applied and there was no interest in interviewing her.

Seeing as her attorney is apparently scanning this board I will reserve comment other than to say that I will be grabbing some popcorn and watching this situation develop.
 
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Or....did you ever think that she may not have been interested in the position at UMD? She may have been approached by OSU early and felt that her opportunity to make an impact was greater with the Buckeyes than at UMD. She can become a star in the coaching ranks quickly at OSU. Lower risk in my opinion. Just saying.

Maybe - as I said "if she applied they didn't want her" regardless of the reason. Others seem to have greater insight and indicate that she applied - I don't know. Given that she left U of M to go to UMD as a player and was very successful at UMD, be strange to me to think that she wouldn't be interested enough to at least apply. Whatever the reason (previous baggage, current baggage (including ties to Miller), lack of experience, whatever) it appears that UMD wasn't interested in her if she applied. I said in another thread I would be surprised if she were still at Trinity next season - so I'm not surprised and I'm not surprised she was more successful applying outside of Minnesota (just like she was when she applied to Trinity). Good luck to her at OSU - be interesting to see how it plays out.
 
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Or....did you ever think that she may not have been interested in the position at UMD? She may have been approached by OSU early and felt that her opportunity to make an impact was greater with the Buckeyes than at UMD. She can become a star in the coaching ranks quickly at OSU. Lower risk in my opinion. Just saying.

OSU has a lot more potential upside than UMD. Assuming the OSU AD is willing to spend toward hockey maybe she wakes a sleeping giant.
 
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OSU has a lot more potential upside than UMD.
I've been expecting upside from Columbus for a lot of years now. Is it possible to win at OSU? It should be. Has that been proven? If it was, I confess I missed it.

Miller got her team to 9 of the first 10 NCAA tourneys, and UMD won 5 of those. Then the Bulldogs opened their new building, reached the NCAAs in that partial season in their new home, and haven't been back since. I think the two biggest factors that hurt UMD was Miller didn't get the same support from administration that she had in the past, and North Dakota emerged as a competitor in both the standings and recruiting battles. I'm not sure about the administration situation at OSU; historically, it has been more of an issue than it has been at UMD. The UND hurdle is just as high in Columbus as it is in Duluth. If Bemidji State is going to continue to be a factor, I don't see how life is going to be much rosier at OSU than UMD, unless the Buckeyes can start attracting multiple Jincy Dunne type players at a time. Unless either Minnesota or Wisconsin stumbles (doesn't look likely at present), a third WCHA team will have a hard time making the NCAAs unless it can separate from that third-thru-sixth pack.

I get that people think Potter's name recognition will make a difference at OSU. Does her name have more clout that Julie Chu's did at Union? Katie King Crowley has done fine at BC, but BC is more of a hockey school, and the Eagles were already an NCAA team when she took over as head coach. Even if we assume that Potter's status as a star at the international level will elevate the program at Ohio State, I don't get why some seem so ready to dismiss Crowell at UMD. She seemed far more ready to make the jump to heading a program than all but a handful of assistants in women's D-I.
 
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No. Good Recruit(s) already released and on the move.

96IllinoisDad, I had not heard about any of our recruits being released and looking elsewhere? Care to elaborate?

Pgb, have you heard this? I have not heard anything regarding our recruiting class decommitting and going elsewhere.
 
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Just talked to someone in the know, and none of OSU's recruits have decommitted, nor are they looking elsewhere. 96IllinoisDad, you had me going. :D
 
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Just talked to someone in the know, and none of OSU's recruits have decommitted, nor are they looking elsewhere. 96IllinoisDad, you had me going. :D
Thanks. I was going to ask the resident Buckeye insiders that very question.
 
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96IllinoisDad is spot on.. Gardner has in fact de-committed and I heard she is now planning on attending and playing at another WCHA school...I won't say where because it is not official yet.. She is a very good defenseman and a will be a great addition..
Just talked to someone in the know, and none of OSU's recruits have decommitted, nor are they looking elsewhere. 96IllinoisDad, you had me going. :D
 
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any kid that that was going to these 2 schools because of the coach, and now doesn't want to, the schools are are better off without them, just like the schools are better off without the coach

if they cannot deal with a coaching change imagine how they'd deal with an injury or being relegated to the 4th line, they just aren't the type of person you want on a team
 
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