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Ohio State Coach???
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giwan
Really??!!
HockeyEast33
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Dust Bucket
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Re: Ohio State Coach???
Jenny Potter would be a great candidate...
Jenny Potter would be a great candidate...
Puckdrop14
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Re: Ohio State Coach???
There was a lot of discussion on Potter as a candidate early on. Of the D3 coaches, she is quite likely one of the top candidates to take over a D1 program and OSU may well a great place to start. Now whether or not the admin has shown any interest or if she has even applied is a big question mark. Whatever happens will happen but seems like it is taking longer for the selection process to be completed than was originally communicated.
There was a lot of discussion on Potter as a candidate early on. Of the D3 coaches, she is quite likely one of the top candidates to take over a D1 program and OSU may well a great place to start. Now whether or not the admin has shown any interest or if she has even applied is a big question mark. Whatever happens will happen but seems like it is taking longer for the selection process to be completed than was originally communicated.
pokechecker
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I have no idea who has applied for any of the positions either, but it seems to me that UMD's flub could be OSU's gain if you know what I mean.
(UMD had to rush the process to hire ... are you kidding me?)
FWIW, MSU-Mankato is in commuting distance of Mpls/StP metro area, whereas Duluth is over 2 hours away and risky of interstate being closed in winter. And MSU-M can afford ( or more accurately can't afford a proven D1 coach) to take a risk on someone who may not be a proven D1 coach, unlike OSU & to a lesser extent UMD.
OK, I'll say it, would make more sense for Potter to take over MSU-M and OSU get Sisti
I have no idea who has applied for any of the positions either, but it seems to me that UMD's flub could be OSU's gain if you know what I mean.
(UMD had to rush the process to hire ... are you kidding me?)
FWIW, MSU-Mankato is in commuting distance of Mpls/StP metro area, whereas Duluth is over 2 hours away and risky of interstate being closed in winter. And MSU-M can afford ( or more accurately can't afford a proven D1 coach) to take a risk on someone who may not be a proven D1 coach, unlike OSU & to a lesser extent UMD.
OK, I'll say it, would make more sense for Potter to take over MSU-M and OSU get Sisti
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I'm going to go out on a limb here and say something that may not make me too popular. I'm sure Potter has the potential to be a very good coach at the D1 level. BUT, I would like to see her have more success at the D3 level before I could just go out and say that she could take over a D1 program and be successful. Yes, they had a solid year at Trinity this year. But (again) let's remember that the entire team is not hers yet. I would like to see how Trinity does in the next few years after she's brought in her own recruits and made the program hers. It's easy(ier) to step into a successful program and do well, but it may not show what the coach is capable of in the long run if they can't continue the success. Something that Mankato and Ohio seem to need. Yes, she's a name because of her hockey background, and that may attract kids at first, but if you don't do anything with the kids you attract, word gets around pretty quickly and your player success becomes very short-lived.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say something that may not make me too popular. I'm sure Potter has the potential to be a very good coach at the D1 level. BUT, I would like to see her have more success at the D3 level before I could just go out and say that she could take over a D1 program and be successful. Yes, they had a solid year at Trinity this year. But (again) let's remember that the entire team is not hers yet. I would like to see how Trinity does in the next few years after she's brought in her own recruits and made the program hers. It's easy(ier) to step into a successful program and do well, but it may not show what the coach is capable of in the long run if they can't continue the success. Something that Mankato and Ohio seem to need. Yes, she's a name because of her hockey background, and that may attract kids at first, but if you don't do anything with the kids you attract, word gets around pretty quickly and your player success becomes very short-lived.
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I would have to disagree, and you can ask any college coach -- they typically cannot wait to get their own recruits in and have their own "stamp" on the team. It is not easy(er) to inherit a team. There are any number of reasons, philosophical, work ethic, talent, etc. that a coach may not like the players they inherited, but they are stuck with them, for good and oftentimes bad. Sometimes in the case of Trinity, they were achieving "success," but they weren't Amherst, Middlebury or Williams calibre. I don't know anyone who could argue Potter's coaching ability to take a group of girls and have them buy-in to her program in short order and they achieved far higher success than they, or anyone else before them at Trinity had achieved. Doing this with only one recruiting class is pretty dang good!
I would have to disagree, and you can ask any college coach -- they typically cannot wait to get their own recruits in and have their own "stamp" on the team. It is not easy(er) to inherit a team. There are any number of reasons, philosophical, work ethic, talent, etc. that a coach may not like the players they inherited, but they are stuck with them, for good and oftentimes bad. Sometimes in the case of Trinity, they were achieving "success," but they weren't Amherst, Middlebury or Williams calibre. I don't know anyone who could argue Potter's coaching ability to take a group of girls and have them buy-in to her program in short order and they achieved far higher success than they, or anyone else before them at Trinity had achieved. Doing this with only one recruiting class is pretty dang good!
Williams shouldn't even be on your list. They've had 3 winning seasons in the past 10+ years. Since at least 2007, Trinity has had success. When a coach comes into a successful program, the kids already have a set culture that way. Yes, there's a learning curve for the new coach's expectation, but she's had two years and her leading scorers are not her kids. Are you really going to tell me that she's qualified - right now- to lead a Mankato and/or Ohio state, teams that don't already have that immediate success, after really only being a college coach for two years and having not seen a team full of all her recruits?
Yes. That's what I'm telling you. One of them could be very lucky to have her!!
Puckdrop14
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I would have to agree. MSU have a young team that she can grow with while OSU have some promising young players and excellent recruits that she can eventually call her own. She would be fine at either school.
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Agree 100% with this post and with pakidnyc's post. pucko is overthinking things. If I was the AD at either of those schools I would take her in a heartbeat.
Agree 100% with this post and with pakidnyc's post. pucko is overthinking things. If I was the AD at either of those schools I would take her in a heartbeat.
hockeymaven
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pakidnyc said: "I don't know anyone who could argue Potter's coaching ability to take a group of girls and have them buy-in to her program in short order and they achieved far higher success than they, or anyone else before them at Trinity had achieved. Doing this with only one recruiting class is pretty dang good!"
You are way off base in suggesting Potter achieved "far higher success" than any prior Trinity team. The 09-10 team certainly had considerable success-- easily equal overall if not better to this years team.
Their overall record was 21-5-2 versus this year's team of 18-7-2- they finished second in league standings versus this year's team finishing third.
They too made it to the NCAA tournament (back then only 7 teams made it) losing a close quarterfinal game to Elmira 2-1.
Unlike this year's team they lost the Nescac tourney final in OT ( versus winning) however the previous day they had played what was then the longest game in D-III women's hockey history beating Middlebury in 4 OT's or the equivalent of playing two games back to back.
They also had individual success with Isabel Iwachiw being named NESCAC player of the year and several others named all NESCAC and/or All American's.
pakidnyc said: "I don't know anyone who could argue Potter's coaching ability to take a group of girls and have them buy-in to her program in short order and they achieved far higher success than they, or anyone else before them at Trinity had achieved. Doing this with only one recruiting class is pretty dang good!"
You are way off base in suggesting Potter achieved "far higher success" than any prior Trinity team. The 09-10 team certainly had considerable success-- easily equal overall if not better to this years team.
Their overall record was 21-5-2 versus this year's team of 18-7-2- they finished second in league standings versus this year's team finishing third.
They too made it to the NCAA tournament (back then only 7 teams made it) losing a close quarterfinal game to Elmira 2-1.
Unlike this year's team they lost the Nescac tourney final in OT ( versus winning) however the previous day they had played what was then the longest game in D-III women's hockey history beating Middlebury in 4 OT's or the equivalent of playing two games back to back.
They also had individual success with Isabel Iwachiw being named NESCAC player of the year and several others named all NESCAC and/or All American's.
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I think you'd have to compare her resume with others who have gotten hired at D-I & also to men's coaches who have taken over programs without a ton of experience. Not every D-I hockey coach started at some lower level head coaching slot & worked their way up. SOmetimes an AD just feels that a certain personality works for them or believes they can recruit/motivate as well or better than their other choices. I have no opinion on this particular choice but her resume is good enough to be considered I think.
I think you'd have to compare her resume with others who have gotten hired at D-I & also to men's coaches who have taken over programs without a ton of experience. Not every D-I hockey coach started at some lower level head coaching slot & worked their way up. SOmetimes an AD just feels that a certain personality works for them or believes they can recruit/motivate as well or better than their other choices. I have no opinion on this particular choice but her resume is good enough to be considered I think.
Puckdrop14
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Take out the bats!
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http://www.ohiostatebuckeyes.com/sports/w-hockey/spec-rel/041215aaa.html
Potter it is
http://www.ohiostatebuckeyes.com/sports/w-hockey/spec-rel/041215aaa.html
Potter it is
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I wonder if any of those darkly hinting that she has some problem will ever answer my request to explain what it is they are hinting at?
Good luck to her & OSU.
I wonder if any of those darkly hinting that she has some problem will ever answer my request to explain what it is they are hinting at?
Good luck to her & OSU.
Puckdrop14
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Congratulations to Jenny and OSU! This is terrific opportunity for her and does show some seriousness from the athletic department in bringing the women's hockey program to a new level!
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Even though I wasn't one of the hinters, ne7minder, I'll dive in. The discussion was a year or so ago, before you started posting. There was a discussion that Jenny Potter has some/or a interpersonal, or communication, or getting along with people issue(s), or problem(s). As I recall, there was nothing specific mentioned. What I took from it, as someone who knew nothing about it, was maybe there was something there, maybe there wasn't. What was mentioned was vague. But also, according to my recollection it wasn't particularly harsh either. Not really that mean spirited as these things go as I remember.
But at this early date, it sounds like a good hire to me also. One can imagine her being able to recruit in Minnesota, as well as everywhere else. Two down, WCHA-wise, one to go. So far so good!
Even though I wasn't one of the hinters, ne7minder, I'll dive in. The discussion was a year or so ago, before you started posting. There was a discussion that Jenny Potter has some/or a interpersonal, or communication, or getting along with people issue(s), or problem(s). As I recall, there was nothing specific mentioned. What I took from it, as someone who knew nothing about it, was maybe there was something there, maybe there wasn't. What was mentioned was vague. But also, according to my recollection it wasn't particularly harsh either. Not really that mean spirited as these things go as I remember.
But at this early date, it sounds like a good hire to me also. One can imagine her being able to recruit in Minnesota, as well as everywhere else. Two down, WCHA-wise, one to go. So far so good!