Re: Ohio State Coach???
Maybe the new coach did not want her and changed the original commit?
Maybe the new coach did not want her and changed the original commit?
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Ohio State Coach???
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pokechecker
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Re: Ohio State Coach???
certainly possible
I know there are a lot of highly intelligent people on this forum with inside knowledge, so please enlighten the rest of us telling us the answer to the question:
Why didn’t UMD hire Potter?
1) She did not meet the posted job requirements, and consequently did not apply for the job
2) Since UMD did not want her, the job requirements were set specifically set to exclude her
3) Realistically, whoever takes the job will be seen as a failure and consequently, very smartly, she didn’t apply
4) She applied for the job, but when the OSU job opened, she withdrew from the UMD job
5) Miller’s supporters were correct after all, Josh Berlo is an idiot
6) Because what’s her name is a better hire
certainly possible
I know there are a lot of highly intelligent people on this forum with inside knowledge, so please enlighten the rest of us telling us the answer to the question:
Why didn’t UMD hire Potter?
1) She did not meet the posted job requirements, and consequently did not apply for the job
2) Since UMD did not want her, the job requirements were set specifically set to exclude her
3) Realistically, whoever takes the job will be seen as a failure and consequently, very smartly, she didn’t apply
4) She applied for the job, but when the OSU job opened, she withdrew from the UMD job
5) Miller’s supporters were correct after all, Josh Berlo is an idiot
6) Because what’s her name is a better hire
Royale with Cheese
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Why attack some kids? You don't know them, you don't have any idea what kind of player or person they are. I would think it would be fairly difficult situation for a kid to have the coach fired after they commit.
Before the NLI the commit is little more than a verbal agreement between the player and the coach. If the players were good enough that they had options how could you fault them for not exploring those options?
It has been gone over many times on this forum that the NLI is an agreement between the player and the school, therefore unless both parties agree to break the agreement it could have some consequences to break it. Not an easy time for any of these kids no need to rip them for how the chips fall. I would guess the new coach was on the phone selling herself to St Louis 2 min after the offer and worked through the list from there.
Why attack some kids? You don't know them, you don't have any idea what kind of player or person they are. I would think it would be fairly difficult situation for a kid to have the coach fired after they commit.
Before the NLI the commit is little more than a verbal agreement between the player and the coach. If the players were good enough that they had options how could you fault them for not exploring those options?
It has been gone over many times on this forum that the NLI is an agreement between the player and the school, therefore unless both parties agree to break the agreement it could have some consequences to break it. Not an easy time for any of these kids no need to rip them for how the chips fall. I would guess the new coach was on the phone selling herself to St Louis 2 min after the offer and worked through the list from there.
charlieconway
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Maybe after getting rid of one polarizing figure, UMD decided they didn't want to sign themselves up for more of the same.
But since this is more of a multiple choice question, I'll go with 6.
nyhockey19
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Re: Ohio State Coach???
Always pick the school for the school. Coaches come and go, more so now than ever.
Always pick the school for the school. Coaches come and go, more so now than ever.
96IllinoisDad
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Well right or wrong, kids use a coaching change as an opportunity to review their chocies. It is a two way street though. New coaches reevaluate prior coaching promises for verbal commits and veteran players.
Well right or wrong, kids use a coaching change as an opportunity to review their chocies. It is a two way street though. New coaches reevaluate prior coaching promises for verbal commits and veteran players.
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I totally agree with this. That said, there will always be defections when a coaching change is made. I was concerned throughout this process about salvaging the recruiting class. Thankfully, the other four recruits appear to still be committed. It would have been nice to have Mikaela Gardner as part of this recruiting class, but these kids have to make decisions based on what they feel is best for them.
I totally agree with this. That said, there will always be defections when a coaching change is made. I was concerned throughout this process about salvaging the recruiting class. Thankfully, the other four recruits appear to still be committed. It would have been nice to have Mikaela Gardner as part of this recruiting class, but these kids have to make decisions based on what they feel is best for them.
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If I was a recruit I'd be more excited about playing for a former Olympian of her caliber than the arrogant creep they smartly let go.
If I was a recruit I'd be more excited about playing for a former Olympian of her caliber than the arrogant creep they smartly let go.
Puckdrop14
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Agree and can't understand why a committed recruit would not wait and see who the new coach would be before pulling the plug unless she had her eye on something else to begin with. I have to agree with Pokechecker that in this case, the team is likely better off without her. The team is blessed with top recruits on the back end and one less will not make much of a difference. Maybe that is what scared her off. In any case, she is a good player and will do well but it will not be in a Buckeye jersey.
Agree and can't understand why a committed recruit would not wait and see who the new coach would be before pulling the plug unless she had her eye on something else to begin with. I have to agree with Pokechecker that in this case, the team is likely better off without her. The team is blessed with top recruits on the back end and one less will not make much of a difference. Maybe that is what scared her off. In any case, she is a good player and will do well but it will not be in a Buckeye jersey.
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In fairness to this recruit, sometimes the hiring process takes a long time and when you're the one waiting the unknown can be a bit scary so finding an alternative where everything and everyone is in place is a more comforting outlook. I don't blame and can fully respect anyone that changes their minds in a case like this. I wish her the best wherever she has chosen to go.
In fairness to this recruit, sometimes the hiring process takes a long time and when you're the one waiting the unknown can be a bit scary so finding an alternative where everything and everyone is in place is a more comforting outlook. I don't blame and can fully respect anyone that changes their minds in a case like this. I wish her the best wherever she has chosen to go.
pokechecker
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the statement was a recruit went elsewhere because the coach was canned
that is quite different than going for other reasons, obviously she should go where ever she thinks best
but if its only because of a coaching change, and in particular THIS coaching change, it was for the wrong reasons
the statement was a recruit went elsewhere because the coach was canned
that is quite different than going for other reasons, obviously she should go where ever she thinks best
but if its only because of a coaching change, and in particular THIS coaching change, it was for the wrong reasons
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Yeah, this one is definitely a head-scratcher. Maybe Coach Nate promised her something that Coach Jenny wasn't going to deliver on. Puckdrop14 mentioned something that I thought of (numbers crunch). We have six defensemen coming back from the current roster and there were two others in this recruiting class. With Gardner, that would have been nine defensemen going for six spots. OTOH, the great players are not afraid of a little competition.
Yeah, this one is definitely a head-scratcher. Maybe Coach Nate promised her something that Coach Jenny wasn't going to deliver on. Puckdrop14 mentioned something that I thought of (numbers crunch). We have six defensemen coming back from the current roster and there were two others in this recruiting class. With Gardner, that would have been nine defensemen going for six spots. OTOH, the great players are not afraid of a little competition.
96IllinoisDad
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Or maybe someone gave her a better opportunity. Or maybe she changed her mind about the school. Etc. who knows. The reality is when coaches leave players reevaluate. A new coach's first job is to recruit their current players and then recruits. The longer you wait the more you risk losing kids. Just a fact and not unique to OSU as we will see....
HockeyEast33
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Or maybe, just maybe, she committed between her freshman and sophomore years in HS (nearly 3 years ago as noted earlier) when most kids don't really know what they want in college and felt an obligation to fulfill her obligation to OSU. And then she became a national team U-18 player and could have more options but continued to fulfill her obligation to OSU. And just maybe after Handrahan resigned, some other school(s) contacted her (not directly of course, but through a representative) and she saw a different and better future elsewhere because she might actually have a better insight into what she wanted in college as a near graduate rather than as a 14 year old. Naaahhhhhhh..... all 14 year old rising high school sophomores know exactly what they want and should lock into a college and stay with the commitment regardless of what happens there. My bad.
Or maybe, just maybe, she committed between her freshman and sophomore years in HS (nearly 3 years ago as noted earlier) when most kids don't really know what they want in college and felt an obligation to fulfill her obligation to OSU. And then she became a national team U-18 player and could have more options but continued to fulfill her obligation to OSU. And just maybe after Handrahan resigned, some other school(s) contacted her (not directly of course, but through a representative) and she saw a different and better future elsewhere because she might actually have a better insight into what she wanted in college as a near graduate rather than as a 14 year old. Naaahhhhhhh..... all 14 year old rising high school sophomores know exactly what they want and should lock into a college and stay with the commitment regardless of what happens there. My bad.
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It will be interesting to see where she ends up. This is exactly why I became concerned with how long Ohio State was taking to bring in a new coach. You're right, this certainly isn't unique to OSU. When a program changes coaches, invariably, some recruits decide to go elsewhere. At this point, I am thankful that we didn't lose the entire class.
It will be interesting to see where she ends up. This is exactly why I became concerned with how long Ohio State was taking to bring in a new coach. You're right, this certainly isn't unique to OSU. When a program changes coaches, invariably, some recruits decide to go elsewhere. At this point, I am thankful that we didn't lose the entire class.
Puckdrop14
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Or maybe the Wisconsin coaches poached her (Nah, they would be way too ethical for that)
It would be disappointing if OSU gave the player her release before the Potter hiring. Maybe that didn't happen but the timing seems off.
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LOL, I am not going to speculate on that, but she had signed a letter of intent to come to Ohio State. It wasn't just a verbal commitment/obligation as some are contending. Ohio State did the right thing letting her out of it. She is obviously a gifted defenseman and will have a great career at Wisconsin, if that is where she is going. We still have our other four recruits coming in and I am sure Jenny Potter will be able to recruit great players to come here.
http://www.ohiostatebuckeyes.com/sports/w-hockey/spec-rel/122214aac.html
Or maybe the Wisconsin coaches poached her (Nah, they would be way too ethical for that
LOL, I am not going to speculate on that, but she had signed a letter of intent to come to Ohio State. It wasn't just a verbal commitment/obligation as some are contending. Ohio State did the right thing letting her out of it. She is obviously a gifted defenseman and will have a great career at Wisconsin, if that is where she is going. We still have our other four recruits coming in and I am sure Jenny Potter will be able to recruit great players to come here.
http://www.ohiostatebuckeyes.com/sports/w-hockey/spec-rel/122214aac.html
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I'm going to take the other side of this. Universities are a lot less unique than people associated with them often like to think, at least at the undergraduate level. And a lot of the things that do make one place better than another for an individual student, like specific professors or other students you get to know, are unknowable at the time the choice is made. Given the limited information that is available to prospective students, there really isn't any way to pick the right school. Even with so little to go on, most people end up satisfied with the school they went to, suggesting that the decision isn't as fraught with importance as most families end up feeling like it is.
You should certainly have an idea of what kind of university you want to attend. You should now whether you want to go to a large or a small school. You should know whether you want to go to a big city, a decent sized university town, or someplace in a small town far away from the city. You should make sure that the place offers a program in the things you might be interested in, as well as a few others in case it turns out you were wrong. You should know whether you want to stay close to home or go somewhere far away. Within these and a few other parameters, though, there are going to be multiple places that fit your needs. How you choose among the various places that do is going to depend upon numerous small things that are real but also far from indispensable in most cases.
Given all that, choosing based upon a coach isn't a terrible idea. If you're a varsity athlete, your coach is going to play a huge role in the quality of your university experience, almost certainly larger than anyone else who you meet during the selection process. If you don't like your coach and playing for him or her is miserable it can ruin a lot more than just the hockey. Yes, coaches come and go, but at least you know something. If the coach you committed to leaves and you are fortunate to have other hockey options, it makes sense to look into them.
I'm going to take the other side of this. Universities are a lot less unique than people associated with them often like to think, at least at the undergraduate level. And a lot of the things that do make one place better than another for an individual student, like specific professors or other students you get to know, are unknowable at the time the choice is made. Given the limited information that is available to prospective students, there really isn't any way to pick the right school. Even with so little to go on, most people end up satisfied with the school they went to, suggesting that the decision isn't as fraught with importance as most families end up feeling like it is.
You should certainly have an idea of what kind of university you want to attend. You should now whether you want to go to a large or a small school. You should know whether you want to go to a big city, a decent sized university town, or someplace in a small town far away from the city. You should make sure that the place offers a program in the things you might be interested in, as well as a few others in case it turns out you were wrong. You should know whether you want to stay close to home or go somewhere far away. Within these and a few other parameters, though, there are going to be multiple places that fit your needs. How you choose among the various places that do is going to depend upon numerous small things that are real but also far from indispensable in most cases.
Given all that, choosing based upon a coach isn't a terrible idea. If you're a varsity athlete, your coach is going to play a huge role in the quality of your university experience, almost certainly larger than anyone else who you meet during the selection process. If you don't like your coach and playing for him or her is miserable it can ruin a lot more than just the hockey. Yes, coaches come and go, but at least you know something. If the coach you committed to leaves and you are fortunate to have other hockey options, it makes sense to look into them.
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I'm not sure about the chronology of all this (who knows), but if she doesn't want to be here, there's no point in not releasing her from her LOI. It's tough to lose a great recruit like Gardner, but it happens when there are coaching changes.
I'm not sure about the chronology of all this (who knows), but if she doesn't want to be here, there's no point in not releasing her from her LOI. It's tough to lose a great recruit like Gardner, but it happens when there are coaching changes.