Kepler
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Re: Obama XXI: Kenyan Muslins are ruining this country!
Mr. Zappa had some fine words on the subject too:
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Re: Obama XXI: Kenyan Muslins are ruining this country!
Thanks for the correction. Perhaps I was thinking of this Zappa offering: Charlotte the harlot, the girl we adore, the pride of the prairie, the cowpunchers' wh*re.
Really, this effort to turn these bums into the victims of the Chicago "Police Riot" of '68 (a term coined by former Illinois governor Otto Kerner, who, after being appointed to the federal bench resigned following his conviction for corruption (to avoid certain impeachment) and was sent to federal prison) is ludicrous.
No guns, no billyclubs, no rubber bullets, no bean bags, no gas, no water cannon. Just a few ugly, big mouthed left wing sluts spritzed with pepper spray. Not a pleasant experience, to be sure. And possibly not justified, but it could have been way worse.
Thanks for the correction. Perhaps I was thinking of this Zappa offering: Charlotte the harlot, the girl we adore, the pride of the prairie, the cowpunchers' wh*re.
Really, this effort to turn these bums into the victims of the Chicago "Police Riot" of '68 (a term coined by former Illinois governor Otto Kerner, who, after being appointed to the federal bench resigned following his conviction for corruption (to avoid certain impeachment) and was sent to federal prison) is ludicrous.
No guns, no billyclubs, no rubber bullets, no bean bags, no gas, no water cannon. Just a few ugly, big mouthed left wing sluts spritzed with pepper spray. Not a pleasant experience, to be sure. And possibly not justified, but it could have been way worse.
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Re: Obama XXI: Kenyan Muslins are ruining this country!
If people want to be idiots let them be idiots. They are no more stupid than the morons who wear tea bags on their hats and pretend like they think the government is destroying their life. (which is exactly what we saw during the Tea Party nonsense) Bad times bring out the loons en masse, nothing they do is going to change anything and if they were offered 1/10th of the things they whine about wanting they would end their protest so fast O'Reilly wouldnt have time to finish his outrage
My life sucks too, more than most people realize or I talk about. Whining about it on Wall Street isnt going to make things better, and it wont even make me FEEL better so it is utterly pointless. They arent really causing any problems (the bridge thing seems like a Darwin situation coming on fast which I am always in support of
) and my guess is the people they are railing against find this all quite hilarious.
I guess I just look on them and shake my head. I feel bad for the girl who got pepper sprayed (and the Daily Show did a hilarious skit about that) but overall I think they would be better off buying a bagel and just calming the F down. They are not oppressed and if you choose to be disobedient you have to expect blowback. This doesnt make you a martyr, it makes you a moron
If people want to be idiots let them be idiots. They are no more stupid than the morons who wear tea bags on their hats and pretend like they think the government is destroying their life. (which is exactly what we saw during the Tea Party nonsense) Bad times bring out the loons en masse, nothing they do is going to change anything and if they were offered 1/10th of the things they whine about wanting they would end their protest so fast O'Reilly wouldnt have time to finish his outrage
My life sucks too, more than most people realize or I talk about. Whining about it on Wall Street isnt going to make things better, and it wont even make me FEEL better so it is utterly pointless. They arent really causing any problems (the bridge thing seems like a Darwin situation coming on fast which I am always in support of
) and my guess is the people they are railing against find this all quite hilarious.I guess I just look on them and shake my head. I feel bad for the girl who got pepper sprayed (and the Daily Show did a hilarious skit about that) but overall I think they would be better off buying a bagel and just calming the F down. They are not oppressed and if you choose to be disobedient you have to expect blowback. This doesnt make you a martyr, it makes you a moron
dxmnkd316
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Re: Obama XXI: Kenyan Muslins are ruining this country!
*thumbs up*
If people want to be idiots let them be idiots. They are no more stupid than the morons who wear tea bags on their hats and pretend like they think the government is destroying their life. (which is exactly what we saw during the Tea Party nonsense) Bad times bring out the loons en masse, nothing they do is going to change anything and if they were offered 1/10th of the things they whine about wanting they would end their protest so fast O'Reilly wouldnt have time to finish his outrage
My life sucks too, more than most people realize or I talk about. Whining about it on Wall Street isnt going to make things better, and it wont even make me FEEL better so it is utterly pointless. They arent really causing any problems (the bridge thing seems like a Darwin situation coming on fast which I am always in support of
I guess I just look on them and shake my head. I feel bad for the girl who got pepper sprayed (and the Daily Show did a hilarious skit about that) but overall I think they would be better off buying a bagel and just calming the F down. They are not oppressed and if you choose to be disobedient you have to expect blowback. This doesnt make you a martyr, it makes you a moron
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Re: Obama XXI: Kenyan Muslins are ruining this country!
Exactly so. When confronted by anti-war demonstrators (as he always was) Governor Wallace used to say (paraphrasing): "You like four letter words? I've got a couple of four letter words for you: w-o-r-k and w-a-s-h."
If people want to be idiots let them be idiots. They are no more stupid than the morons who wear tea bags on their hats and pretend like they think the government is destroying their life. (which is exactly what we saw during the Tea Party nonsense) Bad times bring out the loons en masse, nothing they do is going to change anything and if they were offered 1/10th of the things they whine about wanting they would end their protest so fast O'Reilly wouldnt have time to finish his outrage
My life sucks too, more than most people realize or I talk about. Whining about it on Wall Street isnt going to make things better, and it wont even make me FEEL better so it is utterly pointless. They arent really causing any problems (the bridge thing seems like a Darwin situation coming on fast which I am always in support of
I guess I just look on them and shake my head. I feel bad for the girl who got pepper sprayed (and the Daily Show did a hilarious skit about that) but overall I think they would be better off buying a bagel and just calming the F down. They are not oppressed and if you choose to be disobedient you have to expect blowback. This doesnt make you a martyr, it makes you a moron
Exactly so. When confronted by anti-war demonstrators (as he always was) Governor Wallace used to say (paraphrasing): "You like four letter words? I've got a couple of four letter words for you: w-o-r-k and w-a-s-h."
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Re: Obama XXI: Kenyan Muslins are ruining this country!
You'll never confuse me for a neo-con, but you can't see anything in that video (even during the stupid Oliver Stone-ish breakdown) that shows what happened until after the police were already engaging the protesters. So how can the MSNBC guy aver the police action was wrong? I admint I stopped watching about 4 minutes in because I got sick of waiting for a promised smoking gun that never materialized.
You'll never confuse me for a neo-con, but you can't see anything in that video (even during the stupid Oliver Stone-ish breakdown) that shows what happened until after the police were already engaging the protesters. So how can the MSNBC guy aver the police action was wrong? I admint I stopped watching about 4 minutes in because I got sick of waiting for a promised smoking gun that never materialized.
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Re: Obama XXI: Kenyan Muslins are ruining this country!
The position of the piece is that its not part of police code to pepper spray someone unless its part of apprehending a suspect. In other words, you can't just spray folks and that appears to have been done here.
The position of the piece is that its not part of police code to pepper spray someone unless its part of apprehending a suspect. In other words, you can't just spray folks and that appears to have been done here.
Re: Obama XXI: Kenyan Muslins are ruining this country!
Let me just toss this out there: turns out Mr. "moderate" Deadmeat in addition to his pals Bill Ayers and his leftwing b*tch of a wife, was also pretty close to the New Black Panther Party. Allowing for Breitbart's obvious political bias, and the possibility the images have been manipulated, there are some legitimate questions here: like why did Deadmeat's department of justice pass on charging these nancyboys for their intimidation of voters? And where, exactly, does Deadmeat depart from their vicious, violent, racist agenda?
http://biggovernment.com/abreitbart...lack-panther-party-on-campaign-trail-in-2007/
Let me just toss this out there: turns out Mr. "moderate" Deadmeat in addition to his pals Bill Ayers and his leftwing b*tch of a wife, was also pretty close to the New Black Panther Party. Allowing for Breitbart's obvious political bias, and the possibility the images have been manipulated, there are some legitimate questions here: like why did Deadmeat's department of justice pass on charging these nancyboys for their intimidation of voters? And where, exactly, does Deadmeat depart from their vicious, violent, racist agenda?
http://biggovernment.com/abreitbart...lack-panther-party-on-campaign-trail-in-2007/
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Re: Obama XXI: Kenyan Muslins are ruining this country!
Looks like this dude has a history.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/09/...p-accused-of-abusing-bush-protesters-in-2004/
Looks like this dude has a history.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/09/...p-accused-of-abusing-bush-protesters-in-2004/
Re: Obama XXI: Kenyan Muslins are ruining this country!
Watched prohibition on PBS and you had some crazy antics to get some mainstream media attention. Like this lady (and her followers) taking a hatchet to saloons in the 1850's.
Clearly every movement has some idiots and militants.
Watched prohibition on PBS and you had some crazy antics to get some mainstream media attention. Like this lady (and her followers) taking a hatchet to saloons in the 1850's.
Clearly every movement has some idiots and militants.
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Re: Obama XXI: Kenyan Muslins are ruining this country!
Come on...Anthony Bologna...we all know his name is Tony Baloney. (TM - TDS)
Come on...Anthony Bologna...we all know his name is Tony Baloney. (TM - TDS)
Re: Obama XXI: Kenyan Muslins are ruining this country!
As we all know, "charges" from libtard a*sholes rioting in the street are always truthful, accurate and fair. How about we get the other side, before we string up a cop? And, honey, you bring your "phucking" sun glasses and whatever else you want to wear. They'll just club you senseless, and you'll deserve it.
Looks like this dude has a history.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/09/...p-accused-of-abusing-bush-protesters-in-2004/
As we all know, "charges" from libtard a*sholes rioting in the street are always truthful, accurate and fair. How about we get the other side, before we string up a cop? And, honey, you bring your "phucking" sun glasses and whatever else you want to wear. They'll just club you senseless, and you'll deserve it.
Re: Obama XXI: Kenyan Muslins are ruining this country!
Was thinking about this. I think the MSNBC piece has merit as it seems the cop was operating out of bounds.
Yet, I don't get this protest. If its targeting wall street, it makes no sense. Seems to me that there are two gripes here.
First, that there is a cozy relationship between wall street and the government. This is probably true...but why blame wall street. They're going to see if they can influence the government. The government is not ablidged to take it...but rather than listen to the people they listen to wall street. In any case, this is not wall street's fault, but rather the govt.
Second, wall street is operating within the law. If the law should be changed, that's not wall streets fault...but rather the government. They make laws...and if wall street breaks them, the govt is the one that prosecutes.
So protesting on wall street makes no sense to me when any transgression (real or imagined) is a govt deal.
Was thinking about this. I think the MSNBC piece has merit as it seems the cop was operating out of bounds.
Yet, I don't get this protest. If its targeting wall street, it makes no sense. Seems to me that there are two gripes here.
First, that there is a cozy relationship between wall street and the government. This is probably true...but why blame wall street. They're going to see if they can influence the government. The government is not ablidged to take it...but rather than listen to the people they listen to wall street. In any case, this is not wall street's fault, but rather the govt.
Second, wall street is operating within the law. If the law should be changed, that's not wall streets fault...but rather the government. They make laws...and if wall street breaks them, the govt is the one that prosecutes.
So protesting on wall street makes no sense to me when any transgression (real or imagined) is a govt deal.
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Re: Obama XXI: Kenyan Muslins are ruining this country!
They chose Wall Street because of the symbolism. That said, their "protest" has seemed more like a street fair until recently.
They chose Wall Street because of the symbolism. That said, their "protest" has seemed more like a street fair until recently.
XYZ
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Re: Obama XXI: Kenyan Muslins are ruining this country!
I wonder if these were all the same people who protested the most recent RNC and DNC. You know, the ones who show up with their lawyer's number written on their arm in Sharpie because they are planning on getting arrested so they can then write letters to the paper crying about the supposed brutality? Yeah, them.
I wonder if these were all the same people who protested the most recent RNC and DNC. You know, the ones who show up with their lawyer's number written on their arm in Sharpie because they are planning on getting arrested so they can then write letters to the paper crying about the supposed brutality? Yeah, them.
Re: Obama XXI: Kenyan Muslins are ruining this country!
It has to be somebody's fault. And they certainly aren't going to blame themselves, or people like them.
It has to be somebody's fault. And they certainly aren't going to blame themselves, or people like them.
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
Re: Obama XXI: Kenyan Muslins are ruining this country!
The WTO protesters seemed to be more international (and more violent). The convention protesters seemed to be more specifically tied to particular party offshoots (greens against the Dems, what became the TP against the GOP). I think these folks are different. Some are college kids looking for a way get back at Daddy, sure, but there are actual humans, too.
Re: Obama XXI: Kenyan Muslins are ruining this country!
So, more like the same ones protesting the tuition hikes in London, then.
XYZ
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Re: Obama XXI: Kenyan Muslins are ruining this country!
I was in the middle of the chaos here shooting photos during the RNC nonsense and I don't think the trouble makers could be qualified as such. It wasn't your usual band of Green Party kids, but rather the more anarchist types. They said so themselves. The SDS bunch was mildly violent, but of the real core group of troublemakers the only governing name I was able to discern was the "Nomadical Radicals". After the fact I went and found as much video as I could from the DNC trouble and saw many of the same people I saw here in St. Paul. In this current situation, I do agree that there's the more legit crowd (just as there were plenty of peaceful run-of-the-mill anti-war types here in St. Paul), but I'd wager there's also a faction of that hyper fringe element that we've seen in other places. I haven't had time, but for the hell of it I do want to check out some of the video as I bet I can find at least a few of the same people that were in Denver and St. Paul.
As an aside, I'm pretty sure this guy wanted to kill me for some reason
I was in the middle of the chaos here shooting photos during the RNC nonsense and I don't think the trouble makers could be qualified as such. It wasn't your usual band of Green Party kids, but rather the more anarchist types. They said so themselves. The SDS bunch was mildly violent, but of the real core group of troublemakers the only governing name I was able to discern was the "Nomadical Radicals". After the fact I went and found as much video as I could from the DNC trouble and saw many of the same people I saw here in St. Paul. In this current situation, I do agree that there's the more legit crowd (just as there were plenty of peaceful run-of-the-mill anti-war types here in St. Paul), but I'd wager there's also a faction of that hyper fringe element that we've seen in other places. I haven't had time, but for the hell of it I do want to check out some of the video as I bet I can find at least a few of the same people that were in Denver and St. Paul.
As an aside, I'm pretty sure this guy wanted to kill me for some reason
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
Re: Obama XXI: Kenyan Muslins are ruining this country!
A problem with these protests, no matter who it is (environmentalists, Tea Partiers, Wall Street) is the media loves to focus on the freaks. That's primarily because funny or outrageous images drive ratings, which is all very well. But when the protest has a class dimension (as Occupy Wall Street does) it's not a huge leap to think some of that is a deliberate strategy by elites to undermine public identification with the protesters.
I don't know anything about them. (I actually didn't know about it -- I assume it's part of the austerity measures?)
A problem with these protests, no matter who it is (environmentalists, Tea Partiers, Wall Street) is the media loves to focus on the freaks. That's primarily because funny or outrageous images drive ratings, which is all very well. But when the protest has a class dimension (as Occupy Wall Street does) it's not a huge leap to think some of that is a deliberate strategy by elites to undermine public identification with the protesters.
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