Obama XVI: Muslin curtains in the White House!!!

[walrus]

Re: Obama XVI: Muslin curtains in the White House!!!

While I don't necessarily disagree, it does take something very special to tell the North Vietnamese what they can do with their "early out." I wouldn't have lasted 5 hours as a POW, let alone 5 years. And I'd rat out my mother to get out.

Nobody doubts McCains toughness

 

[DrDemento]

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Independents and young voters will be the key for him. We know what African American voters are going to do. Will independents vote for him in huge numbers like '08? Certainly the significance of his race will be greatly diminished the second time around. Younger voters (who traditionally have very low turnouts) flocked to the polls, IMO, to be "part of history." They won't be as motivated on that score next time.

O.P.-I am not so sure-I am beginning to think you CAN fool some of the people all of the time!

 

[5mn_Major]

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Wait, I completely missed this. What happened?

Yet another misrepresentation.

Rauf did not threaten New York regarding the center. He was concerned about the potential of Muslim conservative extremist reaction. Big difference.

 

[Kepler]

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Yet another misrepresentation.

Rauf did not threaten New York regarding the center. He was concerned about the potential of Muslim conservative extremist reaction. Big difference.

There was a very funny TDS send-up of it. Amazing anybody is still trying to Fox it.

 

[geezer]

Re: Obama XVI: Muslin curtains in the White House!!!

you guys hear about this? Apparently even more desperate than anyone knew, the Democrats augmented the Al Franken show by asking some other comedian to come to Washington and testify about the state of his colon. True story. Seems they miscalculated the mass appeal of elected representatives giggling in their hands while watching this show on our time, and it might cost them a few more seats rather than drawing support from whoever this person's fans are (or whatever it was inteded to accomplish).
It's almost unbelievable.

 

[Old Pio]

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What "Imam" Rauf said (I'm paraphrasing) is "If I don't get to build Six Flags over Mecca at GZ, there will be trouble." How is that NOT a threat? It's the old protection racket. This guy's statements, finances, goals and beliefs are a veritable cornucopia of lies, deceptions, half-truths and threats. If this guy is the "moderate" Muslim leader we've been looking for, we're in worse trouble than I thought. There's no way this dude deserves the benefit of the doubt. No way on earth.

Only the deluded and delusional think the location of this facility is anything other than a statement of Islamist triumph.

 

[Old Pio]

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...Bay-rations-detainees-ice-cream-portions.html

I thought we weren't "torturing" prisoners anymore. Oh, the humanity. Somebody call the Hague.

 

[Red Cloud]

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...Bay-rations-detainees-ice-cream-portions.html

I thought we weren't "torturing" prisoners anymore. Oh, the humanity. Somebody call the Hague.

Ask Kepler, he's got them on speed dial.

 

[huskyfan]

Re: Obama XVI: Muslin curtains in the White House!!!

you guys hear about this? Apparently even more desperate than anyone knew, the Democrats augmented the Al Franken show by asking some other comedian to come to Washington and testify about the state of his colon. True story. Seems they miscalculated the mass appeal of elected representatives giggling in their hands while watching this show on our time, and it might cost them a few more seats rather than drawing support from whoever this person's fans are (or whatever it was inteded to accomplish).
It's almost unbelievable.

this is the kind of stuff you can't make up. friggin' unbelievable. talk about fiddling while Rome burns.

 

[solovsfett]

Re: Obama XVI: Muslin curtains in the White House!!!

you guys hear about this? Apparently even more desperate than anyone knew, the Democrats augmented the Al Franken show by asking some other comedian to come to Washington and testify about the state of his colon. True story. Seems they miscalculated the mass appeal of elected representatives giggling in their hands while watching this show on our time, and it might cost them a few more seats rather than drawing support from whoever this person's fans are (or whatever it was inteded to accomplish).
It's almost unbelievable.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1T75jBYeCs

you're talking about Stephen Colbert

 

[Patman]

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starting to hear some really screwball things about health care...

Here's a thought... we know that Obamacare was written to fail... hence why their supporters don't want his name attached to it... its going to go down like a lead anchor... now, I'm wondering if its going to fail spectacularly too fast... and when that happens i wonder what the implication would be. Dems will want this to fail in slow motion... that way they can save the day with their moral imperative... universal health care... but what happens if the industry just collapses under useless mandates. remember, the idea of insurance is not in itself the problem... the problem is the system that it constructed... now, UHC is still worse because it is, at its heart, a limit on personal freedom... UHC is set to specifically ration care as the government (earth God) desires... if you and your doctor agree to something... too bad, government has decided that this is unfair and thus immoral. I'm wondering if it fails too fast that it won't then open up a strange scenario... Dems will be quick to go to UHC... but they won't be divorced from this albatross.... not enough time has passed. They could paint the Republicans on going back to the "old system that didn't work"... but that only goes so far... it doesn't change the arguments. The thing is, while the old system had its problems it was never irredeemable... it was just decided that UHC is more expedient than proper reform and cleaning out the rot... this is the same argument we see with the "Fair Tax"... the system is unfixable so we must destroy it in favor of our new savior.

That being said... does UHC win the day or do we see adults set to work to reform the insurance system in a way that doesn't an insurance business impossible? Things like "taking anybody regardless of condition" and a slew of other things are just not things that work. The simple argument to this would be, "would you put your money into that"? The answer to that is, no... you can't trust the race to the bottom won't bankrupt you. You don't have to be a devil-eyed horned sewer monster to see that. At the same time, people will pine for simplistic arguments... after-all, its easier than actually fixing the system.

So, that being said, for all the broken with the health care system... have we forced ourselves into a situation where health care will never actually be fixed except in the eyes of the politicians and their media? That is to say, only be fixed in the eyes of those who want it to be but not in reality.

 

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

Re: Obama XVI: Muslin curtains in the White House!!!

you guys hear about this? Apparently even more desperate than anyone knew, the Democrats augmented the Al Franken show by asking some other comedian to come to Washington and testify about the state of his colon. True story. Seems they miscalculated the mass appeal of elected representatives giggling in their hands while watching this show on our time, and it might cost them a few more seats rather than drawing support from whoever this person's fans are (or whatever it was inteded to accomplish).
It's almost unbelievable.

this is the kind of stuff you can't make up. friggin' unbelievable. talk about fiddling while Rome burns.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1T75jBYeCs

you're talking about Stephen Colbert

He "testified" for all of five minutes, and paid his own way to be there. A brief waste of time, but not that big of an outrage, considering that Republicans have previously called upon Elmo to "testify" before Congress.

 

[WeWantMore]

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A brief waste of time, but not that big of an outrage, considering that Republicans have previously called upon Elmo to "testify" before Congress.

And the Republicans lost their majority, and the guy who invited Elmo is currently in jail. That went well.

Which is the point I think most people are making about it really, it's not like it was a terrible waste of resources or anything, it's that is such a farking stupid thing for Democrats to do.

 

[Dirty]

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And the Republicans lost their majority, and the guy who invited Elmo is currently in jail. That went well.

Probably because he asked Elmo to come to his office after testifying and gave him wine coolers.

 

[Kepler]

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And the Republicans lost their majority, and the guy who invited Elmo is currently in jail. That went well.

Which is the point I think most people are making about it really, it's not like it was a terrible waste of resources or anything, it's that is such a farking stupid thing for Democrats to do.

The reason to invite celebs to hearings is to generate news cycle interest in a worthy but neglected cause (Elmo testified for increased funding of musical eduction). The immigration debate has many problems, but lack of public involvement is not among them.

 

[pardonme]

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I assume the media still aren't really showing the part where he got out of character a bit and actually made a point:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cu9SSxe5bz0

 

[MadTownSioux]

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Looking forward to The Prez coming to Madison tomorrow for a big political rally.

is because I'll be driving my wife to and from a seminar for her work near there and the traffic will be horrible.

 

[Rover]

Re: Obama XVI: Muslin curtains in the White House!!!

starting to hear some really screwball things about health care...

Here's a thought... we know that Obamacare was written to fail... hence why their supporters don't want his name attached to it... its going to go down like a lead anchor... now, I'm wondering if its going to fail spectacularly too fast... and when that happens i wonder what the implication would be. Dems will want this to fail in slow motion... that way they can save the day with their moral imperative... universal health care... but what happens if the industry just collapses under useless mandates. remember, the idea of insurance is not in itself the problem... the problem is the system that it constructed... now, UHC is still worse because it is, at its heart, a limit on personal freedom... UHC is set to specifically ration care as the government (earth God) desires... if you and your doctor agree to something... too bad, government has decided that this is unfair and thus immoral. I'm wondering if it fails too fast that it won't then open up a strange scenario... Dems will be quick to go to UHC... but they won't be divorced from this albatross.... not enough time has passed. They could paint the Republicans on going back to the "old system that didn't work"... but that only goes so far... it doesn't change the arguments. The thing is, while the old system had its problems it was never irredeemable... it was just decided that UHC is more expedient than proper reform and cleaning out the rot... this is the same argument we see with the "Fair Tax"... the system is unfixable so we must destroy it in favor of our new savior.

That being said... does UHC win the day or do we see adults set to work to reform the insurance system in a way that doesn't an insurance business impossible? Things like "taking anybody regardless of condition" and a slew of other things are just not things that work. The simple argument to this would be, "would you put your money into that"? The answer to that is, no... you can't trust the race to the bottom won't bankrupt you. You don't have to be a devil-eyed horned sewer monster to see that. At the same time, people will pine for simplistic arguments... after-all, its easier than actually fixing the system.

So, that being said, for all the broken with the health care system... have we forced ourselves into a situation where health care will never actually be fixed except in the eyes of the politicians and their media? That is to say, only be fixed in the eyes of those who want it to be but not in reality.

I hope for your sake that you were drunk when you posted this.

 

[WeWantMore]

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Looking forward to The Prez coming to Madison tomorrow for a big political rally.

is because I'll be driving my wife to and from a seminar for her work near there and the traffic will be horrible.

Hey, one of my classes got canceled because of it, so I'm not complaining.

 

[geezer]

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I hope for your sake that you were drunk when you posted this.