New Poll Predictions for 11/30

[PSUChamps2001]

Re: New Poll Predictions for 11/30

The score WAS indicative of what happened on the ice. I was at that game. Were you? Potsdam didn't have a chance in that game. Lots of shots, but Hince was good that night. Meanwhile Plattsburgh took advantage of the little opportunities they had, especially in the first two periods...6 goals on 14 shots. Thats right, took advantage of the little opportunities they had. Sound familiar, dude?

You contradicting yourself...you say the score "WAS indicative of what happened on the ice", which would make it seem Plattsburgh probably dominated every aspect of the play and Potsdam hardly touched the puck as they won by 7 goals, but then you say "Plattsburgh took advantage of the little opportunities they had, especially in the first two periods...6 goals on 14 shots." which would lead one to believe that Potsdam played Plattsburgh tough (if not controlled play) and Plattsburgh had to capitalize on the very few chances that Potsdam gave them....??

So what is it? Plattsburgh dominated play and clearly they were a 7 goal difference team??

Or Plattsburgh took advantage of the "little opportunities they had" and the 7 goal difference was not indicative of the game?

What is it dude....

 

[PSUChamps2001]

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Ummm, wouldn't Emery going public saying, "I know they score the most goals, but we dominated them and we are the better team" be bulletin board material for Oswego? HELLO????

Are you really as dumb as you sound?? Duh of course it would B-board material.... hence why he would never say something public like that...Listen to what he said of Norwich...Plattsburgh had more scoring opportunities, more grade a scoring chances, and controlled the play especially in the third and OT...but you actually think he is going to come out and say they are better then ANY team...DUH....you are dense....

Ask the players if they felt Oswego was the better team.....I bet you would be surprised....

 

[sticksnstones]

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You contradicting yourself...you say the score "WAS indicative of what happened on the ice", which would make it seem Plattsburgh probably dominated every aspect of the play and Potsdam hardly touched the puck as they won by 7 goals, but then you say "Plattsburgh took advantage of the little opportunities they had, especially in the first two periods...6 goals on 14 shots." which would lead one to believe that Potsdam played Plattsburgh tough (if not controlled play) and Plattsburgh had to capitalize on the very few chances that Potsdam gave them....??

So what is it? Plattsburgh dominated play and clearly they were a 7 goal difference team??

Or Plattsburgh took advantage of the "little opportunities they had" and the 7 goal difference was not indicative of the game?

What is it dude....

So you're saying its impossible for Potsdam to not have a chance even though they got more shots at Hince? If you were at the game, it was pretty evident that there wasn't much of a chance Potsdam was going to compete in that game after the first two or three goals. They got their shots, yes, but Hince/Defense kept the puck out. Obviously in the first two periods, like I said, Plattsburgh didn't have many opportunities on the offensive side of the puck. But they scored 6.
Six goals on 14 shots doesn't automatically mean Potsdam played Plattsburgh tough...

 

[PSUChamps2001]

Re: New Poll Predictions for 11/30

So you're saying its impossible for Potsdam to not have a chance even though they got more shots at Hince? If you were at the game, it was pretty evident that there wasn't much of a chance Potsdam was going to compete in that game after the first two or three goals. They got their shots, yes, but Hince/Defense kept the puck out. Obviously in the first two periods, like I said, Plattsburgh didn't have many opportunities on the offensive side of the puck. But they scored 6.
Six goals on 14 shots doesn't automatically mean Potsdam played Plattsburgh tough...

We are not talking about winning...we are talking about being the better team on the ice...you do NOT have to win to be a better team.

Once again I will ask...Just because Morrisville beat Elmira...were they (lil Ponies) the better team on the ice?

 

[sticksnstones]

Re: New Poll Predictions for 11/30

Are you really as dumb as you sound?? Duh of course it would B-board material.... hence why he would never say something public like that...Listen to what he said of Norwich...Plattsburgh had more scoring opportunities, more grade a scoring chances, and controlled the play especially in the third and OT...but you actually think he is going to come out and say they are better then ANY team...DUH....you are dense....

Ask the players if they felt Oswego was the better team.....I bet you would be surprised....

I remember last year on BTB, Emery was talking about the Skidmore game and said that Skidmore was the better team that night. Now, at the end of the season, I don't think anyone would say Skidmore was a better team than Platty, but that night they sure were. I wonder if Skidmore has that on their bulletin board...

 

[sticksnstones]

Re: New Poll Predictions for 11/30

We are not talking about winning...we are talking about being the better team on the ice...you do NOT have to win to be a better team.

Once again I will ask...Just because Morrisville beat Elmira...were they (lil Ponies) the better team on the ice?

If I'm not mistaken, the point of hockey is to score more goals than the other team. "you do NOT have to win to be a better team." Geez...no one is going to be able to ever in your life prove you wrong so I'll stop here...At least it took a few posts before you started verbally attacking me like you like to do.

 

[mazile]

Re: New Poll Predictions for 11/30

If you look past the goalies, another measure of a team's ability is how good of shooters they have. So far this season, Oswego is scoring on about 16% of their chances, while Plattsburgh is scoring on about 13% of their chances. A team might skate faster and pass better, but scoring is an art as well. A slower team with less skating ability can compensate by having better snipers. I think a 3% statistical advantage in this category is pretty large.

 

[PSUChamps2001]

Re: New Poll Predictions for 11/30

If I'm not mistaken, the point of hockey is to score more goals than the other team. "you do NOT have to win to be a better team." Geez...no one is going to be able to ever in your life prove you wrong so I'll stop here...At least it took a few posts before you started verbally attacking me like you like to do.

Sorry its hard to get through to morons like yourself....its not about proving wrong, you are trying to look at one thing and one thing only, a score. The game is not just about the score. The score is not always indicitive of the game...hense like you posted the Potsdam game, Skidmore, Elmira vs Moville, RIT vs Plattsburgh, UWS vs Plattsburgh... I am sure UWS went away from that game in 2001 still believing they were a better team then Plattsburgh...some of us can actually see that and not just look at 5-2....like I said in the last 10 games vs the Tankers there were many games were Plattsburgh was NOT the best team on the ice...If I remember right, many of the Lakers said that themsevles...oh how we forget....

 

[Oldtimehockey]

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Dude no one is disputing the fact KGT played extremely well...and on the flip side Leis let in 4 goals on 13 shots...how many times is goalie going to have that save %? You want to base a "team" off of one thing...goals. Like I've pointed out time and time again.......

Dude!!! Fact.....If our goalie (Sir Crampalot) didn't "let in" 3 late goals last year. We beat you at Platty. **** and moan all you want, Bottom line Oswego got penalized for being off last weekend. THAT is the B.S. And How does St Norbert get no first place votes..... others, Adrian (3) and Norwich (2). How does any of this really make sense. This poll stuff is a joke. The whole point of playing the game is to win (the W). You play the game to win. NOT look better, out shoot, or out skate the other team. If Platty out skates everybody in the world and doesn't "win" a game are they still #1??? Just let it go. We'll see where it all stands come the end of Feb.

 

[sticksnstones]

Re: New Poll Predictions for 11/30

Sorry its hard to get through to morons like yourself....

Nick Petriello called, he wants you to head back to Buffalo and dispose of the dirty diapers you left in the stands...

 

[norm1909]

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Oh, give 'em some credit, norm. While they are tied on points in the SUNYAC, were this to be the end of the regular season and time for tournament seedings, Plattsburgh WOULD be behind the Lakers based on H2H.

Well, it is not the end of the season so currently they are tied (in points) and in the poll. And I did give them credit for being better than Plattsburgh, even if only for just one day. Additionally, kudos to the Lakers, they did it - "It is the first time since October 15, 2007 that Oswego State has been ranked first in the country." furthermore, it is great having two SUNYAC teams leading the polls

 

[sticksnstones]

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Well, it is not the end of the season so currently they are tied (in points) and in the poll. And I did give them credit for being better than Plattsburgh, even if only for just one day. Additionally, kudos to the Lakers, they did it - "It is the first time since October 15, 2007 that Oswego State has been ranked first in the country." furthermore, it is great having two SUNYAC teams leading the polls

I agree wholeheartedly with this. All we can do is just wait till the next matchup...see how that goes. Wait till the SUNYAC tourney, see how that goes. As a Plattsburgh fan, I sure hope the Cards deliver the W. I'll be there

 

[Oldtimehockey]

Re: New Poll Predictions for 11/30

Well, it is not the end of the season so currently they are tied (in points) and in the poll. And I did give them credit for being better than Plattsburgh, even if only for just one day. Additionally, kudos to the Lakers, they did it - "It is the first time since October 15, 2007 that Oswego State has been ranked first in the country." furthermore, it is great having two SUNYAC teams leading the polls

Now you're talking the way it is!!!! SUNYAC is a force to be reckoned with every year. These two teams happen to be at or very near the top every year. Hat's off to both teams on a great first 1/3 of a season. Finish the semester strong and see how it all falls out. MAYBE, Mo'ville continues to get better and STUNS the country and get's an at large bid. THAT would be very cool for SUNYAC. Doubtful.....But that is why the KID'S play the game!!!

DROP THE PUCK AND PLAY HOCKEY!!!!!!!

That's what we all crave!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[93GreatLaker]

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Remy and Norm,
Fine, you have me convinced. Plattsburgh is better than Oswego even though neither of you have offered any substance with your claim. The game means nothing as obviously Plattsburgh had an off night and several of their top players were missing. While Oswego sits atop the SUNYAC I know it must be a misprint, as that spot is rightfully reserved for the Cardinals.

For the record, I think Plattsburgh may be the better team, however to this point in the season, they have not yet earned the nod over Oswego. Oswego has a better record than Plattsburgh. Oswego has played the majority of their conference games on the road, and has not lost, and would have home ice advantage in the SUNY playoffs. And last but not least Oswego beat Plattsburgh in Plattsburgh. If the roles were reversed I would have no problem putting the Cardinals at #1.

And Remy, today is the first I have chimed in on the topic. It makes no difference to me, but I have had enough of your lame excuses of young goaltenders and missing players. And any other travesty that has happened to your beloved Cardinals on that night. We all know Plattsburgh would have won if Overtime were extended against the Cadets, and that Norwich was lucky to survive. By the way, where is the Primelink trophy? That's right, its still in Vermont.

 

[PSUChamps2001]

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Now you're talking the way it is!!!! SUNYAC is a force to be reckoned with every year. These two teams happen to be at or very near the top every year. Hat's off to both teams on a great first 1/3 of a season. Finish the semester strong and see how it all falls out. MAYBE, Mo'ville continues to get better and STUNS the country and get's an at large bid. THAT would be very cool for SUNYAC. Doubtful.....But that is why the KID'S play the game!!!

DROP THE PUCK AND PLAY HOCKEY!!!!!!!

That's what we all crave!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Not going to dissagree with this one bit, the top two teams in the league are some of the most elite teams in the country...and the rest of the leauge can play spoiler to anyone...

 

[PSUChamps2001]

Re: New Poll Predictions for 11/30

Remy and Norm,
Fine, you have me convinced. Plattsburgh is better than Oswego even though neither of you have offered any substance with your claim.

The fact Oswego was outplayed and out shot. Watch the game. It wasn't close. Oswego jumped on the few opportunities they got. And as I put deserved the win, that doesn't mean you are a better team...as I've said, a better team on the scoreboard yes (and thats all you got is a score)

And last but not least Oswego beat Plattsburgh in Plattsburgh.

Elmira lost to Morrisville = Elmira<Morrisville??
OSU tied Morrisville .... OSU=Morrisville??

And Remy, today is the first I have chimed in on the topic. It makes no difference to me, but I have had enough of your lame excuses of young goaltenders and missing players. And any other travesty that has happened to your beloved Cardinals on that night. We all know Plattsburgh would have won if Overtime were extended against the Cadets, and that Norwich was lucky to survive. By the way, where is the Primelink trophy? That's right, its still in Vermont.

There is no travesty...It was a great game that ended in a tie. They won on an awesome shootout, that's great. I think I said congrats to Norwich?? Ask Norwich how Plattsburgh was playing in the third and OT, I'm sure they are glad it ended after 5 minutes....I actually was planning on Norwich scoring in OT after how much pressure Plattsburgh was putting on.....Thanks tho...

You say I have no substance, but I believe a young goaltender and missing 1/4 of your team including a top 5 forward and your best defender, and arguably 2 of the top recruits is pretty substantial. Not that you Lakers have ever had excuses...but we don't need to waste the bandwidth of USCHO with all of those....

 

[one_to7]

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If you look past the goalies, another measure of a team's ability is how good of shooters they have. So far this season, Oswego is scoring on about 16% of their chances, while Plattsburgh is scoring on about 13% of their chances. A team might skate faster and pass better, but scoring is an art as well. A slower team with less skating ability can compensate by having better snipers. I think a 3% statistical advantage in this category is pretty large.

Chances or shots? There's a large difference.

 

[bakdraft21]

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lol.......this is all funny stuff but the bottom line in any game is to win...ok and have fun, winning is more fun, I never had more fun losing.....which would you rather do out shoot a team or outscore a team......like I said winning is more fun ;-)))))....lets hope the troops get back home safely.....

 

[Ozz]

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The fact Oswego was outplayed and out shot. Watch the game. It wasn't close. Oswego jumped on the few opportunities they got. And as I put deserved the win, that doesn't mean you are a better team...as I've said, a better team on the scoreboard yes (and thats all you got is a score)

As an Oswego fan, it does pain to say that Platty did outplay Oswego for the majority of that game. the first period was pretty even. Only difference was that KGT made the saves whereas Oswego found a way to get it past Leis. The second period was complete domination by the Cardinals. I felt like I was watching a DI team against a DIII team for a while. The game completely changed with less than a second left in the period when Oswego got the GWG. If that goal doesn't go in, it could have easily been 5-2 Platty. That goal made both teams forget about how dominant Platty was that period. It also forced Platty to pinch their D-men in the 3rd period, which allowed Platty to control much of the play in the 3rd, but also cost them the 4th Oswego goal in the 2 on 1 (which was a pretty pass too).

Hockey is an odd sport in that a team can control much of the game and still come out on the wrong end of it. During the infamous 1-9-1 streak, there have been games that Oswego has outplayed Platty and stlll lost. It happens!

Rather than arguing about th #1 ranking in the poll, we should be celebrating the fact that 2 SUNYAC teams are on top, regardless of order. Let's hope each win out unil their meeting at Campus Center!

 

[PSUChamps2001]

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LOOK OUT!!! MARTY BRODEUR SAID "I CAN'T WAIT TO GET THE CHANCE TO GET BACK AT THEM (CANUCKS) WHEN WE ARE NOT SO SHORTHANDED"