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LSSU Hockey 2012-2013

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Truth Squad has the same right to post as does everyone else. if you don't like what he says,simply don't read him. This is an open hockey thread and it's nothing more than that.
 
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I did not mean to imply that Saturday was his first on a pair of skates this season. It would be absurd to think he wasn't on the ice in some fashion because he knew his eligibilty issues were going to get fixed. What I did mean to imply is that there is a huge difference between practice and game shape. Ravn is in game shape, Murdoch isn't. Again, I'm not faulting him at all. I have no doubt he gave 110%.

I don't know if the Roque-Ravn feud rumors are true or false. I just don't. But alot of the decisions being made more recently just seem to add fuel to the fire. If there is, so be it. Happens all the time in sports. But at a time when KK is down and out for a bit, the team doesn't deserve to be punished. Again, I hope that is not the case.
He has practiced with the team as much as Ravn has. He just wasn't able to play in the games. And he played fairly decently. I would say that he was no less ready than was Ravn.
 
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I did not mean to imply that Saturday was his first on a pair of skates this season. It would be absurd to think he wasn't on the ice in some fashion because he knew his eligibilty issues were going to get fixed. What I did mean to imply is that there is a huge difference between practice and game shape. Ravn is in game shape, Murdoch isn't. Again, I'm not faulting him at all. I have no doubt he gave 110%.

I don't know if the Roque-Ravn feud rumors are true or false. I just don't. But alot of the decisions being made more recently just seem to add fuel to the fire. If there is, so be it. Happens all the time in sports. But at a time when KK is down and out for a bit, the team doesn't deserve to be punished. Again, I hope that is not the case.
I don't think that "feud" is the right word, in the sense of any verbal sparring between them, but I do think Ravn has been jerked around by Roque.

We should get some kind of update on Kapalka during this evening's Laker Hockey Show. My guess is that he won't play this weekend. When he injured his other shoulder against MSU two seasons ago, he was able to pop it back in and go back in the game. This time he evidently wasn't able to do that which could mean this injury is more serious.
 
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Truth Squad has the same right to post as does everyone else. if you don't like what he says,simply don't read him. This is an open hockey thread and it's nothing more than that.



Yes I agree he does have a right to post here on this forum but he is a nitwit that just repeats the same old same old every single post. There is a difference between posting relevent information that say adds something to the entertainment on here is one thing. Now he does absolutely nothing of the sort. A quick example I was for years anti Roque but i chose not to harp every single post so Dudsy interepeted that as me being a Roque apologist and stated it a few times on here. I am a Laker fan #1 and i'm still not sold on coach Roque 100% percent but i give him credit his staff are bringing in some real nice talent.

That is why i choose to use my right to just put him on the ignore list. I just don't find him entertaining any more.
 
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Yes I agree he does have a right to post here on this forum but he is a nitwit that just repeats the same old same old every single post. There is a difference between posting relevent information that say adds something to the entertainment on here is one thing. Now he does absolutely nothing of the sort. A quick example I was for years anti Roque but i chose not to harp every single post so Dudsy interepeted that as me being a Roque apologist and stated it a few times on here. I am a Laker fan #1 and i'm still not sold on coach Roque 100% percent but i give him credit his staff are bringing in some real nice talent.

That is why i choose to use my right to just put him on the ignore list. I just don't find him entertaining any more.

Amazing. I have been on this USCHO site since the late 1990's. I never knew there was an "Ignore" feature. Yes, I've seen other posters mention "Ignore," although I don't think they were ignoring me (there were some heated NMU exchanges a few years ago . . . so maybe somebody ignored me, but I don't think so). And I think a few people have told me, "Just ignore him." I took that to mean -- don't respond. BUt then I discovered, this morning, that I can actually ignore everything he says. Its like an early Christmas present. I can now enjoy talking Laker hockey on this message board. Anyhow -- thanks to all of you. I have ignored Truth and all his nonsense, and I feel SOOOO good about it.


Now, as for goalies -- some kids are good enough to play, some aren't. And those decisions are made based on practice performance. Imperfect but thats hockey 101.
 
Amazing. I have been on this USCHO site since the late 1990's. I never knew there was an "Ignore" feature. Yes, I've seen other posters mention "Ignore," although I don't think they were ignoring me (there were some heated NMU exchanges a few years ago . . . so maybe somebody ignored me, but I don't think so). And I think a few people have told me, "Just ignore him." I took that to mean -- don't respond. BUt then I discovered, this morning, that I can actually ignore everything he says. Its like an early Christmas present. I can now enjoy talking Laker hockey on this message board. Anyhow -- thanks to all of you. I have ignored Truth and all his nonsense, and I feel SOOOO good about it.


Now, as for goalies -- some kids are good enough to play, some aren't. And those decisions are made based on practice performance. Imperfect but thats hockey 101.

I understand where you are coming from as far as playing time decisions being based on practice performance but if Ravn truly has been THAT bad in practice for going on 3 years consistently enough to the point that you would only play him in emergency situations, then doesn't it beg the question as to why he is still on the team? If a kid is that horrendously lousy then we are expected to believe that for the past couple of years Roque hasn't been able to find a single soul to replace him as our number 3 goalie?

I realize the Lakers had Mitch Edmondson filling the exact same role previously but he was a goaltender right out of high school with no junior experience- let alone the junior numbers that Ravn had....Let me reiterate that my posts on this subject are not born out of dislike for Roque (my faith in him his actually grown some the past couple of years) nor am I some crazed Ravn friend/family member (I've never met the kid).....This situation just does not add up any way you slice it and that is why it is so intriguing.

The Lakers head north to take on Alaska in what should be a fair litmus test for both teams, Alaska has beaten North Dakota but also lost to Canisius so they have displayed some of the inconsistency the Lakers have shown thus far, hopefully the Lakers can come away with 4 points or more and maybe more importantly, play a good game on a Saturday. A sweep would be ideal to keep pace in the early CCHA race, but depending on the goaltending situation that may be wishful thinking.
 
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I understand where you are coming from as far as playing time decisions being based on practice performance but if Ravn truly has been THAT bad in practice for going on 3 years consistently enough to the point that you would only play him in emergency situations, then doesn't it beg the question as to why he is still on the team? If a kid is that horrendously lousy then we are expected to believe that for the past couple of years Roque hasn't been able to find a single soul to replace him as our number 3 goalie?

I realize the Lakers had Mitch Edmondson filling the exact same role previously but he was a goaltender right out of high school with no junior experience- let alone the junior numbers that Ravn had....Let me reiterate that my posts on this subject are not born out of dislike for Roque (my faith in him his actually grown some the past couple of years) nor am I some crazed Ravn friend/family member (I've never met the kid).....This situation just does not add up any way you slice it and that is why it is so intriguing.

The Lakers head north to take on Alaska in what should be a fair litmus test for both teams, Alaska has beaten North Dakota but also lost to Canisius so they have displayed some of the inconsistency the Lakers have shown thus far, hopefully the Lakers can come away with 4 points or more and maybe more importantly, play a good game on a Saturday. A sweep would be ideal to keep pace in the early CCHA race, but depending on the goaltending situation that may be wishful thinking.
And we had Ciccone (sp?) before Edmondson and didn't he just play AAA midget hockey before coming to LSSU?
 
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Its not unusual to have 3rd string goalies. Every program has them. Sometimes the 3rd stringer played juniors, sometimes not. Usually they are recruited walk-ons. Sometimes they come from nowhere, just from the campus. But there are plenty of 3rd string goalies that were recruited, on scholarship, and can't make the jump -- at least in practice. This appears to be a case of a recruited goalie who landed in a competition situation for a position -- and ended up #3 on the depth chart. And this situation is either (A) totally fabricated, either by this player's girlfriend, or associated; (B) created by the player himself, or (c) a total on-line discussion with no connection to the real world. I tend to think this is a combination of (A) and (C) -- Since every other player on the team appears satisfied with the coach, his promises, his game-plan, and his ice-time distribution. Nobody likes to sit -- but I haven't heard about this kid being a trouble maker or a malcontent, beyond wanting icetime.

So that is my take. Its unusual, to a small point, only because he was mildly hyped when he was recruited to LSSU, and appears to be getting scholarship money. Beyond that, I think there is too much being read into the situation, and too many efforts to paint the coach as a "bad guy" who "breaks his promises" merely because of one player's playing time issues.
 
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Anyone listen to the Laker Hockey show this evening? Any injury updates on Kapalka and Lain?
I only heard part of the show. They are awaiting word on the results of Kapalka's medical tests to see how severe the shoulder injury is. It sounded like Roque is hoping to have him back for the Ferris series, but that depends on the medical results. I didn't hear what they said about Lain.
 
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Thats all I'm going to say on that, because its petty and foolish to verbally spar with good, passionate Laker fans. We all have our opinions and ways we would do things differently if we were at the top, but I'll save the "vitriol" for people like the Truths, who don't really give two bits about LSSU.

Deal. I agree that we can agree to disagree.

There aren't enough Laker fans in the world, just by raw numbers, to be snipping at each other. Besides, there are plenty of perfectly terrible Michigan fans in this world who deserve so much more vitriol.
 
Its not unusual to have 3rd string goalies. Every program has them. Sometimes the 3rd stringer played juniors, sometimes not. Usually they are recruited walk-ons. Sometimes they come from nowhere, just from the campus. But there are plenty of 3rd string goalies that were recruited, on scholarship, and can't make the jump -- at least in practice. This appears to be a case of a recruited goalie who landed in a competition situation for a position -- and ended up #3 on the depth chart. And this situation is either (A) totally fabricated, either by this player's girlfriend, or associated; (B) created by the player himself, or (c) a total on-line discussion with no connection to the real world. I tend to think this is a combination of (A) and (C) -- Since every other player on the team appears satisfied with the coach, his promises, his game-plan, and his ice-time distribution. Nobody likes to sit -- but I haven't heard about this kid being a trouble maker or a malcontent, beyond wanting icetime.

So that is my take. Its unusual, to a small point, only because he was mildly hyped when he was recruited to LSSU, and appears to be getting scholarship money. Beyond that, I think there is too much being read into the situation, and too many efforts to paint the coach as a "bad guy" who "breaks his promises" merely because of one player's playing time issues.

I'm not out for blood here either but this is the type of answer I would associate with a school official.....a textbook " saying a whole lot without really saying anything" answer. Every other player is satisfied with their ice time, game plan, etc.? I was born at night but it was not last night and every hockey team I've ever been around has had guys on lower lines that think they should get more ice time, so how you expect any sensical individual to believe that is beyond me, besides the fact that even if players were unhappy or questioning Roque it's not like it would be widespread....In fact when I was still attending LSSU (which was in the very recent past) there were some very high profile players that "off the record" questioned Roque quite frequently...but I digress, hopefully Kapalka can make a speedy comeback and this becomes an afterthought
 
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The Soo Evening News said today that Kapalka is getting an MRI today and will not be traveling to Alaska with the team. I saw him on Saturday and he was not wearing a brace so it may not be too bad. Feud probably wasn't the correct term, for lack of a better one when I was writing that.

I tore a tendon off my elbow at the beginning of the year and I wore no brace or sling either but had to have surgery . Kapalka may not be wearing anything either but the MRI may show he will be soon.
 
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Amazing. I have been on this USCHO site since the late 1990's. I never knew there was an "Ignore" feature. Yes, I've seen other posters mention "Ignore," although I don't think they were ignoring me (there were some heated NMU exchanges a few years ago . . . so maybe somebody ignored me, but I don't think so). And I think a few people have told me, "Just ignore him." I took that to mean -- don't respond. BUt then I discovered, this morning, that I can actually ignore everything he says. Its like an early Christmas present. I can now enjoy talking Laker hockey on this message board. Anyhow -- thanks to all of you. I have ignored Truth and all his nonsense, and I feel SOOOO good about it.


Now, as for goalies -- some kids are good enough to play, some aren't. And those decisions are made based on practice performance. Imperfect but thats hockey 101.

Nothing gets passed you Laker Blue. You people up there are sharp!!!

I hope Ravn gets his shot this weekend. It would be sad to see a nice young man like him, who put up good numbers like Bill said and others too, and works hard, not to get his chance because of other reasons.
 
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Nothing gets passed you Laker Blue. You people up there are sharp!!!

I hope Ravn gets his shot this weekend. It would be sad to see a nice young man like him, who put up good numbers like Bill said and others too, and works hard, not to get his chance because of other reasons.
Works hard? How many times have you seen him? Ever actually meet the kid?
 
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I'm not out for blood here either but this is the type of answer I would associate with a school official.....a textbook " saying a whole lot without really saying anything" answer. Every other player is satisfied with their ice time, game plan, etc.? I was born at night but it was not last night and every hockey team I've ever been around has had guys on lower lines that think they should get more ice time, so how you expect any sensical individual to believe that is beyond me, besides the fact that even if players were unhappy or questioning Roque it's not like it would be widespread....In fact when I was still attending LSSU (which was in the very recent past) there were some very high profile players that "off the record" questioned Roque quite frequently...but I digress, hopefully Kapalka can make a speedy comeback and this becomes an afterthought

Sorry, but thats my opinion -- he is a 3rd string goalie and nothing more (at least nothing more to me, I'm sure his friends and family love him dearly and he is a heck of a nice guy and can play the heck out of a deck of cards). And I am not likely to play along if you're looking to use the alleged gumblings from, about, or around, a 3rd string goalie to call into question the Coach's bonafides. Sorry, but its going to take a lot more than a disgruntled 3rd string goalie (or his girlfriend) to allow me to accept "The Coach is a liar, cheat, and scoundrel" type comments -- either expressly stated or otherwise inferred.

Having spent my life in and aound hockey, I have heard these sorts of under-the-radar / behind-the-back / under-the-table gripes from many, many, many 3rd string goalies and 4th line players, 7th defensemen, 13th forward. At every level. If it sounds like a standard administration response, thats because it is a standard hockey team issue. Some guys play alot, some guys play a little, and some guys sit. Guys who sit want to play a little; guys who play a little want to play a lot. And guys who play a lot never want to come off the ice. And its ALWAYS the coach's fault. I was a slow, plodding defenseman with a wiffle-ball point shot -- but you know darn well when I was 18, I was convinced that I should be getting PP time -- and if only that stupid old goat of a coach woud give me the shot, I would show him that my skills would be more fully-revealed with more ice-time. The coach s always the source of frustration -- he makes you work, he makes you skate, he gives you dirty looks, he makes you have no-puck pratices when you sucked on Saturday night. He imposes rules that take the fun out of going out drinking with teammates. The coach is a bully, a scold, a taskmaster. Sometimes he can be a friend, sometimes he can be a counsellor, but he is always some sort of drill sergeant. Don't like it? Don't play hockey.

A similar absurd example is Kevin Hodson. He was a living diety in the Soo after backstopping the amazing Hounds' Memorial Cup run in 92-93. I remember when there were local Soo-based Wings fans screaming at Scotty Bowman because he didn't play Kevin Hodson enough! If only Scotty understood! If only Scotty knew how amazing this guy is! If only Scotty would give him a full chance! Scotty Bowman has lost his mind, he is just screwing with this kid! Let him play and he'll show you! Hodson was great in Juniors, highly prized, but he truly was a 3rd string goalie in the NHL. And was he a career 3rd Stringer because Scotty Bowman was out to ruin his career in a cavalvcade of lies and deceptions? (Actually, with Scotty, he might have been!). Or was he a 3rd stringer because that was about the best level he could get to?

One more Scotty Bowman nugget -- its one I pass on to every kid I coach: Larry Robinson (himself in the Hall of Fame on the 1st Ballot) said of Bowman, "For 364 days you hated that man. On the 365th day you picked up your Stanley Cup Ring." Roque is not Scotty Bowman. But the underlying fact is a hockey truth going back to the first days of strapping on skates -- hockey coaches are miseable SOBs. I played for some guys I look back on with tremendous affection and respect. But I know that for each of those coaches, at the time I played for them, I had a reason (or thought I had a reason) to complain about them.

The old Hockey Joke is that in hockey, you can't say "COACH" without adding the "effing" in front of it. There is no such thing as just a plain old "Hockey Coach," but every hockey player has an "effing Coach."

Anyhow, just my rambling thoughts on the matter. I love talking about line combinations, defense pairings, line-up choices. And the coach -- no matter who it is -- is always open to second guessing and questioning. Maybe Roque is playing unfair with this kid, maybe he really wants him to leave, and wants him to quit, and wants to make him leave. Maybe Roque is a mean spirited little creep. Or is it likely that the young man just hasn't shown enough on the ice to earn game-time minutes? I know what is the more likely explaination. But if we want to play Conspiracy Theory games, ok . . . so be it. To my ears, it just sounds like people reinventing the wheel, over and over again.

Coaches are mean.
Players gripe.
3rd String goalies sit.
Always.
 
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Oh my goodness! I LOVE the ignore feature!

A big thanks to all my fellow LSSU fans for tipping me off to this!
 
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