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LSSU Hockey 2012-2013

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I have nothing against Ravn or Murdoch but since many people seem to like to point to stats in Juniors as a point of contention and compare Ravn and KK, has anybody looked at Murdoch's fron Lincoln (USHL I might add)?

07-08 15 games. 3.06. .895
08-09. 35 games. 2.24. .920
09-10. 52 games. 2.91. .907

Not too bad in what is considered to be the best Junior League in the US. Maybe it's not that Ravn is that bad but Murdoch is that much better and thus Ravn is the 3rd stringer.
 
Sorry, but thats my opinion -- he is a 3rd string goalie and nothing more (at least nothing more to me, I'm sure his friends and family love him dearly and he is a heck of a nice guy and can play the heck out of a deck of cards). And I am not likely to play along if you're looking to use the alleged gumblings from, about, or around, a 3rd string goalie to call into question the Coach's bonafides. Sorry, but its going to take a lot more than a disgruntled 3rd string goalie (or his girlfriend) to allow me to accept "The Coach is a liar, cheat, and scoundrel" type comments -- either expressly stated or otherwise inferred.

Having spent my life in and aound hockey, I have heard these sorts of under-the-radar / behind-the-back / under-the-table gripes from many, many, many 3rd string goalies and 4th line players, 7th defensemen, 13th forward. At every level. If it sounds like a standard administration response, thats because it is a standard hockey team issue. Some guys play alot, some guys play a little, and some guys sit. Guys who sit want to play a little; guys who play a little want to play a lot. And guys who play a lot never want to come off the ice. And its ALWAYS the coach's fault. I was a slow, plodding defenseman with a wiffle-ball point shot -- but you know darn well when I was 18, I was convinced that I should be getting PP time -- and if only that stupid old goat of a coach woud give me the shot, I would show him that my skills would be more fully-revealed with more ice-time. The coach s always the source of frustration -- he makes you work, he makes you skate, he gives you dirty looks, he makes you have no-puck pratices when you sucked on Saturday night. He imposes rules that take the fun out of going out drinking with teammates. The coach is a bully, a scold, a taskmaster. Sometimes he can be a friend, sometimes he can be a counsellor, but he is always some sort of drill sergeant. Don't like it? Don't play hockey.

A similar absurd example is Kevin Hodson. He was a living diety in the Soo after backstopping the amazing Hounds' Memorial Cup run in 92-93. I remember when there were local Soo-based Wings fans screaming at Scotty Bowman because he didn't play Kevin Hodson enough! If only Scotty understood! If only Scotty knew how amazing this guy is! If only Scotty would give him a full chance! Scotty Bowman has lost his mind, he is just screwing with this kid! Let him play and he'll show you! Hodson was great in Juniors, highly prized, but he truly was a 3rd string goalie in the NHL. And was he a career 3rd Stringer because Scotty Bowman was out to ruin his career in a cavalvcade of lies and deceptions? (Actually, with Scotty, he might have been!). Or was he a 3rd stringer because that was about the best level he could get to?

One more Scotty Bowman nugget -- its one I pass on to every kid I coach: Larry Robinson (himself in the Hall of Fame on the 1st Ballot) said of Bowman, "For 364 days you hated that man. On the 365th day you picked up your Stanley Cup Ring." Roque is not Scotty Bowman. But the underlying fact is a hockey truth going back to the first days of strapping on skates -- hockey coaches are miseable SOBs. I played for some guys I look back on with tremendous affection and respect. But I know that for each of those coaches, at the time I played for them, I had a reason (or thought I had a reason) to complain about them.

The old Hockey Joke is that in hockey, you can't say "COACH" without adding the "effing" in front of it. There is no such thing as just a plain old "Hockey Coach," but every hockey player has an "effing Coach."

Anyhow, just my rambling thoughts on the matter. I love talking about line combinations, defense pairings, line-up choices. And the coach -- no matter who it is -- is always open to second guessing and questioning. Maybe Roque is playing unfair with this kid, maybe he really wants him to leave, and wants him to quit, and wants to make him leave. Maybe Roque is a mean spirited little creep. Or is it likely that the young man just hasn't shown enough on the ice to earn game-time minutes? I know what is the more likely explaination. But if we want to play Conspiracy Theory games, ok . . . so be it. To my ears, it just sounds like people reinventing the wheel, over and over again.

Coaches are mean.
Players gripe.
3rd String goalies sit.
Always.

I'm not going to continue to rehash this with you over and over, you think that it is simply a matter of talent, black and white while I think that there are some peculiar circumstances that suggest there may be a bit more to the story....in any case I want to make it clear that I in no way was trying to use this to infer any anti-Roque sentiment.....in fact I am currently more "pro-Roque" then I have ever been.....he seems to be heading in the right direction (albeit slowly), which I have to be honest, is something a few years ago I didn't see possible. At the end of the day we both wants what's is best for the Lakers and that is good enough for me!
 
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I hope Ravn gets his shot this weekend. It would be sad to see a nice young man like him, who put up good numbers like Bill said and others too, and works hard, not to get his chance because of other reasons.

I'm sure Murdock will start both games this weekend unless he completely stinks it up Friday.

We should know shortly how much time Kepalka will miss.
 
I have nothing against Ravn or Murdoch but since many people seem to like to point to stats in Juniors as a point of contention and compare Ravn and KK, has anybody looked at Murdoch's fron Lincoln (USHL I might add)?

07-08 15 games. 3.06. .895
08-09. 35 games. 2.24. .920
09-10. 52 games. 2.91. .907

Not too bad in what is considered to be the best Junior League in the US. Maybe it's not that Ravn is that bad but Murdoch is that much better and thus Ravn is the 3rd stringer.

While I agree Murdock had very good numbers in the top junior league in the U.S., your listing of them is incorrect, the stats you listed for 09-10 are his stats for the 2010-2011 USHL season. In 2009-2010 Murdock played for Minnesota State Mankato and put up less than stellar stats 3.46 GAA and .895 save percentage in limited time, he then went back to Lincoln for the following season before coming to LSSU
 
While I agree Murdock had very good numbers in the top junior league in the U.S., your listing of them is incorrect, the stats you listed for 09-10 are his stats for the 2010-2011 USHL season. In 2009-2010 Murdock played for Minnesota State Mankato and put up less than stellar stats 3.46 GAA and .895 save percentage in limited time, he then went back to Lincoln for the following season before coming to LSSU


I do apologize for making 2 errors. One was spelling Kevin's name wrong, Murdoch instead of Murdock and two, the last year played i quoted was wrong. However you could at least point out he only played 5 games for the .895 and the 3.45 with Minesota Mankato, but that would not help your cause, so I understand.
 
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I do apologize for making 2 errors. One was spelling Kevin's name wrong, Murdoch instead of Murdock and two, the last year played i quoted was wrong. However you could at least point out he only played 5 games for the .895 and the 3.45 with Minesota Mankato, but that would not help your cause, so I understand.
AnchorsAway did say Murdock saw "limited" time at Mankato. For whatever reason, things just didn't work out for him there so he went back to Lincoln. I think you're reading too much into AnchorsAway's comments.
 
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Tough weekend in Fairbanks. Another future Big Snow Conference rival, UAF looks, on paper, very similar to LSSU. The big ice in Faibanks is always a pain. Any predictions?
 
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Tough weekend in Fairbanks. Another future Big Snow Conference rival, UAF looks, on paper, very similar to LSSU. The big ice in Faibanks is always a pain. Any predictions?
Alaska has one big line from a scoring perspective, so the Lakers need to keep that line reasonably under control and not let the other secondary lines do much on the scoreboard and we'll have a chance to get some points, assuming we can score some goals ourselves of course. We need to play good D, get good goaltending, and get at least 2-3 goals in each of the games. Sure we could win a 1-0 game but I wouldn't count on it.
 
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Shame on us as Laker fans for letting the week make it to Thursday before mentioning and giving kudos to Zach Sternberg for being named CCHA defenseman of the week for his 3 assist weekend against Michigan State. Roque critics who argue that JR fails to develop his players need to look elsewhere in the case of Sternberg, an average sized (6'0 187 lbs.) kid who battled to work his way into the defensive rotation as a freshman and did so by the middle of that year, playing in 20 games, but notched only a single assist in that campaign. Last year he made the lineup in 27 games and increased his point total to 5 with a goal and 4 assists. Sternberg has already tied his career high in points this year through 6 games and is currently tied for 2nd on the team in points, hopefully Zach can continue to have a breakout offensive season for the Lakers, as unexpected contributions from players like him may be key for the Anchor to have success this year. Congrats Zach!
 
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To follow up on Bill's comments, we seem to really struggle on the Olympic ice. The Lakers' teams are usually big, strong and physical, which doesn't jive well with that much open ice. It allows the other teams with speed to eliminate that physical presence we are used to seeing here at the Taffy.

Congrats to Sternberg, a good example of hard work and good coaching paying off. Hoepfully he can continue to get better!
I've heard Roque say a couple of times this season that the Lakers are starting to look at speed more in their recruiting due to the fact they will be faced with 4 Olympic ice sheets in the WCHA next season; I think he said they are NMU, Alaska, Alaska-Anchorage and Minnesota-Mankato. That's welcome news and long overdue in my opinion. I think we have concentrated too much on size and not enough on speed, and the way the game is called nowadays it seems like you can't put big hits on the opposition without getting a penalty anyway, so speed is an increasingly important factor and size much less so, at least at the college level, regardless of ice size.

Congrats to Sternberg. He was recruited as an offensive D-man, so it's nice to see him finally starting to get some points.
 
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I've heard Roque say a couple of times this season that the Lakers are starting to look at speed more in their recruiting due to the fact they will be faced with 4 Olympic ice sheets in the WCHA next season; I think he said they are NMU, Alaska, Alaska-Anchorage and Minnesota-Mankato. That's welcome news and long overdue in my opinion. I think we have concentrated too much on size and not enough on speed, and the way the game is called nowadays it seems like you can't put big hits on the opposition without getting a penalty anyway, so speed is an increasingly important factor and size much less so, at least at the college level, regardless of ice size.

Congrats to Sternberg. He was recruited as an offensive D-man, so it's nice to see him finally starting to get some points.


LONG overdue. I agree. NCAA hockey has been a speed game for twenty years. Although they laid a big egg in Denver last weekend, you need to look no further than the improved fortunes of Michigan Tech to see that speed, at the college game, trumps size more often than not.

I had not seen that quote -- but I am glad the Lakers are looking for some wheels. I have said all year that the Lakers seem a faster team in the past few seasons. Marginally, but surely, faster. Good to see.

I hadn't thought about the Big Ice, since most CCHA teams play on regulation sheets. But that is an interesting point -- UAA, UAF, NMU, and Mankato are all big sheets? I did not know that about Mankato and UAA. Should be an interesting transition next year to a league with more speed.
 
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LONG overdue. I agree. NCAA hockey has been a speed game for twenty years. Although they laid a big egg in Denver last weekend, you need to look no further than the improved fortunes of Michigan Tech to see that speed, at the college game, trumps size more often than not.

I had not seen that quote -- but I am glad the Lakers are looking for some wheels. I have said all year that the Lakers seem a faster team in the past few seasons. Marginally, but surely, faster. Good to see.

I hadn't thought about the Big Ice, since most CCHA teams play on regulation sheets. But that is an interesting point -- UAA, UAF, NMU, and Mankato are all big sheets? I did not know that about Mankato and UAA. Should be an interesting transition next year to a league with more speed.
Roque made the speed comment on both the Laker Hockey Show and the Inside Laker Hockey podcast if I remember correctly. At any rate, I heard him say it on two different occasions. Although I don't get to see the Lakers play in person very often, I think a guy like Perfetto is evidence of the coaches starting to change the recruiting strategy. My impression from listening to the broadcasts is that he is a pretty good skater (although not very big); correct me if I'm wrong about that.
 
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Good night so far. Spartans lost and scUM is about to lose. Let's hope the Lakers can continue their Friday night success.

EDIT: Looks like I jumped the gun early on the Michigan/NMU game. Didn't expect NMU to blow a 3 goal lead with just 12 minutes left on home ice.
 
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Tough loss. Pathetic 3rd period....this one stings.

Not a great 1st period either. It's really an impressive feat to go 39 to 19 shots on goal and lose in the waning seconds of the game. The Lakers played very good D tonight, with the quantity of chances the nooks had, any quality ones were muted by good defense.
 
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Tough loss for you guys, but I was impressed with your grit, and Murdock by and large played a great game.
 
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