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Lead up to Sochi

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I looked up tickets and saw they were something like $27. Holy chit!!? For a women's, exhibition hockey game? Just wow.

Consider yourself lucky.

I paid $37/ea plus the fat added on top brought the total to $47/ea. And don't forget the $10. for parking.

But it was an enjoyable evening with great atmosphere and a surprise ending...sort of like a who done it?
 
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I don't think you've watched the Jenner elbow yet or......

I've watched the video over and over and over on that goon hockey website and I can't see the Canadian players elbow come up. It looks like the USA players head possibly ran into the shoulder. There's no way to say for sure after watching that video. Lammy girls hit last night was intentional and near the boards where things can go pear shaped in a heartbeat. That I can tell immediately from watching the video.

Team USA can win while playing within the rules and without negatively reacting to the other teams baiting. That's what I want to see in February.


That's all I've got to say.
 
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But they weren't hacks last night, they were good teammates.

JLam is as dirty as they come and there is no way that you can say that her check was clean. First off, it was a body-check and second it was about 5 degrees away from being a very dangerous hit from behind. Her reaction after the check is all the evidence that I need to know that it was dirty. She looked around to check the direction of the first CDN player to come after her. She knew what she was doing and she was preparing for the backlash. That being said, JLam being dirty greatly contributes to her effectiveness as a player. Don't like her though.
Edit: I agree with Tuuk as well. Can't see Jenner's elbow come up. Pucci steps into her path after playing the puck and Jenner drops her shoulder a bit to get her out of the way. The elbow rises as a follow through on the contact.
 
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This blog post has the Jenner elbow in question. [click to view] Maybe you should think twice before spouting off. These two women you refer to as hacks are world class players.

Thanks for providing the link.

For what it's worth, I had a great conversation with the guy beside me (who was a US fan) throughout the game and this hit (Jenner colliding with Pucci) happened right in front of us. We both looked at each other immediately afterward and were in total agreement that slow moving Pucci (at the time) just stepped in front of a speeding truck and the consequences were what you would expect...inertia and the laws of physics take over.

The surprising thing about the video was how little Jocelyn Larocque bulldogged (no pun intended) large Hilary Knight to the ice. The smart money would have lost that bet.

And "Jocelyn Lemieux"???
 
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JLam is as dirty as they come and there is no way that you can say that her check was clean. First off, it was a body-check and second it was about 5 degrees away from being a very dangerous hit from behind. Her reaction after the check is all the evidence that I need to know that it was dirty. She looked around to check the direction of the first CDN player to come after her. She knew what she was doing and she was preparing for the backlash. That being said, JLam being dirty greatly contributes to her effectiveness as a player. Don't like her though.
Edit: I agree with Tuuk as well. Can't see Jenner's elbow come up. Pucci steps into her path after playing the puck and Jenner drops her shoulder a bit to get her out of the way. The elbow rises as a follow through on the contact.

So according to you:
Jenner didn't land an elbow so she only body-checked and JLam was close to a dirty hit, but she only body-checked ALSO. 2 minute penalties were assessed to both. The refs let em play and guess what? They fought! The history with Jenner cannot be forgotten, especially when US is up 4-1. With no future consequences she stuck up for her teammate.
Whatever you think of Jenner's hit/elbow, the Lams intent wasnt to be dirty for no reason at all, it was retaliatory and very intentional.
 
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So according to you:
Jenner didn't land an elbow so she only body-checked and JLam was close to a dirty hit, but she only body-checked ALSO. 2 minute penalties were assessed to both. The refs let em play and guess what? They fought! The history with Jenner cannot be forgotten, especially when US is up 4-1. With no future consequences she stuck up for her teammate.
Whatever you think of Jenner's hit/elbow, the Lams intent wasnt to be dirty for no reason at all, it was retaliatory and very intentional.

I thought that MLam made that point by taking out Szabados? Or was that something else?

Jenners hit and penalty was part of the game. JLam targeted Jenner as retaliation. Defending? Sure, why not. Dirty? Absolutely. BTW, I said CLOSE to being a dangerous hit, not a dirty hit.
 
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I thought that MLam made that point by taking out Szabados? Or was that something else?

Jenners hit and penalty was part of the game. JLam targeted Jenner as retaliation. Defending? Sure, why not. Dirty? Absolutely. BTW, I said CLOSE to being a dangerous hit, not a dirty hit.

So its dirty because body-checking (intentional or not) isn't allowed in womens hockey? Guess what, Fighting happens to be apart of the game also. Its only a 5 min penalty. Szabados got nominated for actress of the year btw
 
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So its dirty because body-checking (intentional or not) isn't allowed in womens hockey? Guess what, Fighting happens to be apart of the game also. Its only a 5 min penalty. Szabados got nominated for actress of the year btw

Whatever. You can carry on with your ND love-in. In a rare instance, I agree with TTT. The Lams are hacks!
 
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My opinion:

1) I've watched the referee in WCHA action. I'm not taking her word on anything.
2) Jenner got her two minutes worth for bodychecking but there was no elbow. It wasn't especially egregious as hits go. I understand that there is a history here but this just wasn't much of a cheap shot.
3) The JLam check was a cheap shot. It's not just that she hit her but that she really followed through into the boards. This was definitely boarding and I would have considered giving it five on its own.
4) As the fight breaks out, MLam delivers a series of cross checks to the back of Daoust who really hadn't done much to that point other skate to the crease and get railroaded by Knight.

So it was a bad situation already but the Lamoureuxs went out of their way to escalate things in a serious way. Boarding Jenner goes way beyond just defending your teammate.
 
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In a way it is unfortunate, but as I was just catching up on posts in this thread, with Good Morning America in the background, what do you think happened?

Yup, the brawl made the news with video, note of the final score, and the fact that they play again in St Paul next weekend. While I would prefer that highlights of goals and big saves had been sufficient to warrant air time, it seems that scraps like that at games end are what get the publicity. As they say "the only bad publicity is no publicity."
 
Re: Streaming onto a TV screen? -- Technical advice sought!

Re: Streaming onto a TV screen? -- Technical advice sought!

Before this conversation boils down to hockey I just want to throw in my appreciation for seeing this game on my big screen HD LCD. I pay and watch every time for the video streams of college (Gopher) games. It was just marvelous to see women's hockey with visual clarity generally reserved for the NHL and the Gopher men.

True! Theoretically, you should be able to just project a streamed game from your laptop onto a TV screen via HDMI cable, Thunderbolt or whatever connector is compatible.....but.....neither my PC nor our kids' MACs can be set to format the picture to fill the entire TV screen: either the picture fills only part of the TV screen (similar effect as with certain aspect-ratio movies on DVD) or it spills over beyond the boundaries of the TV screen. So you do end up watching the picture on the TV screen, but with a smaller picture than a cable broadcast would provide. And with whatever shortcomings in quality may be inherent in the streaming feed.

Has anybody encountered, and solved, this problem?
 
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....Just watched it again and thought Stone was smart to have her fighting line on the ice with 16 seconds to go.

Spot on! (LOL) Wish we could run tape of Scotty Bowman and Don Cherry sending out respective three-F two-D goon squads to confront each other in Canadiens-Bruins games back in the Golden Age of Fisticuffs.
 
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My opinion:

1) I've watched the referee in WCHA action. I'm not taking her word on anything.
2) Jenner got her two minutes worth for bodychecking but there was no elbow. It wasn't especially egregious as hits go. I understand that there is a history here but this just wasn't much of a cheap shot.
3) The JLam check was a cheap shot. It's not just that she hit her but that she really followed through into the boards. This was definitely boarding and I would have considered giving it five on its own.
4) As the fight breaks out, MLam delivers a series of cross checks to the back of Daoust who really hadn't done much to that point other skate to the crease and get railroaded by Knight.

So it was a bad situation already but the Lamoureuxs went out of their way to escalate things in a serious way. Boarding Jenner goes way beyond just defending your teammate.

I think that this is a pretty accurate description of what took place and I agree there was no elbow. There sure are lots of things going on in that video. Also interesting to listen to both the US and Canadian audio versions.

I would just add that Jenner's skating into the corner at somewhat of an angle certainly didn't help her cause (meaning that her stability was compromised in an impact situation from the side) nor J-Lam's (meaning that the explosion with her arms resulted in a more dramatic result than would otherwise be the case making it look worse than it otherwise would have).
 
Re: Streaming onto a TV screen? -- Technical advice sought!

Re: Streaming onto a TV screen? -- Technical advice sought!

True! Theoretically, you should be able to just project a streamed game from your laptop onto a TV screen via HDMI cable, Thunderbolt or whatever connector is compatible.....but.....neither my PC nor our kids' MACs can be set to format the picture to fill the entire TV screen: either the picture fills only part of the TV screen (similar effect as with certain aspect-ratio movies on DVD) or it spills over beyond the boundaries of the TV screen. So you do end up watching the picture on the TV screen, but with a smaller picture than a cable broadcast would provide. And with whatever shortcomings in quality may be inherent in the streaming feed.

Has anybody encountered, and solved, this problem?
My cable provider provides live internet streaming (in HD) of virtually everything that has ever aired on the TV. So, yeah, I'm plenty familiar with HDMI transfer from PC to TV. I pull it up on the laptop and watch it on TV, using the computer mouse instead of the TV remote control for things like pause and audio level. I don't bother with transferring hockey streaming to the TV as the video quality is usually so poor that I often don't even bother to go full screen on my computer monitor. The video is grainy on the smallest size and immediately blurs into headache material as it gets blown up. It is bad at 15 inches, please, no way at 55.

I'm not positive about this but on my new TV I think you do that size formatting in the TV menu, not the PC.
 
Re: Streaming onto a TV screen? -- Technical advice sought!

Re: Streaming onto a TV screen? -- Technical advice sought!

My cable provider provides live internet streaming (in HD) of virtually everything that has ever aired on the TV. So, yeah, I'm plenty familiar with HDMI transfer from PC to TV. I pull it up on the laptop and watch it on TV, using the computer mouse instead of the TV remote control for things like pause and audio level. I don't bother with transferring hockey streaming to the TV as the video quality is usually so poor that I often don't even bother to go full screen on my computer monitor. The video is grainy on the smallest size and immediately blurs into headache material as it gets blown up. It is bad at 15 inches, please, no way at 55.

I'm not positive about this but on my new TV I think you do that size formatting in the TV menu, not the PC.

Thanks! I'll definitely try the size formatting on the TV menu, never thought of that.

Back east the quality of streamed videos varies widely from school to school, with Northeastern being by far the best: excellent lighting, camera work, three announcers who have obviously watched tape about the visiting team's lines, tendencies etc. (even a one-time visiting team!). Perhaps the worst is Clarkson: no announcers, just the PA announcements and ambient noise of the arena including that **** train whistle when Clarkson scores on your team!
 
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