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Latest pairwise rankings

sezenack said:
The Big Ten inflates their out-of-conference win percentage by playing a ton of home games against Atlantic Hockey (and paying them to do it). Penn State is the biggest offender
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The Big Ten has played 11 games vs. AHA opponents this season, the NCHC has played 10. Not a big difference there. The only difference is how well they've done vs. AHA opponents... 10-0-1 for the Big Ten, 6-4-0 for the NCHC.

https://www.collegehockeynews.com/reports/standings-interconf.php?s=20222023
 
Speed Kills said:
The Big Ten has played 11 games vs. AHA opponents this season, the NCHC has played 10. Not a big difference there. The only difference is how well they've done vs. AHA opponents... 10-0-1 for the Big Ten, 6-4-0 for the NCHC.

https://www.collegehockeynews.com/reports/standings-interconf.php?s=20222023
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The hidden fact is bten has played 18 games against independent teams (the largest share vs any “conference”, a wopping 26% of all their ooc games). Of course of those 18 games, 14 were at home (13-1-0).

pahhhh thetic
 
I'd like to point out that the chances of the B1G getting 6 into the NCAA's is now virtually zero as Notre Dame is highly unlikely to finish above .500 & therefore not eligible unless they win the conference tournament.
 
mookie1995 said:
The hidden fact is bten has played 18 games against independent teams (the largest share vs any “conference”, a wopping 26% of all their ooc games). Of course of those 18 games, 14 were at home (13-1-0).

pahhhh thetic
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Is there any adjustment for winning or losing a home vs an away game? Most of the independents never get to see these teams at home. If they do its a 2-1 deal at best.
 
giwan said:
Is there any adjustment for winning or losing a home vs an away game? Most of the independents never get to see these teams at home. If they do its a 2-1 deal at best.
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Yes, the 'adjustment' system came in back in 2013-14. Road wins are weighted by a factor of 1.2 and home wins by a factor of 0.8 with neutral sites not weighted.

Here's how the Big Ten breaks down in where their non-con games were played this season:

8 home, 2 away - Penn State
7 home, 3 away - Michigan
6 home, 2 away - Wisconsin (2 neutral site games)
6 home, 4 away - Minnesota
5 home, 3 away - Michigan State (2 neutral site games)
5 home, 5 away - Notre Dame
3 home, 7 away - Ohio State
 
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This was interesting to me about the Big Ten out-of-conference schedule. The league played 70 non-conference games this season, and if the NCAA tournament started today only 17 of them will have been against teams in the field.

6 - Michigan (2 vs WMU, 2 vs Harvard, 2 vs BU)
4 - Minnesota (2 vs SCSU, 2 vs MnSt)
4 - Notre Dame (2 vs WMU, Denver, SCSU)
2 - Wisconsin (2 vs SCSU)
1 - Michigan State (Tech)

Ohio State and Penn State did not play another team who will be in the field unless they earn an auto-bid.

The average PairWise rank for each Big Ten team's out-of-conference opponents:

23rd - Notre Dame
28th - Michigan, Minnesota
33rd - Michigan State
37th - Penn State
44th - Wisconsin
47th - Ohio State

That's objectively weak scheduling, and the Big Ten is benefitting from it in the PairWise.
 
John J. MacInnes said:
The average PairWise rank for each Big Ten team's out-of-conference opponents:
23rd - Notre Dame
28th - Michigan, Minnesota
33rd - Michigan State
37th - Penn State
44th - Wisconsin
47th - Ohio State
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it is pretty hilarious this weak OOC schedule is being held up as the entire reason for conference supremacy. I'll be surprised if the B1G doesnt repeat their usual early NCAA exit this year.

John J. MacInnes said:
That's objectively weak scheduling, and the Big Ten is benefitting from it in the PairWise.
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I have heard it stated that the best strategy for conference success is to schedule the strongest OOC games you are confident you can win. The B1G is proving that strength is irrelevant. Just win...
 
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This was interesting to me about the Big Ten out-of-conference schedule. The league played 70 non-conference games this season, and if the NCAA tournament started today only 17 of them will have been against teams in the field.

6 - Michigan (2 vs WMU, 2 vs Harvard, 2 vs BU)
4 - Minnesota (2 vs SCSU, 2 vs MnSt)
4 - Notre Dame (2 vs WMU, Denver, SCSU)
2 - Wisconsin (2 vs SCSU)
1 - Michigan State (Tech)

Ohio State and Penn State did not play another team who will be in the field unless they earn an auto-bid.

The average PairWise rank for each Big Ten team's out-of-conference opponents:

23rd - Notre Dame
28th - Michigan, Minnesota
33rd - Michigan State
37th - Penn State
44th - Wisconsin
47th - Ohio State

That's objectively weak scheduling, and the Big Ten is benefitting from it in the PairWise.
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John - not sure what this B10 analysis proves/says? I took a quick look at the NCHC for comparison (not including any exhibition games) and the NCHC shows 84 games played with a ratio of 14 against the field which is considerably weaker by percentage. I think if you look at who the quality teams in the country are this year based on watching them play the Pairwise is fairly accurately showing the most consistent regular season teams. Is there another conference that supports a considerably better ratio?

As far as the B10, IMO only MN and MICH are legit threats for a Natty. I think most major conferences have 1-2 teams with serious chances. Should be fun to see how it shakes out.
 
moose97 it is pretty hilarious this weak OOC schedule is being held up as the entire reason for conference supremacy. I'll be surprised if the B1G doesnt repeat their usual early NCAA exit this year.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the B10 have two frozen four teams last year?
 
StateofHockey78 said:
The two most deserving teams made the final. I was at the games, Michigan choked and I think MN probably over-achieved getting there last year. My point is if you get two teams into the FF that's a two game winning streak.
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heck, even bu had a couple two game winning streaks last season. big deal
 
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