Duluth hockey fans warned after racist chants

[mnstate0fhockey]

How can you possibly call something that was not done on purpose "essentially an act of genocide?" That's just disturbing if you really can make that comparison.

Using infected blankets to kill large numbers of a certain race of people without the immune system to handle the disease would be an act of genocide.

I never said the act of genocide took place. I AM saying that glorifying the concept by using it in a chant is sick and disturbing.

 

[Old Pio]

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Using infected blankets to kill large numbers of a certain race of people without the immune system to handle the disease would be an act of genocide.

I never said the act of genocide took place. I AM saying that glorifying it by using it in a chant is sick and disturbing.

Bluto: What? Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!
Otter: [to Boon] Germans?
Boon: Forget it, he's rolling.

 

[Dirty]

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The solution is easy: Have UND retire their racist logo/mascot and the issue of the chants will be solved.

When is BU changing their nickname to something more fitting of their current student population, The Lady Rapers?

 

[Biddco]

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Some merit? It has no merit. It is a lie. And has been shown to be so repeatedly. The idea may have merit in the eyes of die hard anti-whites, but no one else. It never happened. Never.

I meant your argument with notations has merit.

 

[Old Pio]

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I meant your argument with notations has merit.

My bad. You know, there's plenty about America's dealings with Indians that's hard to defend. It shouldn't be necessary to rely on a fairy tale advanced by a tendentious, under qualified, faux Indian twit (remember "little Eichmanns?") Think about it for a minute. In the context of a professor's literary output, is there anything worse than being found to be a liar and plagiarist? I would guess most professors would want to avoid being written up in the journal "Plagiary."

 

[Fighting Sioux 23]

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When is BU changing their nickname to something more fitting of their current student population, The Lady Rapers?

You're missing the point. BU should have an all-female and all-male campus, and no one of the opposite sex can enter the other campus, otherwise people might make inappropriate and insensitive jokes about rape. It's really the only option because apparently we cannot hold fans accountable for their own actions.

 

[TimP]

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When is BU changing their nickname to something more fitting of their current student population, The Lady Rapers?

If you ask me, they shouldn't be allowed to compete in the NCAA because of their horrible academics. They're a disgrace to the great city of Boston.

 

[Dirty]

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I was with you until you called Boston a great city.

 

[Tipsy McStagger]

They're a disgrace to the great city of Boston.

Speaking of racism...

 

[TimP]

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It's not for everybody. We don't think our lack of knuckle dragging hicks is a bad thing. But if you do visit, you can at least feel at home when you see all the cows and pigs that BU calls "women" roaming around.

 

[duper]

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Your tenacity in defending your innacuracy and anti-white prejudice is admirable. The issue was whether or not the US Army deliberately used infected blankets on Indians. Not whether that tactic was ever discussed by a foreign power. Anything else is just noise. And you're pretty noisy, as we've all seen. Let's see, using your standards, if the Roosevelt administration discussed, but declined to put American citizens of Japanese ancestry in concentration camps, it's the same as actually interning them. Do you realize how silly that is? Do you understand how wrong it is to defame the United States Army based on alleged discussions of a policy by another nation? Do you even care that this event never happened? You continue to repeat alleged discussions by the Brits as if it has some bearing on the Churchill lies. As I say, your tenacity in defending your apparant anti-white prejudice is admirable.

Old Pio, just as I don't bye your evidence that smallpox blankets were not used, I know that you won't bye the evidence that they did, so I won't bother searching the interwebs for the abundance of documentation that exists. However, idiot that Ward Churchill was (and I assure you that I agree that he was), those rumors predate him by quite a few decades (as someone has already proven) so it certainly was not started by Churchill. I know quite a few people who have actually studied this issue, including one who has a PhD in the subject, who assure me that plenty of documentation exists. It wasn't really any of the Sioux tribes, the army just did their best to starve them and kill them off in other ways, but they did use the smallpox blankets on some other groups.

In any case, I will say this. The chant isn't funny. There are VERY few things that I can't find a way to make a joke out of, but genocide is one of them. I wish that the few people who use that chant, and others that make light of the United States attempted genocide would stop. As an American, that particular episode in our history does not make me proud. Neither does making a joke of it.

 

[Shirtless Guy]

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Using infected blankets to kill large numbers of a certain race of people without the immune system to handle the disease would be an act of genocide.

I never said the act of genocide took place. I AM saying that glorifying the concept by using it in a chant is sick and disturbing.

You took this to twitter? You needed an answer so badly that you ask me to respond on twitter? Jack*****. Anyway, the fact that you can't separate intent. Genocide requires intent.

 

[duper]

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You took this to twitter? You needed an answer so badly that you ask me to respond on twitter? Jack*****. Anyway, the fact that you can't separate intent. Genocide requires intent.

Surely you're not suggesting that the US government did not intend to commit genocide against the Native Americans?

 

[Dirty]

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Surely you're not suggesting that the US government did not intend to commit genocide against the Native Americans?

Exactly. If this doesn't prove that Pioneers is a hostile and abusive nickname, what does? Change the name!

 

[SJHovey]

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But without one wrong, you don't have the other. No nickname, no chants: the blog post.

Great. So instead of the Duluth Bulldogs, they're the Duluth Pavlov's Dogs. Throw a certain type of logo in front of them and they're genetically incapable of doing anything but make stupid comments.

 

[The Rube]

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But without one wrong, you don't have the other. No nickname, no chants: the blog post.

So, next time, you'll excuse anyone who starts chanting "potato famine" or "bunch-of-drunk-micks"at the Fighting Irish, right? Right? No nickname, no chants. Right?

 

[Biddco]

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So, next time, you'll excuse anyone who starts chanting "potato famine" or "bunch-of-drunk-micks"at the Fighting Irish, right? Right? No nickname, no chants. Right?

Everyone always brings up the Fighting Irish as an example to prove a point about the Sioux nickname. I'd be fine if we got rid of the Fighting Irish nickname just so people would stop making this point.

 

[mnstate0fhockey]

You took this to twitter? You needed an answer so badly that you ask me to respond on twitter? Jack*****. Anyway, the fact that you can't separate intent. Genocide requires intent.

I find Twitter to be a little more civil. And in regard to "intent", if you read <a href="http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1088/did-whites-ever-give-native-americans-blankets-infected-with-smallpox">THIS</a> you'll find the "intent" I was referring to.

The British considered "intentionally" using blankets infected with small pox to kill Native Americans. That would have been genocide, and is what I was referring to.

<b>Excerpt:</b>

<I>Dear Philip:

A common reaction to this story is that it has to be folklore. Giving infected blankets to the Indians--why, that's awful! That's disgusting! That's ... <b><u>ethnic cleansing</u></b>. Hmm. Maybe this story bears a closer look. <b>Fact is, on at least one occasion a high-ranking European considered infecting the Indians with smallpox as a <u>tactic of war</u></b>.</I>

 

[The Rube]

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Everyone always brings up the Fighting Irish as an example to prove a point about the Sioux nickname. I'd be fine if we got rid of the Fighting Irish nickname just so people would stop making this point.

Well, it's the same concept. A people who have been reduced to a nickname. And the Irish were treated very badly here back in the day.

I'm making sure that anyone defending the "no nickname, no chants" thought will stay consistent if someone chants that at the Irish.

 

[Sloe Gin]

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if women didn't have vaginas, they wouldn't get raped.

back to hiding. *k you all