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Duluth hockey fans warned after racist chants

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duper said:
I agree with mnstateofhockey. Regardless of the reason for the chant, regardless of one's opinion about UND or the Sioux name or anything else, there just really isn't anything funny about some of those things.

Frankly, I know kids will be kids, but the things that student sections chant in general seem pretty embarrassing. Of course, I hear DU more than anyone else, and I know that our arena is widely held (probably correctly) as a crappy example of school spirit, but I just don't understand (and I swear to God I'm not 1000 years old) why vulgarity, rudeness and mean-spirited insults pass for wit and team spirit.
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Agreed and agreed. While I don't think that ALL the chants need be completely G rated, I do think that the gray area of poor taste is flaunted more often than needed. This, however, goes into an area that most would find deplorable.
 
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My favorite line from that article - “We’re racist but there are more extreme racist organizations out there,”
 
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willythekid said:
White supremacy group plans Duluth rally to protest anti-racism campaign

Daloot, a hotbed of racist activity?:eek:
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Duluth has a horrific event in it's past that keeps racism in the rearview mirror http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1920_Duluth_lynchings
That being said, the article says that the guy organizing the rally is from Superior, WI. Twenty to 100 people are expected, most from outside the area and some coming from as far away as New Mexico and Arizona, Hester said. “Hopefully, there will be some locals (attending),” he said.... Hester has no plans to get a permit. “The Occupy guys were there for 45 days without a permit,” Hester said. “It’s a public venue. I’m not planning to stay there 45 days. I refuse to pay for freedom of speech and freedom of assembly. If you have to pay for that, then we might as well be in Russia.” I doubt he'll get more than 20 people, and most will be his friends. The cops will break them up in less than half an hour for not having a permit, just to make the headache go away.

As for the chants, from what I heard it was a small group in the student section who attempted to get chants of "trail of tears", "we stole your land", and smallpox blankets" going. Most of the student section ignored them and the chants faded away, but not before others in the arena heard them. The University acted appropriately and reminded the student ticket holders that they can be removed and possibly have their future tickets voided for breaking the student code of conduct. The story should have ended there, but considering the current fight over the nickname, I think anti-nickname supporters are using it to fan the flames for their cause. Were the chants deplorable? Yes. Did the student section largely ignore them? Yes. Does it require national media attention? Not unless you have a political point to make.
 
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Retire the nickname. And the two-dimensional mascot.
 
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Runninwiththedogs said:
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Retire the nickname. And the two-dimensional mascot.
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Two wrongs don't make a right.
 
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Insensitive, racist chants directed at a school who's largest benefactor was a known Nazi sympathizer..

Infinite loop of evil achieved.
 
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duper said:
My favorite line from that article - “We’re racist but there are more extreme racist organizations out there,”
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Well at least he is moderate in his racism. :rolleyes:
 
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mnstate0fhockey said:
The British actually <a href="http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1088/did-whites-ever-give-native-americans-blankets-infected-with-smallpox">discussed doing it</a> during the French and Indian War, so it's not all make-believe.
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So in your world, discussing something is the same as actually doing it? And you slander the United States Army based on alleged discussions by the Brits? Churchill wrote that small pox infected blankets were deliberately given to Indians. The technical term for that is "lie." Ward Churchill is a notorious liar and plagiarist, as his colleagues at CU discovered when they investigated his "history." You can try to explain it away 'till the cows come home, but it never happened. Never. I will admit that anti-white mythology impresses some people.

Smallpox blanket genocide

In at least six different essays, Churchill alleged that the United States Army deliberately distributed smallpox-infected blankets to the Mandan Indians at Fort Clark in 1837 to spark a smallpox pandemic, and that hundreds of thousands of Indians died of smallpox as a consequence. Other scholars who have studied this episode agree that smallpox killed many Indians in this time frame, but deny that there is any evidence to support Churchill's allegations of deliberate genocide by means of smallpox blankets. They also charge Churchill with exaggerating the death toll and with falsifying the sources he cites in support of his claims. Professor Thomas Brown wrote in the journal Plagiary that, "Every aspect of Churchill's tale is fabricated."[18]

In November 2004, Guenter Lewy, a professor emeritus of political science at the University of Massachusetts, published an essay charging Churchill with misrepresenting his sources. Lewy says Churchill's assertion that the U.S. Army intentionally spread smallpox among American Indians by distributing infected blankets in 1837 is false. "He just makes things up," said Lewy. Lewy calls Churchill's claim of 100,000 deaths from the incident "obviously absurd".[19][20]

In an article in the journal Plagiary, entitled "Did the US Army Distribute Smallpox Blankets to Indians? Fabrication and Falsification in Ward Churchill's Genocide Rhetoric", Lamar University sociology professor Thomas Brown also accused Churchill of fabricating the incident and falsifying his sources.[21] Brown argues that Churchill's claim that his cited source—Russell Thornton—supports Churchill's smallpox blanket allegations is a falsification of Thornton. Brown also charges Churchill with fabricating the presence of US Army personnel on the scene, with fabricating the distribution of blankets taken from a military infirmary in St. Louis, and with concealing evidence in his possession that disconfirms his allegations.

Three of the authors that Churchill cites in support of his smallpox thesis, Evan Connell, RG Robertson and Russell Thornton, have rejected Churchill's interpretation of their work. Thornton characterized Churchill's smallpox thesis as "fabrication."[22]
 
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