Was wondering if that was the case. That made more sense than just the wedding.
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Coaching Openings
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Re: Coaching Openings
How time flies! I remember when she was named Minnesota's Ms. Hockey and was going with Mr. Hockey Aaron Ness (Aaron now plays for the New York Islanders).
http://www.twincities.com/ci_8526900
I believe they broke up at some point during college, while playing for the Gophers?
In any case, best of luck to Sarah and her husband!
How time flies! I remember when she was named Minnesota's Ms. Hockey and was going with Mr. Hockey Aaron Ness (Aaron now plays for the New York Islanders).
http://www.twincities.com/ci_8526900
I believe they broke up at some point during college, while playing for the Gophers?
In any case, best of luck to Sarah and her husband!
The team was really bummed when they found out. They really liked her. With that said they are very comfortable with Jason. I know my daughter says he is easy to get along with and will do just fine.
ARM
Fan of chipmunk-like mascots.
I gather that's still a bigger problem at a Christian school like Concordia than it is at a state institution? Obviously, I don't know; it could have been her choice to leave in any case.
ARM
Fan of chipmunk-like mascots.
I was asking. There was a time, not that long ago, when it would clearly have been an issue, at both public and private schools. I have no idea of what type of unofficial policies exist at any private educational institutions today. I know of coaches that have opted to leave a job after becoming a parent as well as after a change in marital status, so I'm not concluding anything.
ARM
Fan of chipmunk-like mascots.
This seems to be a problem for retaining young, female coaches around here at the college level if they want to raise a family. While HS hockey still requires a time and travel commitment, it is much less than what the college game asks.
Re: Coaching Openings
Was there year round recruiting in high school? Attending little Sally's games once week only to have her say, "No thanks."
Or your own games on Friday night, Saturday afternoon, then recruiting on Sunday until 5pm. Then driving back home for a couple hours...
Was there year round recruiting in high school? Attending little Sally's games once week only to have her say, "No thanks."
Or your own games on Friday night, Saturday afternoon, then recruiting on Sunday until 5pm. Then driving back home for a couple hours...
Recruiting in D3 women's hockey doesn't take a lot of time. This isn't Minnesota or North Dakota. I know a couple D3 coaches bud. Te recruiting is overblown. Now as a HS coach I and the team fund raised year round except during the season. Pretty sure college coaches don't. With that said I wish nothing but the best for Sarah. She was a good coach. Wish her well with the new addition on the way.
Now I will admit a D3 college coach is a bit more hectic than a HS coach it isn't night and day.
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Greenbayguy
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The quality of the D3 program and the location dictate the amount of time coaches spend recruiting. I'm sure for low quality programs where the coach is punching a clock there is little effort involved. I can speak authoritatively that for New England D3 schools that have any interest in being competitive, there is plenty of competition for potential players that can make an impact and that the coachess are out recruiting all year long.
The quality of the D3 program and the location dictate the amount of time coaches spend recruiting. I'm sure for low quality programs where the coach is punching a clock there is little effort involved. I can speak authoritatively that for New England D3 schools that have any interest in being competitive, there is plenty of competition for potential players that can make an impact and that the coachess are out recruiting all year long.
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Have to agree. I think it's laughable that someone could say recruiting at any level of college hockey is "overblown". This isn't soccer or basketball where there's a billion players for a billion programs. D1 comes with its own challenges, but D3 isn't D1 where you can lock a kid down by offering athletic scholarship. I could even argue that for many of the weaker programs (who may be there because of resources, not because of desire or effort by coaches and players) recruiting is even more of a job than the higher end programs because you likely have to evaluate and communicate with that many more players as your top targets keep getting swooped up by other schools, some players want nothing to do with you because of your program history, and the kids that are all about your program and sending you emails every 3 days may not be all that good.
You also have schools that have their hands tied by other factors aside from prestige...maybe they have no international aid, maybe their school is really expensive and doesn't have much help financially, they don't have great facilities, too small of a town/campus, all female, etc...All things that could force you to have to turn over a lot more stones and work a lot harder to find the 5 or 6 kids where there's a mutual interest and that can actually help your program and be more than two feet and a heartbeat.
JMHO.
Have to agree. I think it's laughable that someone could say recruiting at any level of college hockey is "overblown". This isn't soccer or basketball where there's a billion players for a billion programs. D1 comes with its own challenges, but D3 isn't D1 where you can lock a kid down by offering athletic scholarship. I could even argue that for many of the weaker programs (who may be there because of resources, not because of desire or effort by coaches and players) recruiting is even more of a job than the higher end programs because you likely have to evaluate and communicate with that many more players as your top targets keep getting swooped up by other schools, some players want nothing to do with you because of your program history, and the kids that are all about your program and sending you emails every 3 days may not be all that good.
You also have schools that have their hands tied by other factors aside from prestige...maybe they have no international aid, maybe their school is really expensive and doesn't have much help financially, they don't have great facilities, too small of a town/campus, all female, etc...All things that could force you to have to turn over a lot more stones and work a lot harder to find the 5 or 6 kids where there's a mutual interest and that can actually help your program and be more than two feet and a heartbeat.
JMHO.
Not doubting you. Just going by how my daughter was recruited and the coaches I know. But my daughter did commit early so it was an easy get for the coach.
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I think there are probably a number of D3 coaches out there that could make you eat those words about fundraising in a pretty big way.
As far as the last part. Here's your big difference. At the end of practice in HS you get to send the kids home to mommy and daddy who get to deal with their ups and downs and problems and discipline and all that jazz. Mr or Miss College Coach get to be mommy and daddy for 25 kids for the better part of 9 months. It's the definition of night and day.
I think there are probably a number of D3 coaches out there that could make you eat those words about fundraising in a pretty big way.
As far as the last part. Here's your big difference. At the end of practice in HS you get to send the kids home to mommy and daddy who get to deal with their ups and downs and problems and discipline and all that jazz. Mr or Miss College Coach get to be mommy and daddy for 25 kids for the better part of 9 months. It's the definition of night and day.
I should not of put a blanket over all D3 women's coaches. Just going by my experience and the coaches I know from this area. My apologies.
giwan
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There are weak programs in D3 as well as D1. Some CLUB teams may get more support than some D3 programs.
Anyone brave enough to start a list, putting D1 teams in 3 categories STRONG, WORKING AT IT, NEEDS HELP, and doing the same for D3 teams?
There are weak programs in D3 as well as D1. Some CLUB teams may get more support than some D3 programs.
Anyone brave enough to start a list, putting D1 teams in 3 categories STRONG, WORKING AT IT, NEEDS HELP, and doing the same for D3 teams?
pokechecker
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with attendance being what it is, all but 2 should be eliminated from the Strong category, but even both of them aren't where they want to be as a program so they are still Working At It
with attendance being what it is, all but 2 should be eliminated from the Strong category, but even both of them aren't where they want to be as a program so they are still Working At It
CrossCheck
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not only is it not 'night and day'...in some cases, the Tier 1 Club coach [say U16/U19] is More demanding than your typical D3 coach's job.
1. 50-80 games vs 23-25 games
2. More travel [many teams log thousands of miles to travel all over the US and Canada every year.
3. Travel to practice is often 20-50 mile trip...sometimes more....vs. practicing right on campus.
4. The kiddies are older and [presumably] more mature and able to do what needs to be done w/o a lot of hand-holding and yelling.
5. You have the help of qualified assistant coaches, trainers, schedulers, managers, yada, yada that a Club coach could never dream of.
6 and most importantly.....NO NUTTY PARENTS to deal with.
Yup, the D3 coach has it much easier.
not only is it not 'night and day'...in some cases, the Tier 1 Club coach [say U16/U19] is More demanding than your typical D3 coach's job.
1. 50-80 games vs 23-25 games
2. More travel [many teams log thousands of miles to travel all over the US and Canada every year.
3. Travel to practice is often 20-50 mile trip...sometimes more....vs. practicing right on campus.
4. The kiddies are older and [presumably] more mature and able to do what needs to be done w/o a lot of hand-holding and yelling.
5. You have the help of qualified assistant coaches, trainers, schedulers, managers, yada, yada that a Club coach could never dream of.
6 and most importantly.....NO NUTTY PARENTS to deal with.
Yup, the D3 coach has it much easier.