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Boston Universtiy 2011-2012 Part IV: Dont stop fighting til the fight is done!

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Re: Boston Universtiy 2011-2012 Part IV: Dont stop fighting til the fight is done!

A few details emerge:
- One alleged victim
- Alleged victim was transported to hospital (potentially evaluated for signs of rape)
- Max has been released on bail and everyone has been nice enough to move him to a new dorm so he can avoid the alleged victim. He's going to be a popular guy in class these next few weeks I bet
- Potential dorm surveillance video as evidence


http://www.bostonherald.com/news/re...nnocent_to_2_rape_counts/srvc=home&position=0

Boston University hockey player Max Nicastro, 21, was set free today on $10,000 bail after pleading not guilty in Brighton District Court to two counts of rape from what prosecutors said was an on-campus sex assault of a fellow student early Sunday.

Nicastro was ordered to stay away from the alleged victim and prosecutor Gloriann Moroney said the university has moved him to a different dorm so there is no concern of the hockey player and the alleged female victim being in the same building.

Police said they were called to the BU campus early Sunday to find an “upset and tearful” woman saying she had been raped on campus by Nicastro, said Moroney. The prosecutor said the alleged victim was sent to the hospital and has since been released.


Nicastro’s lawyer, Hugh Curran, said his client is a business administration major who has “every intention” of returning to BU and plans to remain on campus and take courses this summer. Nicastro is from Thousand Oaks, Calif.

Curran said there was not a “criminal act” Sunday night. A woman believed to be Nicastro’s mother was also in the courtroom. She was escorted out of the courthouse by an unidentified man who told reporters she would have no comment.

During the arraignment, Nicastro was handcuffed and attempted to cover his face with a legal pad.

Judge Franco Gobourne impounded the police report at the request of the prosecutor and later impounded a motion by Curran to preserve evidence, including what he said was dorm surveillance video.

Nicastro is due back in court March 26. The Terriers defenseman suspended from the hockey team pending the university’s own investigation and could face further disciplinary action by the school.
 
Re: Boston Universtiy 2011-2012 Part IV: Dont stop fighting til the fight is done!

Surveillance cameras would only show what was going on in the lobbies and in the elevator. As far as I remember, in that building there are no surveillance cameras on the floors in the hallways and certainly not in the apartments. There are no communal bathrooms or anything there either. I would guess she was transported to the hospital to get a rape kit done.
 
Re: Boston Universtiy 2011-2012 Part IV: Dont stop fighting til the fight is done!

Not exactly the best comparison. Kariya went to the NHL. Coyle went to the Q.
Either way, Coyle thought it was his best move to further his career. Why shouldn't he do it if thats the way he feels?
 
Yeah, he can't go home. But there are 3.8 million sq miles he can go without enduring the financial burden of paying interest on a 5 figure loan, unlike the US citizen. I guess if it achieves its intended purpose its fine, just doesnt seem entirely fair to me.

Max had to turn in his Cuban passport
 
Re: Boston Universtiy 2011-2012 Part IV: Dont stop fighting til the fight is done!

Either way, Coyle thought it was his best move to further his career. Why shouldn't he do it if thats the way he feels?

Kariya had 100 Points as an 18 year old. How many did Coyle have? Kariya was a super star on Olympic team, Coyle was top 6 on WJC

Laughable to compare the two
 
Re: Boston Universtiy 2011-2012 Part IV: Dont stop fighting til the fight is done!

Kariya had 100 Points as an 18 year old. How many did Coyle have? Kariya was a super star on Olympic team, Coyle was top 6 on WJC

Laughable to compare the two
According to JD it doesn't matter as no one should leave their team in the middle of the season, PERIOD
 
Re: Boston Universtiy 2011-2012 Part IV: Dont stop fighting til the fight is done!

Either way, Coyle thought it was his best move to further his career. Why shouldn't he do it if thats the way he feels?

If anyone now has any doubt as to why coyle left...Yes he was not a fan of the books...but he was equally and much greater not a fan of all the extracuricular nonsense that went on outside of hockey.. He rarely participated in after game get togethers and was often treated as an outsider for doing so... Anyone that knows him knows he is an incredibly grounded down to earth id dare say "old fashioned" young man.......
 
Re: Boston Universtiy 2011-2012 Part IV: Dont stop fighting til the fight is done!

If anyone now has any doubt as to why coyle left...Yes he was not a fan of the books...but he was equally and much greater not a fan of all the extracuricular nonsense that went on outside of hockey.. He rarely participated in after game get togethers and was often treated as an outsider for doing so... Anyone that knows him knows he is an incredibly grounded down to earth id dare say "old fashioned" young man.......

Plus the reported $200,000 he was offered by St. John. I'm sure that helped sway things a bit.
 
Re: Boston Universtiy 2011-2012 Part IV: Dont stop fighting til the fight is done!

If anyone now has any doubt as to why coyle left...Yes he was not a fan of the books...but he was equally and much greater not a fan of all the extracuricular nonsense that went on outside of hockey.. He rarely participated in after game get togethers and was often treated as an outsider for doing so... Anyone that knows him knows he is an incredibly grounded down to earth id dare say "old fashioned" young man.......

I can see that... but won't he see a lot of that extracuricular nonsense in the Q too? Kudos to him as a person if he is steering clear of the over partying scene.
 
Re: Boston Universtiy 2011-2012 Part IV: Dont stop fighting til the fight is done!

So is he only suspended from the hockey team? And not from school as well?
 
Re: Boston Universtiy 2011-2012 Part IV: Dont stop fighting til the fight is done!

2) They are idiots. Basically, you're going from a small percentage chance that even though you're guilty as sin that you'll be found innocent versus pleading guilty and changing the percentage down to 0. Why ever plead guilty if you're going to get jail/prison time.

I guess my point is in the rare case where a guilty person wanted to plead guilty because they feel they deserve whatever comes there way, I would not classify that person as an idiot.

Either way, Coyle thought it was his best move to further his career. Why shouldn't he do it if thats the way he feels?

According to JD it doesn't matter as no one should leave their team in the middle of the season, PERIOD

Easy there, walrus. I know you love reveling in the good old days when Maine hockey was relevant, but let's try not to go back 15-20 years when we can just discuss Coyle. In case you haven't noticed (you probably haven't), there are plenty of BU fans who think Coyle quit on the team. It ain't just me. When you make a commitment to a team, I think it is wrong to leave during the season. I don't care who the player is.

If anyone now has any doubt as to why coyle left...Yes he was not a fan of the books...but he was equally and much greater not a fan of all the extracuricular nonsense that went on outside of hockey.. He rarely participated in after game get togethers and was often treated as an outsider for doing so... Anyone that knows him knows he is an incredibly grounded down to earth id dare say "old fashioned" young man.......

I don't know him and don't doubt anything you're saying. I still think he should have completed the year at BU. If he wasn't going to be academically eligible...shame on him.
 
Re: Boston Universtiy 2011-2012 Part IV: Dont stop fighting til the fight is done!

So is he only suspended from the hockey team? And not from school as well?

Is that surprising? Remember: 21 cases of sexual assault = 0 expulsions.
 
Re: Boston Universtiy 2011-2012 Part IV: Dont stop fighting til the fight is done!

Easy there, walrus. I know you love reveling in the good old days when Maine hockey was relevant, but let's try not to go back 15-20 years when we can just discuss Coyle. In case you haven't noticed (you probably haven't), there are plenty of BU fans who think Coyle quit on the team. It ain't just me. When you make a commitment to a team, I think it is wrong to leave during the season. I don't care who the player is..

So it was wrong for Kariya to leave? Great little black and white world you have there, trying stepping out in the real world where there are shades of gray
 
Re: Boston Universtiy 2011-2012 Part IV: Dont stop fighting til the fight is done!

What is it that you don't understand about me not caring who the player is? But once again, ya, let's turn this into a discussion about Paul Kariya during your glory days. Fool.
 
I guess my point is in the rare case where a guilty person wanted to plead guilty because they feel they deserve whatever comes there way, I would not classify that person as an idiot.

I'm not an attorney, but I've worked in law firms, and know lawyers well. Generally, you negotiate and plead guilty to a lesser charge. Except in high-profile cases, both sides would rather see things done quickly. There are a few reasons why lawyers don't want to go to trial. If you want to know why, I can go into more detail.

Not sure if TBA is criminal defense attorney, so I don't know where he stands.
 
Re: Boston Universtiy 2011-2012 Part IV: Dont stop fighting til the fight is done!

No, it's pathetic. And with all the security -- blue boxes, escort services, etc. -- BU can't protect inside the dorms? I don't know what to say about that

Almost surprising that no one has mentioned the peeping tom creeping into BU bathroom shower stalls and putting their camera phones underneath the stalls into the ones next door to record video of girls showering. Apparently the 3rd such incident was reported this weekend at Warren Towers (first two incidents I believe were West campus). They might even be separate people since I think one reported seeing a Blackberry and another reported seeing an iphone.

BU has to make a statement that this is a safe place for people (females) to be students. Catch these *****s and hang them up by their nuts. If you don't expel them, make them knock on the doors of all of the people in their dorms to notify them that there is a 'sex offender' living in their dorms. Start a 'sex offender' site on BU's website for everyone to see if they want to remain at school. Do something.

The station I was watching did a Nicastro/peeping tom double story back to back on their broadcast this weekend. Not good for the school's image.
 
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Re: Boston Universtiy 2011-2012 Part IV: Dont stop fighting til the fight is done!

As someone who took several criminal justice courses as electives, most sexual assaults occur with suspect and victims that are known to each other. It is entirely possible that in some of the 21 cases, the victim let the suspect in to the dorm room. Not sure what BU could do to prevent something like that. Maybe the victim was OK with being with the suspect, but not taking it to the next level. Not all rapes are with suspects forcing victim alone. I would further suggest that I'd bet with almost certainty that Nicastro and victim knew each other.
 
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