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Boston University 2011 Offseason

Re: Boston University 2011 Offseason

Things are just way to boring in the offseason.

Since classes have started, can't Jack Parker go find one of his players in the library and clean out their locker unexpectedly? :D
 
Nick Papagiorgio said:
Well, this is fun, now isn't it?

Basically, we had everyone reaffirm what we already knew about them.

Hokydad is right on the money (as usual).
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Yup. Let us reaffirm what we knew about me:
Strikingly handsome
Documented genius
Gracious to a fault
Crack money golfer
Impeccably dressed
Tasteful
Debonair
Courteous
Worldly ambassador
Lazy to a fault
Friend of all
:D
 
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Brian Gentry said:
It is "fairest" because those years conveniently coincides when BU had their worst teams since the 80's. :rolleyes:
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"Those years"? I chose one season to start with. Perhaps you forget how dominant BU was that year.

Brian Gentry said:
You are the one who asked for the information. Now that the info you got doesn't support the contention that you thought it would, you are pizzing in everyone's Cheerios??

J.D. is soiling the BU thread so the season must be starting soon! :)
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Gentry, can you read? I still haven't received the information in regard to the question I asked. I received information for questions I didn't ask, but that's par for the course on a message board. I couldn't resist responding to the "all is well" Terrier fans like HC and HD. And I'll be sure to call you out whenever you make a post in any thread other than this one.
 
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JD--- when you chimed in the talk was on HtH. You typed what it would be since grandpie was "good" and discounted beanpots and typed how Hea tourney and NCAA tourney were important. We know how NCAAs tally. I didnt know how Hea went off the top of my head, so I looked quickly and shared. If you had something else in your head as a part of the discussion, you shouldn't have kept that to yourself... Play fair!!!
 
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Which is fair!

If original jd can have a question in hand but not ask it, it's only fair that Sean can have the answer but not share as well :p
 
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While Hokyman made some valid points,--and there is no argument that over the past 13 years, York’s teams have produced significantly superior results than Parker’s--he’s strayed off the reality ranch regarding both coaches’ early years behind the bench. Intentionally done to support his argument? Perhaps; it wouldn’t be the first time.

Seeing that BU had just won back to back national championships in 1972 and 1973...
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When Parker replaced Leon Abbott six games into the 73-74 season, he took over a very talented team, but it had virtually no connections to the back-to-back national champions of ’71 and ’72. Not one guy from the everyday lineup of the NC teams was left. Moreover, BU had lost four of the top five scorers from the 72-73 season, including a sophomore 35-goal scorer, as well as offensively prolific Decloe. With teams Parker largely built, BU won four straight ECAC titles and went to five straight final fours, finally winning in 1978. BU’s success under Jack Kelley was certainly a springboard for Parker’s achievements, but as the brokerage houses say "Past performance is no guarantee of future success."

York was at inferior programs, Clarkson and BG
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When Jerry began his head coaching career roughly a year before Jack did, he also took over the reigns of an elite and feared program, Clarkson. Don’t think so? In the eleven Ceglarski years before York became head coach, Clarkson reached the NCAAs (only 4 teams back then) four times, making the championship game three times. Had BU not beaten Cornell in the 1971 ECAC consolation, Clarkson would have been in the NCAAs a fifth time. Even before Ceglarski, Clarkson was an elite program, traditionally building strong teams with kids from Ontario and Quebec. In York’s seven seasons in Potsdam, Clarkson, which had some great talent like Dave Taylor, Bill Blackwood and Brian Shields, didn’t go the NCAAs once nor did it win the ECAC tournament. In 1977, the one time Clarkson won the regular season title under York, it lost in the ECAC semis, 7-6, when BU scored three times in the final 3:57.

no matter who took over BU, they would have at least won 3 and probably more national championships
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A beyond-ridiculous—and self-serving—statement, which I doubt he really believes. Top-notch programs (in any sport) don’t self-perpetuate. Denver won 4 NCAA titles in the 60s, then went 35 years without a title.

NCAA titles aren’t the sole measures of highly successful programs or coaches. Parker’s teams have gone to 13 Final/Frozen Fours and 6 NC games. I’d imagine there are similar or maybe even better numbers for York.
 
Nick Papagiorgio said:
Does York get extra credit for the margin of victory? I mean, that was a beatdown. Give him 1.5 wins for that one with the weight/importance and margin of victory being so big? :D
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Gee nick, I can't recall one single detail of that night....

("KEVIN!!!" :()
(( worst BU loss in my 25+ years of following the team))
 
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J.D. said:
I couldn't resist responding to the "all is well" Terrier fans like HC and HD. And I'll be sure to call you out whenever you make a post in any thread other than this one.
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We are all glad you are here J.D. so you can "set us straight" whenever it is needed.
 
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mookie1995 said:
(( worst BU loss in my 25+ years of following the team))
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I can't put it ahead of 9-1. Sure, we had beaten BC, what, 5 times that year? But each game was closer than the last, with the HE title game going to OT. That was a very good BC team, and once Kevin Schaefer handed Boyle the puck on a platter to go down 1-0, it was all downhill.

9-1 seemed like a true missed opportunity, as silly as that sounds given the score. But LSSU needed 3 OT wins just to get to that game (not to mention a first round very questionable win over Northeastern), and BU shot themselves in the foot with penalty after penalty. We also hit the post (Bob Lachance I think) in the first minute...)
 
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Those losses ended up being , "eh, well too bad but we'll win next year".
The Worcester loss was "JFC we will never win again!!!"

-plus it was against dirty play grampie Jerry "hey Brian, go yell at schaeffer like you're his teammate and he'll pass to you! We cant beat them straight up!!". Then they dove the entire last three minutes. ;)

:D :D :D
 
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mookie1995 said:
Yup. Let us reaffirm what we knew about me:
Strikingly handsome
Documented genius
Gracious to a fault
Crack money golfer
Impeccably dressed
Tasteful
Debonair
Courteous
Worldly ambassador
Lazy to a fault
Friend of all
:D
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"He lives vicariously through himself. Sharks have a week named after him. If he patted you on your back, you'd put it on your resume. He is the life of parties that he doesn't even attend. He is.......the most interesting poster on this board!"
 
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JP and JY are 2 of the 3 winningest college coaches of all time. Both produce elite players in high numbers, and have won championships at every level prodigiously. How is it not obvious to all but those with a grudge or some bizarre personal animus that they are basically on the same level: the elite of their sport?

Ask the GM of the LA Kings if he think JP is some big step below JY in coaching skill.

Anyway, here is my last word on this silly discussion: JP vs. JY H2H at their alma maters:

BU 34 wins BC 33 wins 7 Ties

Even if you control for the 4 BU wins in JY first year (why does JY get 3 years, other than it helps someone’s argument), it is still BU 30 BC 33 7 Ties.

I already went through conference titles and Mookie listed H2H in tournament play.

There both super good, and for all intents and purposes practically even.

JD, I’m not trying to come at you, was mainly responding to HockeyDad’s unsupported assertions. The numbers are what they are. You’re a BC fan, so you should love JY. I’d love him if he were at BU. But Parker is at his level.

I’m not even saying that I don’t think it’s time for new blood behind the BU bench. It may be, of course I thought that going into the last NC year.

Also, can’t help myself from defending one thing I said earlier:

J.D. said:
So many people have argued that it's "totally without meaning"? You must be talking about fans of schools outside Boston...
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J.D. said:
Hockey East Tournament and NCAA Tournament results far outweigh Beanpot results. Compared to the other two, the Beanpot is undoubtedly irrelevant.
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How else should I have read this? I usually interpret “undoubtedly irrelevant” to be similar to “totally without meaning”. ;)
 
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