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2024 Elections: One Last Chance for Democracy

RaceBoarder said:
As a whole, Mookie has a point about the "economy".

Look at the make up of the board here:

- Only two regulars here that I can think of DON'T own a home
- I'd bet more than a few (30-40% ?) make well into the six-figures as a household (or are living at an equivalent economic status internationally)
- You easily support yourself AND kids
- Vacations/Travel (many international) are regular thing
- Y'all have retirement funds established

I've brought this point up many times over the past 3-4 years and I just get talked over. Just saying "corporate greed!!!11!1" doesn't make the situation better while you continuously flaunt the "great" economy numbers. Eventually when you do that enough, you will tick off whomever you are speaking to. As a whole, the board talks down to people who don't have money.

This is a real thing.
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Good post, the economy never even fully recovered from the 2008 financial crisis and the economy that people like me got sold in the 90's (go to college and you can easily own a home) never got close to being realized for most people. Meanwhile you have states like MO voting for Trump AND a $15 min wage as well as codifying abortion into law, something the democrats had zero interest in doing for the last 50 years.
 
Whalers said:
The correct answer moving forward is nominating better democrat women candidates. One that is much stronger, maybe you could say, has a set of balls. A few who come to mind;

- Rachel Levine
- Lia Thomas
- Sam Brinton

Have to rule out Caitlyn Jenner, already taken. Cant have any women around like. Its almost like she is a man.
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Actually, lets put the thinking cap on. Need to find a REAL strong woman. Someone like Margaret Thatcher, yeah that would work. Or maybe Condie Rice?

As a Democrat woman friend (an XX woman) said yesterday - Let's worry about what is between the ears, not what is between the legs. Or did she actually say that the other way around?
 
dxmnkd316 said:
This is my only hope. That we're all plunged into global depression and we light that anger on fire. It's going to kill a lot of people, but probably less than nazis in power forever.

The problem is, it could backfire and create the second holocaust. People get really stupid when they can't eat.
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One good thing that will come out of this is that the wars in the middle east and the Ukraine will end on January 21 with fair and just outcomes.
 
aparch said:
It absolutely floors me every time I see trades people or blue collar workers supporting Pervert Hoover. This man openly *brags* about not paying contractors their fair share or only hiring the cheapest fly-by-night people to evade building codes. And they *celebrate* him?!

Continually watching people vote for the Party of Leopards Eating People's Faces while complaining about the leopards that eat people's faces is infuriating.
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The only way any of this changes is if there is an economic collapse. Like one that would make 1929 look like a blip. Real suffering is the only possible way to change things. The sad part is people like me would have to suffer as well.
 
Jimjamesak said:
One major takeaway from this election is that we can truly bury all this “Gen Z will save us” talk. The truth is they’re helping bury it.
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I think it’s hard for older people to appreciate how tough their situation is if they’re not from an affluent family. I don’t think either party is doing anywhere close to enough to help them.
 
Jimjamesak said:
...Real suffering is the only possible way to change things. The sad part is people like me would have to suffer as well.
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You and me both. My career is built upon the Infratructure act, and my wife's career sits atop Medicare/Medicaid. 71 Million people told us both to go f*ck ourselves, the promise of "cheap gas" is more important than us being employed.
 
French Rage said:
Assuming they get their crazy (economic) ideas passed. Last time it was basically continuing to let the Obama expansion run out of steam until everything went to hell due to their own incompetence. And trying to boost it with a tax cut that didn't but did make the deficit much much worse. Though they time they promised to be better organized, so we'll have to see.
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If anything is to actually change long term those crazy have to be implemented and everything has to fail and fail hard. Otherwise we’ll be stuck in this endless cycle of Rs messing things up, Ds try to fix it and get blamed for everything, Rs get elected to mess things up.
 
Conspiracy people are already trying to go back and claim 2020 was fraudulent (again!). Tons of posts about vote totals because people don’t get there are still ~10 million votes left in areas where she’s winning 60%+. Yeah, she got less than Biden, but there isn’t a missing 13 million people. If the NBC numbers are correct there’s currently around 10 million outstanding votes to be counted in areas she’s winning 60/40.
 
French Rage said:
Trump's also currently below his 2020 level. Were his votes in 2020 fraudulent too?
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There is currently a 2.5 million difference and that will shrink.


Don't be dumb, DumbAss

69,498,516 - Obama
65,915,795 - Obama
65,853,514 - Clinton
81,283,501 - Biden
66,415,077 - Harris
 
When times get tough just remember to buckle down and get another Covid Shot. Have to be vigilant and remember the most common symptom is no symptoms at all.
 
This trans girl is horrified, but hopeful. Hope is "not some beautiful bird, Emily, it's a sewer rat."

No plans to Order 66 myself.

i refuse to throw away my sobriety over this.

I have like $6 in my bank account right now, so i can't move.

If they come for me, I die knowing I was true to myself to the brutal and fatal end.

All I can really do is shine on.
 
Timothy A said:
Who would be coming for you?
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Nobody, of course. And quite frankly no one cares.

People are made pawns and conquered by the State/Large Corp all under the guise of the "movement." When in reality they are being used to grow the State & its Bureaucracy. If you are aligned with the biggest government in the history of the world that does its bidding with large industry, sorry you aren't part of any "movement."
 
Jeb2020 said:
Nobody, of course. And quite frankly no one cares.

People are made pawns and conquered by the State/Large Corp all under the guise of the "movement." When in reality they are being used to grow the State & its Bureaucracy. If you are aligned with the biggest government in the history of the world that does its bidding with large industry, sorry you aren't part of any "movement."
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and yet a promise was made to keep spending insane amounts on the military when no army/navy/Air Force has even considered attacking the country for 200 years :cool:

bigger and bigger and bigger she grows $$$$$$$
 
It’s like a third tier consolation since Republicans took back the state house and flipped a National house seat, but at least Slotkin is going to win the senate in MI.
 
mookie1995 said:
and yet a promise was made to keep spending insane amounts on the military when no army/navy/Air Force has even considered attacking the country for 200 years :cool:

bigger and bigger and bigger she grows $$$$$$$
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Absolutely, correct. There are no boundaries.

The goal is to divide & conquer and make you hate your neighbor who you will have much more in common with than any politician and/or bureaucrat. And of course never question the institutions themselves but actually beg for more when you get your crack every 4 years or so.
 
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