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2024 Elections: One Last Chance for Democracy

Donnie's not in office yet.

You can bet rounding up and deporting all the illegals that grow and harvest your fruits and veggies, and the 100% tariffs on everything imported won't have any effect at all on prices of stuff.

no no no! Our president promised us that prices will fall!! These things you mentioned are fake news. Prices will fall, and people best start early lowering prices or they will be jailed! :mad:
 
Donnie's not in office yet.

You can bet rounding up and deporting all the illegals that grow and harvest your fruits and veggies, and the 100% tariffs on everything imported won't have any effect at all on prices of stuff.

This is my only hope. That we're all plunged into global depression and we light that anger on fire. It's going to kill a lot of people, but probably less than nazis in power forever.

The problem is, it could backfire and create the second holocaust. People get really stupid when they can't eat.
 
As a whole, Mookie has a point about the "economy".

Look at the make up of the board here:

- Only two regulars here that I can think of DON'T own a home
- I'd bet more than a few (30-40% ?) make well into the six-figures as a household (or are living at an equivalent economic status internationally)
- You easily support yourself AND kids
- Vacations/Travel (many international) are regular thing
- Y'all have retirement funds established

I've brought this point up many times over the past 3-4 years and I just get talked over. Just saying "corporate greed!!!11!1" doesn't make the situation better while you continuously flaunt the "great" economy numbers. Eventually when you do that enough, you will tick off whomever you are speaking to. As a whole, the board talks down to people who don't have money.

This is a real thing.
 
This is my only hope. That we're all plunged into global depression and we light that anger on fire. It's going to kill a lot of people, but probably less than nazis in power forever.

The problem is, it could backfire and create the second holocaust. People get really stupid when they can't eat.

Elon said there's gonna be hardship.

Mind you, not hardship for people like he and Donnie. But for everyone else.........

We'll, this is what they wanted. This is what they voted for.
 
This is my only hope. That we're all plunged into global depression and we light that anger on fire. It's going to kill a lot of people, but probably less than nazis in power forever.

The problem is, it could backfire and create the second holocaust. People get really stupid when they can't eat.

And you a*ss clowns wonder why you just got your ass handed to you.
 
15 million less votes...what the **** is wrong with us...

This is what I don't get. So apparently the majority of people waiting in those lines voted for him? Looked like turnout was high, which should have favored her.

When the bad stuff starts happening to people (deportations, super high prices), I will just sit back and laugh at his supporters who will be affected.
 
This is what I don't get. So apparently the majority of people waiting in those lines voted for him? Looked like turnout was high, which should have favored her.

When the bad stuff starts happening to people (deportations, super high prices), I will just sit back and laugh at his supporters who will be affected.

Biden didn't get that many votes. Start there.

69,498,516 - Obama
65,915,795 - Obama
65,853,514 - Clinton
81,283,501 - Biden
66,415,077 - Harris
 
This is what I don't get. So apparently the majority of people waiting in those lines voted for him? Looked like turnout was high, which should have favored her.

When the bad stuff starts happening to people (deportations, super high prices), I will just sit back and laugh at his supporters who will be affected.

The demographic shift in the electorate over the last 12 years means high propensity voters - college educated especially- are solidly blue, while Trump kills with low propensity voters - young men and non-college educated men especially.

While Dems are on the morally right side encouraging everyone to vote, this isn't 20 years ago where getting that union plumber or nurse to vote is a guaranteed vote for them, especially when Trump is on the ballot. High turnout is no longer a guaranteed good thing for the Dems.

Thankfully, that enthusiasm hasn't yet carried over into elections where he isn't on the ballot, hence the lack of a red wave 2 years ago because the people that only vote in presidential elections didn't turn out. But we'll see if that holds going forward.
 
While Dems are on the morally right side encouraging everyone to vote, this isn't 20 years ago where getting that union plumber or nurse to vote is a guaranteed vote for them, especially when Trump is on the ballot. High turnout is no longer a guaranteed good thing for the Dems.

It absolutely floors me every time I see trades people or blue collar workers supporting Pervert Hoover. This man openly *brags* about not paying contractors their fair share or only hiring the cheapest fly-by-night people to evade building codes. And they *celebrate* him?!

Continually watching people vote for the Party of Leopards Eating People's Faces while complaining about the leopards that eat people's faces is infuriating.
 
This is what I don't get. So apparently the majority of people waiting in those lines voted for him? Looked like turnout was high, which should have favored her.

When the bad stuff starts happening to people (deportations, super high prices), I will just sit back and laugh at his supporters who will be affected.

Biden didn't get that many votes. Start there.

69,498,516 - Obama
65,915,795 - Obama
65,853,514 - Clinton
81,283,501 - Biden
66,415,077 - Harris
 
It absolutely floors me every time I see trades people or blue collar workers supporting Pervert Hoover. This man openly *brags* about not paying contractors their fair share or only hiring the cheapest fly-by-night people to evade building codes. And they *celebrate* him?!

Continually watching people vote for the Party of Leopards Eating People's Faces while complaining about the leopards that eat people's faces is infuriating.

Shut up.

Enjoy your complete ass beating & an absolute epic ass beating it was.
 
I feel so helpless right now.

My daughter is queer and I’m scared she’ll be forcibly removed from my wife and I. My only hope is she’ll be 16 in April and maybe she’ll have agency. I doubt it though.

Hang in there Jim. Unless you live in Loudon County VA, Cambridge or Berkley, you only have to worry about this for another 10 weeks. If you DO live in those places, better move so this doesnt happen to your daughter/son. They will be safe in most other places after Jan 20th.
 
This is what I don't get. So apparently the majority of people waiting in those lines voted for him? Looked like turnout was high, which should have favored her.

When the bad stuff starts happening to people (deportations, super high prices), I will just sit back and laugh at his supporters who will be affected.
Hearing people talk at work today, a lot of them are confident that the guardrails of democracy will keep things in check.

I said that they are fools.
 
Oh, blow it out your ***. If you want to pretend the two are equivalent, let's start with the fact no one here is claiming the election was rigged, fraudulent, or threatening to storm the capital on January 6th.

But hey, your ideological purity allows you to gloat about this country putting a literal wannabe dictator in office. Good for you, you sanctimonious twat.
Yeah my one vote in MN is why your trash candidate won't even win the popular vote, keep coping and forcing terrible right wing candidates on people it seems to be working LOLOLOL. Maybe try Hillary again or even Liz Cheney next time!
 
It’s not the economy. It’s grocery bills of dumb ****s who are too stupid to even know what an economy is.

Biden did a masterful job of propping up businesses to get to a legit soft landing from the COVID recovery, but there’s no way you can explain that on the campaign trail. In a world of educated voters, Biden/Harris would have won on the economy alone.
HAHAAHAHHAHAHA you actually believe this
 
I agree with the beginning and the end, but not sure on the middle. Yeah they took an awful route getting to Harris, but once they got there it felt like the had a good candidate and good momentum going, and I don't know which other candidate would have done better; granted I can't predict what didn't occur so who knows there? If people were honestly this upset about inflation that occurred everywhere but was less worse in the US, and was at its worst in 2021 and then went down every year since to 2% today, and decided based on that that it was due to the current administration and the best way to solve it (even though it's down to 2% now) is to raise tariffs to 600%, well then I don't know if any candidate was going to disabuse them of that notion.

I mean she ran in 2020 and didn’t even make it to Iowa. Doesn’t that say a lot? Primaries show who can connect with voters and help candidates build momentum.
 
Yeah, it's not that she is a woman of color. It's that she's a woman. Misogyny is alive and well in this country. I said previously I thought it knocked a point off the top line for her (and Hillary), I'm thinking now it's more like 3.

The correct answer moving forward is nominating better democrat women candidates. One that is much stronger, maybe you could say, has a set of balls. A few who come to mind;

- Rachel Levine
- Lia Thomas
- Sam Brinton

Have to rule out Caitlyn Jenner, already taken. Cant have any women around like. Its almost like she is a man.
 
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