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2024 Election Thread
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Deutsche Gopher Fan
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That was amazing! The three armed man
Handyman
Hug someone you care about...
I almost spit out my drink at the airport when I saw it!
Also...Fox polling has Biden at 50% against Trump up 3 points from December.
FadeToBlack&Gold
8647
In Dearborn? If you think the protesters in Palo Alto were unhinged, imagine the reception he'd get in the largest Islamic community in the US.
Deutsche Gopher Fan
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I’m aware. I’m saying he should have been attempting to listen to those communities before they had a chance to launch their unhinged campaigns against him. He has an incredible ability to listen with empathy.
Some women have been turned away from recent campaign events and made a fuss- turns out they’re women who have been disrupting and ruining all kinds of events so ya, now they’re banned
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mookie1995
there's a good buck in that racket.
Ds had the house and senate.
it isn’t D v R.
it’s rich vs poor.
if you ain’t rich you’re poor.
every pol is rich
WeAreNDHockey
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But isn't this the way most voters have seen most presidential elections for a long time now? And I'm sorry but elections like 1992 or 2008 or most of the ones in my lifetime may have been a choice between "the lesser of two evils" but for the last 3 cycles now the choice has not been the lesser of two evils. It has been a choice between an actual traitor in every sense of the word as it pertains to American government and the ideals of this country, and someone who doesn't quite have all of the interests in the average American as their most important tasks.
I'd vote for some of you on this forum if it was a choice between you and Joe Biden (or Hilary Clinton). But none of you are running are you. The notion that anyone out there who is a woman, a racial, ethnic or religious minority, a working or middle class wage earner, a young person, a person with an emotional or physical difficulty, a person who believes in the potential of people, or pretty much anyone who isn't a bigoted, racist RICH white male could vote for anyone BUT Joe Biden this time around is nonsense. We live in a world where we often have very few choices. At least we have this one. Americans who DON'T see this are being willfully blind. Or they are racist white males. It's hard for me to have sympathy for any of them. In fact at some point its hard for me to see them as anything BUT the enemy.
FadeToBlack&Gold
8647
I see your point. He should at least try, even if it's Tlaib Territory.
Correct. Sort of like buying a CR-V with a loan to cover 48.5% of the cost, when the Accord was only a 2017. And the stock market is at an all time high. And unemployment is the lowest in the history of mankind. And you have a Doctor wife and more intelligence in your little keyboard finger than the rest of us combined.
Jimjamesak
Already insane, UAA making it worse
In my defense, this is only the second presidential election I’m legally allowed to run in…
The real cause of it is that people don't want to work, and furthermore, don't think they should have to work. There is a college hockey forum with an entire thread dedicated to that theme.
You spend the first 20 years of your life, minimum, as a freeloader in society. Now everyone thinks that they should be able to just quit contributing at 60 and spend the last 25 years of their life as a freeloader.
I have an idea for you. If you don't have any money, go get a job. Someone will pay you to work for them. All we're doing is adding available jobs for people in this country. Stop whining.
Handyman
Hug someone you care about...
That is rather simplistic but not totally wrong. As I said The Boomers never saved for a rainy day and that is why people like my dad have to work along with collecting SS.
I work 3 jobs so I can live the life I lead and hopefully retire at a decent age.
I think the youth have no problem working...they just value themselves higher than most of us did. We were half with what we could get the people hiring controlled the game. That has shifted.
We are creeping back to a good foundation for a Middle Class...but there is work to be done. The problem is one party has no inclination to actually want to make any meaningful change.
And sorry Mookie but you are wrong.
I work 3 jobs so I can live the life I lead and hopefully retire at a decent age.
I think the youth have no problem working...they just value themselves higher than most of us did. We were half with what we could get the people hiring controlled the game. That has shifted.
We are creeping back to a good foundation for a Middle Class...but there is work to be done. The problem is one party has no inclination to actually want to make any meaningful change.
And sorry Mookie but you are wrong.
MissThundercat
Are the cis okay?
I won't be waving a foam #1 finger for Joe any time soon.
But as a queer, let's just say I'd rather deal with seasonal cold/flu/allergies than stage 4 lung cancer.
FadeToBlack&Gold
8647
"No one wants to work" is lazy and reflexive, so it's exactly what I've come to expect from the right. You guys desperately need some new material.
I'm probably just getting cranky over it because I'm in my 60's, and candidly, getting real tired of people asking me, "so, when are you going to retire?"
Financially, could I quit and just live off of what I've saved? Sure. But I'm in good health. I don't wear glasses. I don't have hearing aids. I don't take any medications. All of my joints still work fine.
My wife and I are close friends with a couple that live just a few houses away. He retired from his corporate job about two years ago, and now, as the only member of the four of us still working, all I ever hear is "why don't you retire."
In the summer, he gets up and plays golf with the same three people he played with yesterday. Then I see him come home and wander around his yard picking up small branches that fell off his oak trees overnight. Then he spends two hours washing and detailing his car, for the third time that week.
FFS, how absolutely useless is that life?
I'm still consuming products on this planet. I'm eating food produced by society. I'm drinking clean water produced by society, and driving on roads maintained by society. I see no reason why I shouldn't grab a hold of an oar and keep the boat moving forward.
It really annoys me when people think there is some sort of god-given privilege to sit around and do nothing (not that you are doing it yourself).
RaceBoarder
Waiting for the Snow to fly...
But at the same time, you have a ton of experienced people take on "consulting" roles after 50 that don't open up positions for people in their 20s-30s-40s. The workforce is currently top-heavy...
Not saying that you need to automatically step away on your 60th birthday. But staying on so you can have $2.3mil in your retirement account instead of $1.9 is a major problem.
You can always pick up a part time shift or two in a service job if you truly are bored.
Almost sounds like a Republican. Kepler, when are you going to block this person so you dont have to see or hear such blasphemy?
Should we now have a planned economy with a forced retirement age? Warren Buffet is 93, so he should have been kicked to the curb at what age? Not sure the investors in his firm would have been too keen on that idea. Bill Gates is 68, let us know what we should do with him to free up a spot in tech for someone younger.
FadeToBlack&Gold
8647
Some people don't know what to do with themselves. As long as they enjoy it, those people should probably work until society won't employ them anymore. It keeps them sane, purposeful, and out of trouble.
My grandfather worked until he was 75. The City of Naples (FL) had to practically shove him out the door, presumably so that they could hire some young, recent CivE grad who just passed the FE exam for considerably less than they were paying him. He did OK for a little while (keeping up their homes, building and selling a spec house), but work pretty much was his social life and boredom + advancing age quickly set in. I've observed that he's been depressed for a long time, even since before my grandma's dementia diagnosis and death, but he's of a generation that won't seek help for that stuff. He can't hear and has refused to seek hearing aids for decades. He was asked to leave an assisted living facility because he was a problem to some of the staff. Unfortunately he's also taken a shine to playing the victim card. Other than the fact that at age 89 he's outlived most of their friends (whom he hasn't directly communicated with in years anyway), he has no one to blame but himself for the situation he's in.
OTOH, my dad exited his non-profit in early 2016, then did a bunch of traveling with my mom for a few years. This past fall, he picked up a part-time tutoring gig in one of the local school districts to keep busy. He's doing pretty well for now, but he's only 66. Time will tell.
My grandfather worked until he was 75. The City of Naples (FL) had to practically shove him out the door, presumably so that they could hire some young, recent CivE grad who just passed the FE exam for considerably less than they were paying him. He did OK for a little while (keeping up their homes, building and selling a spec house), but work pretty much was his social life and boredom + advancing age quickly set in. I've observed that he's been depressed for a long time, even since before my grandma's dementia diagnosis and death, but he's of a generation that won't seek help for that stuff. He can't hear and has refused to seek hearing aids for decades. He was asked to leave an assisted living facility because he was a problem to some of the staff. Unfortunately he's also taken a shine to playing the victim card. Other than the fact that at age 89 he's outlived most of their friends (whom he hasn't directly communicated with in years anyway), he has no one to blame but himself for the situation he's in.
OTOH, my dad exited his non-profit in early 2016, then did a bunch of traveling with my mom for a few years. This past fall, he picked up a part-time tutoring gig in one of the local school districts to keep busy. He's doing pretty well for now, but he's only 66. Time will tell.
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