What's new
By:
USCHO Fan Forum

This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

  • The USCHO Fan Forum has migrated to a new plaform, xenForo. Most of the function of the forum should work in familiar ways. Please note that you can switch between light and dark modes by clicking on the gear icon in the upper right of the main menu bar. We are hoping that this new platform will prove to be faster and more reliable. Please feel free to explore its features.

2012 Presidential Election 5: Election Day Countdown

Status
Not open for further replies.
Re: 2012 Presidential Election 5: Election Day Countdown

pirate said:
So they are saying there were enough people and or enough volcanic activity to impact global temperatures in the 1700's? I'm viewing on phone so I may be challenged scale wise.

I have no doubt the earth is warming, I am not sure the graphs I just saw prove it is only people causing the change.

As a side note, I did read the articles saying the Antarctic icecap is growing and got a chuckle out of the scientists comments regarding that being perfectly understandable. If the arctic ice reduction is man made global warming and Antarctic ice increase is also global warming does that mean hot air rises 'up' to the northern hemisphere?

;-)
Click to expand...
The only temperatures that come close to levels before 1990 were in about 1000 during the medieval warm period. That period is also around 300 years long. Past 1990 there's nothing that comes close in the past 2000 years and no where does it increase at sharply.

And much like the big bang, it's a failing in the language to describe what is really happening. But climate change doesn't have the same impact as GLOBAL WARMING! Dun dun DUN!


FreshFish said:
There are a variety of astronomic phenomena that could affect the mean global temperature on the earth's surface sufficient to cause global warming or global cooling. If the tilt of the earth's axis changed slightly, a bit more or a bit less of the earth's surface would be exposed at the perigee and abogee of the orbit (we do know from geologic records that the direction of the earth's magnetic field flips every now and then on the geologic time scale). If the sun's rotation around its own axis changed, that could affect how much energy it emits and how much subsequently reaches earth (this one is a bit far-fetched). The elliptical shape of the earth's orbit fluctuates between slightly thinner to slightly rounder on the geologic time scale because of the interaction of the gravitational influence of the other planets, that can change how much energy reaches earth from the sun over geologic time spans.

If any of these or other natural, currently ill-understood, phenomena underly the data we see, can we afford to keep arguing about what caused it to the extent that we fail to take appropriate precautions on how to deal with the consequences?
Click to expand...
Oh noes! No one has ever thought of these things before! Or figured out ways to account for what would such things would do to the environment. If any of those things were actually causing something significant, it would be easily shown and accounted for.
 
Re: 2012 Presidential Election 5: Election Day Countdown

FreshFish said:
I didn't write this:
Click to expand...

Now we're concerned about ensuring disaster aid? The entire conservative movement has no idea where it stands on this issue. Romney's already taken both sides of it (which I spose is like abortion, gun control, gays rights, the environment, bailouts....).
 
Re: 2012 Presidential Election 5: Election Day Countdown

Old Pio said:
Sorry. I'm not allowed to play with children or trolls. And since you're both, you figure it out.
Click to expand...

If you can't play with children or trolls on this board you will end up fondling yourself sooner or later.
 
Re: 2012 Presidential Election 5: Election Day Countdown

Milanovitch cycles?

recorded history is way too short to extrapolate climate change
 
Re: 2012 Presidential Election 5: Election Day Countdown

If we've got nothing to hide, why are we running them off?
 
Re: 2012 Presidential Election 5: Election Day Countdown

huskyfan said:
Milanovitch cycles?

recorded history is way too short to extrapolate climate change
Click to expand...
Well it's a good thing they don't use just recorded human history to extrapolate climate conditions in the past. Or just one method.
 
Re: 2012 Presidential Election 5: Election Day Countdown

burd said:
If you can't play with children or trolls on this board you will end up fondling yourself sooner or later.
Click to expand...

That's just his pathology.

Claims someone else is wrong. Offers no contradictory points. Instead, references a movie or politician from the 60s that no one else remembers. Then says that he doesn't need to a) do someone else's research or b) argue with children or trolls.

Repeat.

He's just the crazy old man at the barbeque like others have called him.

Much like Dubbie, I enjoy pointing out the weaknesses and double standards (hypocrisy) in his stances. They're certainly easy to see.
 
Re: 2012 Presidential Election 5: Election Day Countdown

ScoobyDoo said:
Romney's a lock.

It would be entertaining if he manages to lose though. So much invested in making Obama a one term President. Investments to the point of legislators refusing to do their jobs to insure that happens.
Click to expand...

Speaking of huge investments the amounts of money going into this election are just astonishing. Of course Obama is the Billion Dollar Man, but Romney isn't that far behind, and then you think about all those flyers coming in the mail every day for state legislators, all those TV ads, etc etc., has any credible organization tried to total up the damage?
 
Re: 2012 Presidential Election 5: Election Day Countdown

French Rage said:
Of course you would say that, but then you sir have the sloped brow and protruding cheekbones of a mill worker.
Click to expand...

I guess that explains my Master's degree? :confused:

Of course, it's not from an Ivy (Cornell) or wannabe Ivy (Stanford, Denver) institution, so... ;) :p
 
Re: 2012 Presidential Election 5: Election Day Countdown

Craig P. said:
If we've got nothing to hide, why are we running them off?
Click to expand...

Because there's no place for UN inspired Euro-a*sholes in the United States?

Or Because we're scared these UN- loving punks are going to uncover embarrassing systemic electorial faults? Gasp. The shame of not living up to UN/Euro standards.

Or maybe because it's NOTFB how we conduct our elections?

If he's got nothing to hide, why can't we see His Transcriptlessness' college records?
 
Last edited:
Re: 2012 Presidential Election 5: Election Day Countdown

Gurtholfin said:
Is he an East Coaster?

Might be without power...
Click to expand...

Nah, Kep disappeared from the political threads a couple weeks back.

Too bad, I liked reading his stuff. He almost always says what I'm thinking, but better and more articulately.
 
Re: 2012 Presidential Election 5: Election Day Countdown

Foxton said:
Try to spot your favorite conservative poster among these well informed citizens at a Romney rally. Notice the Jeep lie to start it off.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nY0M7IdNl7U
Embed seems to be broken atm.

And teh social issues.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6-ePaZ8148&feature=plcp
Click to expand...


Wow. I know that they probably cherry picked which responses to include in that video, but they sure had plenty of uninformed idiots to choose from.

Based on their comments, those people have no idea what Romney stands for nor why they even want to vote for him. They just know (coz they've been told) that they don't want Obama.

Oh yeah, and they're all white.

So which one was FF?


PS - It's amazing how insulated from the "salt of the earth" we are here in Madison. Even though I know in my head that those people exist, I still have to see footage from time to time to actually be convinced.
 
Last edited:
Re: 2012 Presidential Election 5: Election Day Countdown

Old Pio said:
If he's got nothing to hide, why can't we see His Transcriptlessness' college records?
Click to expand...

Because they are a little less relevant than tax records, and some candidates who donated to terrorist cells in Pakistan between 2004 and 2008 won't even produce those. (Hey, I heard it so it must be true).

Also because that element that has hijacked the Republican party repeatedly denounces the value of higher education, especially if the institution is world class. Now, if he had attended the Idaho School of Applied Office Skills or the Alaska School of Large Animal Skinning, that would be different, because we want a president we can suck down a beer with, not one who has the mental horsepower to take on the most diversely challenging job on the planet. Better a candidate who does not know who the Prime Minister of Canada is or who cannot name a U. S. Supreme Court decision than one who could aspire to be on the Supreme Court some day.

Being Editor in Chief of the Harvard Law Review does not mean you have the makings of a good president, that much is obvious, but it is the most coveted position at the most coveted law school in the world. Competition is intense and probably cut-throat. That accomplishment, by itself, tells me the guy has serious academic skills and aptitude. As long as it's academic credentials we are focusing on, I'm willing to risk the conclusion that he is as equipped as the next guy standing in line for the job.

But if you believe he forged his application, his transcript and his diploma, just as he did his birth certificate, then you have a point.

BTW: One good thing about living one or two time zones ahead of Pio is that you get to take potshots at him while he is still sleeping. It's a safe time to be out causing trouble. :)
 
Last edited:
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top