2012 Presidential Election 5: Election Day Countdown

[geezer]

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Also, how funny is it that I'm now seeing people wondering "where is Obama's college transcripts"? What's next, are people going to start questioning if the Obamas are legally married? "Where's the license, Your Livinginsin-ness?"

This is a recycled issue from 4 years ago. After claiming the nomination as being the smartest Harvard-educated politician ever to grace the face of the earth, some people said, OK then, release your transcripts so we can see for ourselves about these claims you're making. Suddenly, the "smartest person in the history of the world" talk stopped right quick, but we never did see the transcripts either. I have to admit it would be fun to see what's in there
Although personally I put very little stock in college letter grades as a qualification for anything. I've seen to many "book smart" idiots in the world of academia that wouldn't survive a day in the real world.

 

[Old Pio]

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Also, how funny is it that I'm now seeing people wondering "where is Obama's college transcripts"? What's next, are people going to start questioning if the Obamas are legally married? "Where's the license, Your Livinginsin-ness?"

Are you using a straw to drink that Kool-aid? Because no nominally intelligent person could believe that shiza. His Transcriptlessness' academic "accomplishments" were pushed relentlessly in '08 in part because they were impressive, in part to compensate for his having the thinnest resume of any modern presidential candidate. Yet he has done everything in his power, for years, to keep the details of those "accomplishments" from the prying eyes of his pals in the MSM. Why?

This is the same campaign which has demanded that Romney release tax records going back to that paper route he had in middle school. We know, for instance, what Romney's grades were in his freshman year in high school but have no idea what His Liarness' grades were, ever. Or his SAT or LSAT scores. Nothing. Black hole.

If a person's academic "accomplishments" were as glittering as we've been lead to believe, then why not post the information that quantifies those "accomplishments" so the whole world can be properly impressed?

Many weeks ago I suggested a compromise: Romney release his tax returns, His Transcriptlessness release his academic records. The game is in the 3rd period. The clock is winding down. And we appear to be tied. So I guess it's too late to expect any consistency at all from the Obamabots.

Geezer's right. College letter grades are not a reliable predictor of who's going to be a good president and who's not. Or a good anything, for that matter. It was (and still is) an article of faith among libstains that Bush was a dummy and John Kerry was way smart. Bush's better SAT scores and grades at Yale notwithstanding. Some myths are more durable than others. Remember, Jimmy Carter is a "nookyouler" engineer. Big whoop.

 

[Old Pio]

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Starting to hear commercials on how we need to limit the freedom to marry in Minnesota. Think of the children or so the claim goes. It sounds like we'll be joining Mass in the cesspool if this doesn't go through.

I think it was joecct that said that everytime someone says 'think about the children'...government is growing.

Actually, I favor no restrictions whatsoever on who marries whom, especially in Minnesota. Brothers and sisters? Check. Gay brothers and sisters? Check. Farm animals? Check. Mothers and sons? Check. Fathers and daughters (especially underage daughters)? Check. Corpses? Check. Hey, who am I to judge?

 

[burd]

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Many weeks ago I suggested a compromise: Romney release his tax returns, His Transcriptlessness release his academic records. The game is in the 3rd period. The clock is winding down. And we appear to be tied. So I guess it's too late to expect any consistency at all from the Obamabots.

Can't believe neither campaign took you up on that, Pio. Did you ask nicely?

 

[mookie1995]

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why does anyone need to release their tax return, or college transcript, or birth certificate?

so what?

 

[manurespreader]

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why does anyone need to release their tax return, or college transcript, or birth certificate?

so what?

Good point. Obama had a good quote the other day when he said that both he and the person he was talking about were educated in Kenya.
Maybe the question that should be asked is "How will the next four years look with each candidate". Might not be all that different except maybe for the supreme court appointments.

 

[Fighting Sioux 23]

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Many weeks ago I suggested a compromise: Romney release his tax returns, His Transcriptlessness release his academic records. The game is in the 3rd period. The clock is winding down. And we appear to be tied. So I guess it's too late to expect any consistency at all from the Obamabots.

That actually seems to me to be a fair deal. Of course, I really don't think either side would be willing to agree to it, but a fair deal nevertheless. You're a modern day Harry Truman

 

[Old Pio]

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why does anyone need to release their tax return, or college transcript, or birth certificate?

so what?

I totally agree. Jim Buckley (brother to Bill) served as a senator from New York and was pounded mercilously by the NYT for not releasing his tax returns. He simply refused. And pointed out the guys who edited the editorial pages of the Times didn't release their tax returns. And they had at least as much influence as any given senator.

 

[burd]

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Well, we don't know what his grades were at Columbia, but we know he was Magna Cum Laude at Harvard Law, which would probably put him in the 3.6 - 3.8 range. I don't think he was cum laude at Columbia, so assume he graduated with a 3.0, which is probably the bottom of the scale if he got into Harvard Law without a legacy. How would all that matter?

 

[Old Pio]

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Well, we don't know what his grades were at Columbia, but we know he was Magna Cum Laude at Harvard Law, which would probably put him in the 3.6 - 3.8 range. I don't think he was cum laude at Columbia, so assume he graduated with a 3.0, which is probably the bottom of the scale if he got into Harvard Law without a legacy. How would all that matter?

How 'bout if he was a "diversity" admit? Obviously wouldn't matter to you. But there are others for whom it might. In this benefit of the doubt torrent (how do we know any of his claims?), still no explanation for the active, relentless, never ending effort to keep us from knowing those grades or admissions scores.

None of this really matters, especially now. But it is certainly a matter of hypocricy and the typically supine MSM who simply aren't interested in investigating anything (Benghazi, grades, fast and furious, etc etc) that might diminish His Liarness' chances.

Meanwhile, these same MSM are deeply concerned about Romney's taxes and a prep school prank from 45 years ago.

 

[mookie1995]

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How 'bout if he was a "diversity" admit? Obviously wouldn't matter to you. But there are others for whom it might. In this benefit of the doubt torrent (how do we know any of his claims?), still no explanation for the active, relentless, never ending effort to keep us from knowing those grades or admissions scores.

then he should be the poster child for why diversity works. he took the opportunity and ran with it to the highest office in his chosen field.

 

[Old Pio]

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then he should be the poster child for why diversity works. he took the opportunity and ran with it to the highest office in his chosen field.

So if some better qualified lesbian or Native American or (God forbid) white kid got screwed and had to go to a directional school, the ends justify the means? Not everyone in America is as "enlightened" as you. I'd also say your sample size is a bit too small for the sweeping conclusion that "diversity works." One loaf of bread doesn't make a bakery.

 

[Old Pio]

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Can't believe neither campaign took you up on that, Pio. Did you ask nicely?

They have me on ignore. Like so many members of the Voltaire Society here.

 

[burd]

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How 'bout if he was a "diversity" admit? Obviously wouldn't matter to you. But there are others for whom it might. In this benefit of the doubt torrent (how do we know any of his claims?), still no explanation for the active, relentless, never ending effort to keep us from knowing those grades or admissions scores.

Diversity admit to where--Harvard or Columbia? Does it matter which if he was a 3.7 at the highest level? If you are wondering whether those schools were using minority status as an admission factor, I'm sure they were at that time, and you need not know his own situation to determine that. If diversity consideration is important to you because you think he lacks the right academic "stuff" and would not have been admitted otherwise, then it seems that his graduating magna at the last and highest level of his education not only justifies the admit but might also resolve that doubt for you. If you are one of those academia elitists who require higher marks, then maybe he's just too dumb for the job.

 

[mookie1995]

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So if some better qualified lesbian or white kid got screwed and had to go to a directional school, the ends justify the means? Not everyone in America is as "enlightened" as you. I'd also say your sample size is a bit too small for the sweeping conclusion that "diversity works." One loaf of bread doesn't make a bakery.

there is some wiggle room in everything. he, along with the lesbian and the white kid, may have tied for a last spot. it all comes down to choices, made by kids and made by the schools --" do we accept the rich kid and push his dad now to contribute and hope to count on him and the son in the future?"

the horrible example i hear radio folks throw out is some fictional darkie dr getting into med school because of his color and you or your loved one having their life in his hands. if that 'sample' can be the scare tactic, why can't a single success (if that is what it was) be used?

 

[unofan]

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How 'bout if he was a "diversity" admit?

Even if that was the case (and I'm not granting that it is), he proved his worth once he was there. And at a place like Harvard, diversity picks are probably more justifiable to the extent they offset the legacy picks.

 

[Old Pio]

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there is some wiggle room in everything. he, along with the lesbian and the white kid, may have tied for a last spot. it all comes down to choices, made by kids and made by the schools --" do we accept the rich kid and push his dad now to contribute and hope to count on him and the son in the future?"

the horrible example i hear radio folks throw out is some fictional darkie dr getting into med school because of his color and you or your loved one having their life in his hands. if that 'sample' can be the scare tactic, why can't a single success (if that is what it was) be used?

"darkie?" I seem to recall a SCOTUS ruling about a white guy named Bakke.

 

[mookie1995]

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i don't think you need to search for things to pull out and bash BHO with like this. he has had four years already to make the rich folks pay their fair share. why does anyone think he'll be able to after he wins on tuesday, he is immediately a lame duck! no reps in congress are going to be under his bully pulpit to follow his lead.

 

[Old Pio]

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Even if that was the case (and I'm not granting that it is), he proved his worth once he was there. And at a place like Harvard, diversity picks are probably more justifiable to the extent they offset the legacy picks.

If that's true, then why hide those grades? Why? Why? Let's have just one credible explanation, before it's too late.

 

[mookie1995]

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"darkie?" I seem to recall a SCOTUS ruling about a white guy named Bakke.

luckily you don't have to hear the people on rightie radio here in boston