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2012 Elections Part I: All Politics is Yokel

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Perry is favored over Romney by about 9pts in the GOP nomination.

But Romney is keeping it close just 2pts behind Obama in the national election, whereas Perry is down 6pts to Obama. In fact, Paul is seen as more competitive than Perry. RCP average.
 
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5mn_Major said:
Perry is favored over Romney by about 9pts in the GOP nomination.

But Romney is keeping it close just 2pts behind Obama in the national election, whereas Perry is down 6pts to Obama. In fact, Paul is seen as more competitive than Perry. RCP average.
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Pass the Kool aid.
 
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Old Pio said:
President Zero? Shameless Perry ad with about a half dozen shots of the flag. G*d d*amn him!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EL5Atp_vF0
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Perry should be more worried about the firefighters keeping his state from going up in flames.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/...epartment-cuts-texas-wild-fires_n_956307.html

Don't worry they'll save money by getting rid of those regulations.
The budget cuts haven't just hit local departments in need of proper gear. They've hit the state agency charged with inspecting that gear. The Texas Commission on Fire Protection, which regulates and inspects the personal protective gear such as breathing apparatuses and protective clothing, took a 25 percent cut. The commission has gone from 41 to 31 employees. It's down to six inspectors covering 700 departments, including Houston's 4,000 firefighters.
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Rimbaud said:
Produced by Jerry Bruckheimer
Directed by Michael Bay
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You could have put any name in over Perry's with no change in the rest of the script. They've created the Perfect Ad -- all form and no content.
 
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The state of Georgia has put convicted cop killer Troy Davis to death after a strenuous day of high dramatics engineered by his lawyers and "supporters." A day which involved yet another review by the Supreme Court of the United States. Let's not lose sight of the fact that these folks are motivated by a desire to end capital punishment. They don't want guilty people executed either. IMO that colors their judgement in any of these "innocence" cases. Say what you will about this case or capital punishment in general, this guy got "due process" up the wazoo. And he was rebuffed every step of the way. Only "candle people" (the folks who show up outside execution chambers to to sing Kumbaya) would think that unsworn changes in testimony decades after the fact were credible. I would have more respect for "candle people" if they ever showed up at a center for the victims of violent crime. That'll never happpen, of course, because there are no TV cameras outside of those centers. Just for the record, I have no use for people who show up to cheer on executions, either.
 
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The state of Georgia has put convicted cop killer Troy Davis to death after a strenuous day of high dramatics engineered by his lawyers and "supporters." A day which involved yet another review by the Supreme Court of the United States. Let's not lose sight of the fact that these folks are motivated by a desire to end capital punishment. They don't want guilty people executed either. IMO that colors their judgement in any of these "innocence" cases. Say what you will about this case or capital punishment in general, this guy got "due process" up the wazoo. And he was rebuffed every step of the way. Only "candle people" (the folks who show up outside execution chambers to to sing Kumbaya) would think that unsworn changes in testimony decades after the fact were credible. I would have more respect for "candle people" if they ever showed up at a center for the victims of violent crime. That'll never happpen, of course, because there are no TV cameras outside of those centers. Just for the record, I have no use for people who show up to cheer on executions, either.
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Besides the obvious (7 of 9 witnesses attempting to recant their testimony, needlessly killing people, etc.) there was one thing about this case yesterday that really bothered me. One of the prosecutors was quoted as saying "he's already had plenty of time to prove his innocence." huh? Do I need to be worried about continually documenting my innocence?
 
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Old Pio said:
Here's a Chicago union goon whose annual pension is 158K. These are the guys Deadmeat wants to help whenever, wherever and however he can.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...s)&utm_content=My Yahoo&utm_source=feedburner
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This was happening with the teacher's union in MI until some of it was reformed two years ago. There were people retiring on full pension, working 6 months under a different title, and collecting two full pensions thereafter. Some of them went back to work as contractors while collecting two full retirement pensions. It's the same kind of garbage a lot of public unions are going to have to sort out as the taxpayer funding runs low.
 
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Besides the obvious (7 of 9 witnesses attempting to recant their testimony, needlessly killing people, etc.) there was one thing about this case yesterday that really bothered me. One of the prosecutors was quoted as saying "he's already had plenty of time to prove his innocence." huh? Do I need to be worried about continually documenting my innocence?
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Actually, there were 34 witnesses, not nine. And then there's the little matter of a pair of Davis' shorts found soaked in the cop's blood. For some reason or another never mentioned by the PR types wanting this killer to be "spared." All I'm asking for here is a little intellectual honesty ("needless killing" kind of gives away the store). Are you still whining about Davis' "innocence," or are you arguing against capital punishment? If it's the latter, then why not say so up front? How much due process is enough? He had opportunity after opportunity (including two interventions by SCOTUS) to show there had been a miscarriage of justice. He didn't. He couldn't. As to "proving your innocence," don't be obtuse. He was indicted, tried and convicted. He was not selected randomly off the street.

In this case (as usual) the people in a position to know, federal and state judges and the Georgia Pardons Board, ruled against Davis. And the people furthest away, with the least knowledge, Bishop Tutu for instance, were convinced he was innocent. God bless Bishop Tutu, but he knew as much about this case as he does about flying a space shuttle, which is to say zero.

It's a perfectly honorable position to be against capital punishment--although I respectfully disagree. But I'm weary of anti-capital punishment types hoping against hope they've finally found the case of an "innocent" man about to be put to death. The larger objective, IMO, tends to cloud their judgement as to the actual facts of the case they're yammering about. And I suppose it would be dirty pool to point out your apparant lack of concern for that Texas monster who also got his last night. If you're against the death penalty, you should stand up for him too, shouldn't you? But in his case it's a teensy bit harder, isn't it?
 
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It's pretty rare that I agree 100% with Old Pio, but this is one of those cases. Presumption of Innocence applies before and during the trial. Once the trial is over, the burden switches to the convict to prove that the trial was invalid. He had every opportunity in the world, and was rebuffed at every turn. Case closed.
 
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geezer said:
This was happening with the teacher's union in MI until some of it was reformed two years ago. There were people retiring on full pension, working 6 months under a different title, and collecting two full pensions thereafter. Some of them went back to work as contractors while collecting two full retirement pensions. It's the same kind of garbage a lot of public unions are going to have to sort out as the taxpayer funding runs low.
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"As taxpayer funding runs low?" LOL. Now there's the euphemism of the week. You mean when the union goons have left taxpayers bloody and beaten and unconscious in the gutter, don't you? Jesse James did it with a gun. This is a perfect example of the kinds of abuse having unionized public sector employees generates. What we need in this country is more Wisconsins and I'm not talking about cheese.
 
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LynahFan said:
It's pretty rare that I agree 100% with Old Pio, but this is one of those cases. Presumption of Innocence applies before and during the trial. Once the trial is over, the burden switches to the convict to prove that the trial was invalid. He had every opportunity in the world, and was rebuffed at every turn. Case closed.
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One of the continuing and self-serving myths of anti-death penalty types is that these cases are "complex." They aren't. The vast majority of 'em are open and shut (just like most criminal cases). Elaborate, Miss Marple type "mysteries" are the stuff of movies and TV, not real life. The facts of these capital cases are dreary, repulsive and frightening. IIRC, the last one of these cases around which coalesced the customary circus, was the execution of Tookie Williams in California. A beast if there ever was one. But, by the end, he had become some sort of poetic prince. After all, he had written a children's book. Meh.
 
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Anyone going to watch tonight pre season debate on Fox? I can hardly wait for the cuts and the regular season to start in January.

Alternatively, we can do this:

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joecct said:
Anyone going to watch tonight pre season debate on Fox? I can hardly wait for the cuts and the regular season to start in January.

Alternatively, we can do this:

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To Romney : What would you define as rich?
Romney : Well I want everyone to be rich
Fox idiot :Thank very much

**** this i'd rather watch TNA impact.
 
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