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2012 Elections Part I: All Politics is Yokel

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Kepler said:
I'm sure you'll hear cries for impeachment on derp radio by Monday. That's the traditional Republican response to losing an election. :)
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As long as it doesn't get violent.

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The California straw poll results:

Congressman Ron Paul (374, 44.9%)
Governor Rick Perry (244, 29.3%)?
Mitt Romney (74, 8.8%)
Congresswoman Michele Bachmann (64, 7.7%)
Jon Huntsman (17, 2.0%)
Herman Cain (15, 1.8%)
Newt Gingrich (14, 1.7%)
Thad McCotter (7, 0.8%)
Rick Santorum (7, 0.8%)
Gary Johnson (2, 0.2%)
Fred Karger (1, 0.1%)
Write-ins (15, 1.8%)

After his momentous win in the most populous state, Ron Paul will be all over the talk shows tomorrow morning, right?
 
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How in the hell is Rick Perry getting so much love? Are Republican voters really that stupid?
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
The thing I've noticed about Ron Paul sycophants, is they're able to put him on top of nearly every poll except for the most important one. It's actually quite impressive.
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Well, with fewer than 850 people participating, winning this "poll" is equivalent to being elected class president at a good sized high school. Who cares?
 
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Old Pio said:
Well, with fewer than 850 people participating, winning this "poll" is equivalent to being elected class president at a good sized high school. Who cares?
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Agreed. If Ron Paul wasn't a complete loonball he'd at least be intriguing as a candidate.

I take that back, he's intriguing but not sane.
 
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sagard said:
His kind of insanity is still way better than all but one other "R" option.
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I would take Pat Robertson over him.

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A Ron Paul presidency would be salubrious in one way: he's probably the only guy in America who if elected would try to walk back the Imperial Presidency and voluntarily shed executive power. I appreciate Obama as a bulwark against the insane clown posse House, but living through Dubya dressing up as Alexander the Great was enough to convince me that the executive branch has become far too powerful.
 
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Kepler said:
A Ron Paul presidency would be salubrious in one way: he's probably the only guy in America who if elected would try to walk back the Imperial Presidency and voluntarily shed executive power. I appreciate Obama as a bulwark against the insane clown posse House, but living through Dubya dressing up as Alexander the Great was enough to convince me that the executive branch has become far too powerful.
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On the flip side he'd be shoving any of that power on to the state gov'ts.
 
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Foxton said:
On the flip side he'd be shoving any of that power on to the state gov'ts.
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I don't really see how he could do that (as much as he'd like to). It would be absorbed into the legislature, which as terrible as that sounds would still be better. I'd rather have a system where it takes 269 stupid/evil people to ruin the country rather than 1 stupid/evil person. It's just statistically less likely that an entire Congressional majority will ever be as feckless as someone like Dubya.

Also: make Congress declare wars. There would be fewer of them.

On the other hand, if executive power did devolve back to the states, either (A) the derp-da-derps would have to start taking responsibility for their populations' welfare and stop having the federal government to blame for everything, or (B) the failed states would draw away from the rest of us faster than you can say cellular mitosis, and we'd finally be rid of them.
 
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All of Perry's move make him appear very big government. As governor, he was states rights...it was not less government, but more government in Rick Perry's hands. His book shows that as he looks to the federal govt...he would look for more power in his hands. To be for small government, you have to desire that as country leader you yourself have less power. That is not Perry.
 
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5mn_Major said:
All of Perry's move make him appear very big government. As governor, he was states rights...it was not less government, but more government in Rick Perry's hands. His book shows that as he looks to the federal govt...he would look for mover power in his hands. To be for small government, you have to desire that as country leader you yourself have less power. That is not Perry.
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Spot on. He should call for the impeachment of Obama.
 
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5mn_Major said:
All of Perry's move make him appear very big government. As governor, he was states rights...it was not less government, but more government in Rick Perry's hands. His book shows that as he looks to the federal govt...he would look for mover power in his hands. To be for small government, you have to desire that as country leader you yourself have less power. That is not Perry.
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And this is different from Dubya how?

Any Republican can run using "small gubmint" rhetoric. Their voters aren't exactly critical thinkers.
 
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5mn_Major said:
Why would he resign?
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Common conservative malady.

Not to mention that every presidential election now starts at 45%-45%, with the fight being over who brings out that last 10%.

I would still say Obama's re-election chance is above .500, and anyway that's going to be about the economy. The really interesting story of the next calendar year will be how the GOP gets to its nominee. Perry vs Romney is very similar to Obama vs Hillary in being an interloper vs an establishment candidate with a lot of internal enemies.
 
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geezer said:
I think this is a good idea. Obama should pitch out to Hillary before he gets sacked.
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