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2010 NHL Off-Season: Sather is a dink

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Terrierbyassociation said:
I'd like the NHLPA and the owners to get together and limit the max length on a contract at 6 years. If a player has been with the same org for 6 years, he can be signed for 8 years.

8 years should be the absolute longest amount of time a guy could be signed for.
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why punish a guy like that?

i mean, when i think new jwesey devils, i think kovalchuk. he's the face of that franchise. it's only right that he be further associated with them for another 17 years!!!
 
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JF_Gophers said:
The 17 years is less shocking than the low amount of money he took.

That's only a $6 mil a year contract.

He rejected 12 yrs/$101 mil from Atlanta (8.4 mil/yr).
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The last five years of the deal, where he's ages 39-44, he makes $550,000 a year. It's quite hysterically bad. Then again, this is Bettman's baby this CBA. The owners/GMs have found a way to fark the system and I'm sure the owners will blame the players for their own executives having found a way to get around the salary cap they fought so hard to get. Idiots.
 
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GreatLakerMohawk said:
The last five years of the deal, where he's ages 39-44, he makes $550,000 a year. It's quite hysterically bad. Then again, this is Bettman's baby this CBA. The owners/GMs have found a way to fark the system and I'm sure the owners will blame the players for their own executives having found a way to get around the salary cap they fought so hard to get. Idiots.
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I blame the NWO with their chemtrails and fluoride in our drinking water, personally.
 
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Brenthoven said:
I swear the whole world is against us, Silent Bob. :mad:
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If he ends up with the Kings because of this, there is only one appropriate response:

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I can picture Lou jumping up and down in his bedroom in suburban NJ right about now. Not fair, not fair, not fair, Hossa, Hossa, Hossa!
 
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thecomicbookguy said:
15-years is ok, but 17 is not? Or is it that RickyDP's deal was not even to circumvent the cap, making it an even dumber move on their part?
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I really really hope the Penguins (or actually, whoever) tries the same thing with Cindy. I wanna see what happens.
 
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thecomicbookguy said:
15-years is ok, but 17 is not? Or is it that RickyDP's deal was not even to circumvent the cap, making it an even dumber move on their part?
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Ricky gets 4.5 every year. It is that bad. This one probably got the axe because it takes him to 44, and the last 6 years are at the current minimum. (which by 2021 will probably be too low) Kovalchuk would get 2.75 for the last 5 years. Hossa will get $8 million, Luongo over 13 million. At least the last two pretend like they'd still be around.
 
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thecomicbookguy said:
15 years is ok, but 17 is not? Or is it that RickyDP's deal was not even to circumvent the cap, making it an even dumber move on their part?
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That contract wasn't dodging the cap given the fact it pays the same salary every year of the deal.

Where New Jersey has a real gripe is in the fact that the NHL approved Chicago's deal with Hossa which is shorter but very similar (high payout early, practically no payout late).
 
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Bakunin said:
That contract wasn't dodging the cap given the fact it pays the same salary every year of the deal.

Where New Jersey has a real gripe is in the fact that the NHL approved Chicago's deal with Hossa which is shorter but very similar (high payout early, practically no payout late).
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And while mind-boggling, and rules-exploiting, it's still within the rules, to my understanding.
 
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Brenthoven said:
And while mind-boggling, and rules-exploiting, it's still within the rules, to my understanding.
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It's pretty clear-cut circumvention, which violates 26.3 of the CBA. The "investigations" into Pronger and Hossa last year were the warning shots. Even your GM said at the presser today that these are stupid and he "rolled his eyes" when the contract was completed.
 
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bronconick said:
It's pretty clear-cut circumvention, which violates 26.3 of the CBA. The "investigations" into Pronger and Hossa last year were the warning shots. Even your GM said at the presser today that these are stupid and he "rolled his eyes" when the contract was completed.
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Yes, I read Lou's comments. I also think Ilya's , Pronger's, and Hossa's contracts are ridiculous, but why reject one and not the other? One is a little more obvious, but hey, it's following a precedent, which was okayed.
 
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Brenthoven said:
Yes, I read Lou's comments. I also think Ilya's , Pronger's, and Hossa's contracts are ridiculous, but why reject one and not the other? One is a little more obvious, but hey, it's following a precedent, which was okayed.
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Gotta draw the line somewhere, I guess? If so, too late! :rolleyes:
 
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Brenthoven said:
Yes, I read Lou's comments. I also think Ilya's , Pronger's, and Hossa's contracts are ridiculous, but why reject one and not the other? One is a little more obvious, but hey, it's following a precedent, which was okayed.
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Pronger's has to be set aside, IMO, as it's a 35+ contract and Holmgren shot himself on the foot on that.

Hossa and Luongo going to 42 were bad, but probably borderline bad. They're also making some money in their last 5 years (8 million and 13). Ilya playing for minimum wage from 39-44? Yeah, that's believable. NJ forgot to put lipstick on the pig before setting her up in the kissing booth.
 
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