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World Soccer XXXI: Golden Generation?

Russell Jaslow said:
We're still going to get blamed.
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Oh I know. Anything bad that happens in soccer is instantly the fault of Americans.

I remember seeing a discussion about the 1994 World Cup and how games were played in the afternoon heat and that being “a terrible decision by the local organizers.” Like, bitch the games had those start times because you Europeans insisted on those start times for your TV audiences!

Remember the fiasco with the Copa America Final? People were blaming “American organizers” for the trouble while it had already been stated that CONMEBOL was organizing the event themselves.
 
Jimjamesak said:
Oh I know. Anything bad that happens in soccer is instantly the fault of Americans.

I remember seeing a discussion about the 1994 World Cup and how games were played in the afternoon heat and that being “a terrible decision by the local organizers.” Like, bitch the games had those start times because you Europeans insisted on those start times for your TV audiences!

Remember the fiasco with the Copa America Final? People were blaming “American organizers” for the trouble while it had already been stated that CONMEBOL was organizing the event themselves.
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Football
 
SonofSouthie said:
The 2026 World Cup Final at MetLife Stadium will be the first in the competition's history to include a half time show, FIFA president Gianni Infantino has announced.

www.cbssports.com

2026 FIFA World Cup final to have Super Bowl-style halftime show: Gianni Infantino says Coldplay to help plan

The first-ever halftime show is being put together in conjunction with Global Citizen
www.cbssports.com www.cbssports.com
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The teams apparently hated the Copa America halftime with Shakira. And it wasn’t her best effort either.
 
The Los Angeles Galaxy become the first defending MLS Cup champion to lose their first three regular season matches to start the season (and a fourth as they lost their CONCACAF Champions Cup midweek as well).
 
Manchester United officially announced plans to leave Old Trafford, their home for more than 100 years, and move into a new stadium.
The proposal was unveiled on Tuesday and has been backed by former manager Sir Alex Ferguson. The proposed 100,000-seat arena would surpass Wembley as the biggest in the United Kingdom.
 
Bulls**t

The Glazers are worth an estimated $10 billion. Fenway Sports Group an estimated $13. Stan Kroenke about $18, BlueCo about $4.3, Evangelos Marinakis about $5 billion, etc.

For 2022-23 United was ranked 2nd for total revenues in the league.

I'm not saying they don't need a new stadium, but lack of finances are not the reason for their lack of success of late.
 
Watched Celtic-Rangers and at the end they showed Rangers celebrating with their ultras and it just reinforces how absurd the hooliganism culture is. The visitors section is surrounded by nets and has roughly 200 security guards lining the field and stairs around it.

Yes, there are weekly videos of drunk NFL fans over here fighting in the upperdeck, but that's usually 1v1 and seems like a quarter of the time is between fans of the same team. How did it become an accepted part of the sporting culture to have to literally segregate them. And are Rangers somehow tied politically to staying in the UK? Lots of Union Jacks being flown.
 
Spartanforlife4 said:
Watched Celtic-Rangers and at the end they showed Rangers celebrating with their ultras and it just reinforces how absurd the hooliganism culture is. The visitors section is surrounded by nets and has roughly 200 security guards lining the field and stairs around it.

Yes, there are weekly videos of drunk NFL fans over here fighting in the upperdeck, but that's usually 1v1 and seems like a quarter of the time is between fans of the same team. How did it become an accepted part of the sporting culture to have to literally segregate them. And are Rangers somehow tied politically to staying in the UK? Lots of Union Jacks being flown.
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Easier to read than me trying to explain. It goes waaay back.

en.wikipedia.org

Sectarianism in Glasgow - Wikipedia

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USL to apparently adopt promotion and relegation when their D1 league comes online in 2028.

This is an interesting and bold move. But, this all seems a bit fly-by night since D1 was announced just last month to the surprise of the owners and the start of the D1 has now apparently been pushed back from 2027 to 2028.

Could it be feasible? Maybe, the question is going to be whether the owners are willing to spend and lose the money that’s going to be required to be invested to make it work. Right now no USL team has a soccer specific stadium that meets D1 standards, some teams like Charleston are looking at having to add 10k+ seats to their stadium. And mind you, that’s just the basic infrastructure. That’s not even getting into things like player salaries or the reality of travel costs (especially since it looks like they’re moving from a heavily regionalized model to a national one). And that’s just the “moving up” part, what will happen to a team like Phoenix or Louisville if they go down to the third tier and the fans bail? This is all under the specter of an impending economic collapse too, what happens if the money just bails or never appears?

Maybe it’ll work but I don’t see it right now.
 
Spartanforlife4 said:
Watched Celtic-Rangers and at the end they showed Rangers celebrating with their ultras and it just reinforces how absurd the hooliganism culture is. The visitors section is surrounded by nets and has roughly 200 security guards lining the field and stairs around it.

Yes, there are weekly videos of drunk NFL fans over here fighting in the upperdeck, but that's usually 1v1 and seems like a quarter of the time is between fans of the same team. How did it become an accepted part of the sporting culture to have to literally segregate them. And are Rangers somehow tied politically to staying in the UK? Lots of Union Jacks being flown.
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Not just there, and not just recently. I went to a TSV 1860 game in Munich in 1999 at the 1972 Olympic Stadium, where both they and Bayern played at the time. There was an 8' (okay, probably 2.5 meter) chain link fence running down the center of each aisle, and then similar "horizontal" fences every 20 rows or so with gates, so that any conflagration of hooliganism could be contained to within that block of 20 rows.

And this was for Germans, who are notoriously orderly and follow ze rules!
 
For a bit of perspective on just the stadium situation: Of the 24 teams in the USL Championship, 9 play in a stadium with 10,000 capacity or more, 3 of those stadiums are soccer specific, none of the soccer specific stadiums meet the capacity required for D1 standards (15,000 seated).
 
Jimjamesak said:
For a bit of perspective on just the stadium situation: Of the 24 teams in the USL Championship, 9 play in a stadium with 10,000 capacity or more, 3 of those stadiums are soccer specific, none of the soccer specific stadiums meet the capacity required for D1 standards (15,000 seated).
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Let's actually sell out and have regular SRO crowds at the 7,000 seat High School Football fields before we start diving into requiring actual stadiums....

Baby steps here, lol.
 
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