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World Soccer XXI: Don't Tread on the Red, White, and Blue

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I don't think that's necessarily the lineup for the All Star game. That still gets picked by the coach.
 
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Please Jonny Evans. Please take out Henry's leg at the All Star Game.
 
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Don't know about that red card and penalty in Portland just now. I suppose it's a red for dangerous play, but isn't dangerous play an indirect free kick?
 
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WeWantMore said:
Don't know about that red card and penalty in Portland just now. I suppose it's a red for dangerous play, but isn't dangerous play an indirect free kick?
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He made contact, kicking is a direct free kick. The red is for Denying An Obvious Goal Scoring Opportunity.

And once again, Portland Sucks. :)
 
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Jimjamesak said:
He made contact, kicking is a direct free kick. The red is for Denying An Obvious Goal Scoring Opportunity.

And once again, Portland Sucks. :)
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By contact, do you mean with the player? It looked to me he only got the ball, which is why I asked.

Edited: Having watched the replay, I suppose his leg did come down on his shoulder.
 
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WeWantMore said:
By contact, do you mean with the player? It looked to me he only got the ball, which is why I asked.

Edited: Having watched the replay, I suppose his leg did come down on his shoulder.
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I think regardless if he made contact with the ball, it is a dangerous challenge. A red? I'm not sure, however I think it's a justifiable call.
 
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I only got to see about 30 min of the 2nd half, then OT and PK - what a game and what a finish. Truly remarkable. One thing that sucks is not only does France get one extra day's rest, but Sweden, which played earlier today, gets the later game on Wednesday.

What is with teams from the Pacific NW insisting on having absolutely atrocious uniforms? But massive kudos to the Portland and Seattle fans for a brilliant atmosphere at that stadium - gives me hope that could become more the norm across MLS.
 
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collegehcky2 said:
I think regardless if he made contact with the ball, it is a dangerous challenge. A red? I'm not sure, however I think it's a justifiable call.
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Yep, I don't have a problem with either of those things. I was just bringing up the idea that it may have been one of those rare situations where there's an indirect free kick inside the penalty box. Guess not.
 
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WeWantMore said:
Yep, I don't have a problem with either of those things. I was just bringing up the idea that it may have been one of those rare situations where there's an indirect free kick inside the penalty box. Guess not.
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Do they still do those?
 
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collegehcky2 said:
Do they still do those?
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Yeah, I saw one this year in the EPL. The game where Man United screwed the pooch against...Blackpool? Blackburn? I can't remember. The game where they were up 2-0 and gave up an OG and an awful play by Van Der Sar.

Van Der Sar picked up the ball after it being played back to him by a defender. (Awful call, but whatever) They had a indirect free kick inside the box.
 
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UNH GH said:
Yeah, I saw one this year in the EPL. The game where Man United screwed the pooch against...Blackpool? Blackburn? I can't remember. The game where they were up 2-0 and gave up an OG and an awful play by Van Der Sar.

Van Der Sar picked up the ball after it being played back to him by a defender. (Awful call, but whatever) They had a indirect free kick inside the box.
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Ah I remember seeing one (could have been that one) where the keeper used his hands, they called it, the keeper chased after the ref and the attacking team played the indirect for an easy goal.
 
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collegehcky2 said:
Ah I remember seeing one (could have been that one) where the keeper used his hands, they called it, the keeper chased after the ref and the attacking team played the indirect for an easy goal.
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Yeah, I think you mean Porto v. Arsenal in the Champions League last year. I can't find a good YouTube to embed.
 
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Grant Wahl's article on The Game.

DRESDEN, Germany -- This U.S. Women's World Cup campaign has a chance to get big now. It's one of the slowest weeks on the U.S. sports calendar, so there's not much competition, and any time you mix patriotism and miraculous comebacks and appealing athletes who play for the purity of the sport -- and the winning, of course, always the winning -- well, you've got something that could blow up.

The U.S. women's soccer team was done. Toast. Down to 10 players against Brazil and the world's greatest player. Down a goal. Down to the last dying seconds of stoppage time and a cruel quarterfinal exit from the World Cup after a series of botched officiating calls had hurt both teams, but the U.S. more than Brazil.

A lot of teams would have turned cynical, sulked and shut down on a day when victory seemed impossible. "There were so many opportunities for us to throw in the towel," said U.S. forward Abby Wambach afterward. "The 120th minute of extra time, down a man and playing against Brazil, who knows how to finish off a game."

At a time when the U.S. could have resorted to cynicism, Brazil certainly did. Defender Erika went down like she'd been hit with a stun-gun, a classic time-wasting tactic late in a game, only to spring up to life as soon as the stretchers came out for her. The pro-U.S. crowd booed mercilessly.

But then something happened. That American thing. "I come from Sweden," said U.S. coach Pia Sundhage, "and this American attitude, pulling everything together and bringing out the best performance in each other, that is contagious."
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More at link. Great writing.
 
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Hope Powell pulls no punches.

If Hope Powell is soon to step down after 13 years as coach of the England women's side, she has delivered quite a parting shot. After the defeat to France on penalties in the World Cup quarter-finals she accused some of her squad of "cowardice" for failing to volunteer to take a spot-kick...
"Three times I had to ask [for volunteers] before anyone stepped forward," said Powell. "'Where are you?' I was thinking, and then a young kid is the first to put her hand up. And Kelly Smith was dying on her feet but she stepped up and took one. You've got to want to take a penalty, but other players should have come forward and they didn't. That's weak, it's cowardice."
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Dear USSF:

I require a "Hope Saved First" shirt.

Your friend,

Red Cloud
 
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WeWantMore said:
Hope Powell pulls no punches.
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As the manager... isn't it her job to already know who she thinks should take the kicks? Otherwise, yeah, that's pretty weird that it took that much effort to get volunteers.

Red Cloud said:
Dear USSF:

I require a "Hope Saved First" shirt.

Your friend,

Red Cloud
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There might be a way to combine that with a "Han Shot First" shirt.
 
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ExileOnDaytonStreet said:
As the manager... isn't it her job to already know who she thinks should take the kicks? Otherwise, yeah, that's pretty weird that it took that much effort to get volunteers.
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From a leadership perspective she should have a feel for her team and prepare accordingly. The US had their top 5 planned and had been working for two weeks, according to articles today. They did need to sub in Kreiger although she had already said she wanted to be part of it. Pia delegates that role to her goalkeeper coach and he went to her and 'told' her she was #5. That appears to be the order too, cheyney went out and they subbed Kreiger, they didn't reshuffle the lineup.

Now, maybe on a seasoned team with lots of knockout round experience you could leave it to the 'volunteer' mode at the last minute but I don't see why you'd try that on a team with little experience or success.

At the end of the day the manager is in charge and it is disappointing to see her blame the team...even if she was 100% confident they'd all volunteer; since they didn't it means she didn't know her team as well as she thought.
 
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So I haven't had a chance to watch my DVR recording yet (and might not pick-up on it when I do) what were the big problems with the officiating in the game? Thanks.
 
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