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World Soccer XV: Diver Down

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Kepler said:
While I would love to see Slovakia advance, we get the Netherlands, and, well, I'm not that crazy...
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While the Dutch have been impressive...We all know their tendency to become the Buffalo Bills of the World Cup once it gets to the knockout stage.
 
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Priceless said:
One of Ghana, South Korea, Uruguay or the USA will be in the semi-finals.
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Yeah. That's freaking crazy.

Uruguay would be the one team that wouldn't totally re-write the record books or shock the world since they've been there before and won it, albeit a very long time ago.
 
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Kepler said:
Yeah but the Bills get to the final and then lose. That does not help us.
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If we make it to the semis, I don't care if the other team fields a lineup consisting of an entire team of Peles.

It would just be so awesome to even get there.
 
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Also funny that its entirely likely that the other semifinal will have one of the following:

Chile (18th in FIFA rankings)
Portugal (3rd. But... c'mon! That's a very unaccomplished 3rd.)
Paraguay (31)
Japan (45)
 
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So I've been browsing the internet for stories about yesterday.

Story here

Without looking at the URL...10 bucks says alot of you would be able to guess the scribe correctly without any hesitation. It puts the racial/political spoin on the World Cup and that being the reason the writer hates the Cup.

Seriously, doesn't that writer get tired of being a one-trick pony? I guess it keeps him his job, but my god...
 
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unofan said:
So I've been browsing the internet for stories about yesterday.

Story here

Without looking at the URL...10 bucks says alot of you would be able to guess the scribe correctly without any hesitation. It puts the racial/political spoin on the World Cup and that being the reason the writer hates the Cup.

Seriously, doesn't that writer get tired of being a one-trick pony? I guess it keeps him his job, but my god...
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Its like a sociology professor was given a case of beer and a sports writer's job

edit: no real direct and true race baiting... he did call people "bigots" though
 
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His racial/political take is rather stupid, but he's right about our pretending like this was some major upset or critical event in the history of American soccer.

We barely eeked out of a group that we were supposed to have a semblence of control over once we tied England. Honestly, while no one wanted to take Algeria and Slovenia lightly, I don't think any one of us really expected this to be anything besides a relatively decisive advancement of the US and England. Instead, we both managed to crawl out with a +1 GD and one win apeice. We're (supposedly) the 14th best team in the world, for crying out loud. Not to take it for granted, but we're supposed to be able to make it out of the group stage.

That's not to deny the incredible drama that was the Donovan goal, but that drama alone shouldn't vault this into some sort of incredible acheivement by our men's team. Talk to me about that when we reach our first semi. Or at least if we put up a good battle with Uruguay in the quarters.
 
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WeWantMore said:
If we make it to the semis, I don't care if the other team fields a lineup consisting of an entire team of Peles.

It would just be so awesome to even get there.
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The other squad could be the All-Time 11. By that point it's all gravy.

So, gearing up for Saturday with Miracle, Rocky and Hoosiers. What am I missing?
 
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Oh, here's a message from yesterday's hero

Not sure if you guys saw this but it brings tears to my eyes every time. Thank you all so much...we can't do it without you guys. Believe!
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As someone said in the comments: Goosebumps
 
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WeWantMore said:
If we make it to the semis, I don't care if the other team fields a lineup consisting of an entire team of Peles.

It would just be so awesome to even get there.
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You don't think we could beat a team of 70 year old men?:D

Seriously, I agree. So long as they're competitive and, if they lose, they force the other team to play well, I'd be ecstatic.
 
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ExileOnDaytonStreet said:
His racial/political take is rather stupid, but he's right about our pretending like this was some major upset or critical event in the history of American soccer.

We barely eeked out of a group that we were supposed to have a semblence of control over once we tied England. Honestly, while no one wanted to take Algeria and Slovenia lightly, I don't think any one of us really expected this to be anything besides a relatively decisive advancement of the US and England. Instead, we both managed to crawl out with a +1 GD and one win apeice. We're (supposedly) the 14th best team in the world, for crying out loud. Not to take it for granted, but we're supposed to be able to make it out of the group stage.

That's not to deny the incredible drama that was the Donovan goal, but that drama alone shouldn't vault this into some sort of incredible acheivement by our men's team. Talk to me about that when we reach our first semi. Or at least if we put up a good battle with Uruguay in the quarters.
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Well, my glass is half full.

Sure, the points and the standings don't look that good, but our play on the field was not bad. If you count the two legitimate goals that were waved off, we won the group going away. And, we generated numerous additional grade-A chances from both open play and set pieces, especially against Slovenia and Algeria, but also vs. England. Against Slovenia and England, many/most of those chances were when we were playing behind and they were focusing on defense - even then, we were able to solve their defenses and play some exciting soccer.

My only concern was the lack of finishing - Altidore especially needs to calm down. He's like a steam locomotive charging into the box, powering through defenders, which is great - I thought he really wreaked havoc on the defenses at times. But when it's his time to shoot on goal, it would be nice if he could ratchet that pace back just a bit and put some touch on the ball.
 
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LynahFan said:
Well, my glass is half full.

Sure, the points and the standings don't look that good, but our play on the field was not bad. If you count the two legitimate goals that were waved off, we won the group going away. And, we generated numerous additional grade-A chances from both open play and set pieces, especially against Slovenia and Algeria, but also vs. England. Against Slovenia and England, many/most of those chances were when we were playing behind and they were focusing on defense - even then, we were able to solve their defenses and play some exciting soccer.

My only concern was the lack of finishing - Altidore especially needs to calm down. He's like a steam locomotive charging into the box, powering through defenders, which is great - I thought he really wreaked havoc on the defenses at times. But when it's his time to shoot on goal, it would be nice if he could ratchet that pace back just a bit and put some touch on the ball.
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The main thing that late goal did yesterday was keep interest in the World Cup in the US. It's on ESPN and being pushed hard. That game ends in a tie and you pretty much have every single talking point as to why soccer sucks wrapped in three games. Eliminated on three draws, including a scoreless one, and your average American hates ties with a burning passion as it is, and get screwed by what appears to the casual fan is subpar or crooked officiating in two consecutive games.

Americans would collectively shrug, flip off the rest of the world, and tell them to keep their corrupt little sport, since if we wanted to watch officials decide games, we'll just watch the NBA and at least see scoring. Good luck pushing it again in 2014 if that had happened.
 
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ESPN3.com Logs Largest U.S. Audience for a Sports Event on the Web

Wednesday morning’s United States vs. Algeria FIFA World Cup match on ESPN – in which the Americans scored a dramatic goal in stoppage time to earn a 1-0 win and a spot in the Round of 16 – is the highest-rated and most-watched soccer game in the history of ESPN networks, delivering a 4.6 rating (4.0 household U.S. rating), 4,582,000 households and 6,161,000 viewers for the two-hour contest (10 a.m. ET – noon).

The previous households record was set five days earlier with the U.S.-Slovenia match (June 18) – 3,906,000.

Excluding holidays, ESPN’s coverage of the U.S.-Algeria game ranks as the most-watched weekday morning telecast ever for ESPN, surpassing the U.S.-Germany World Cup match from eight years ago (June 21, 2002) – 4.4 rating and 5,335,000 viewers.

The game ranked as the highest-rated program of the day on any network among M18-34 and M18-49.

Through Wednesday, June 23 (40 games on ABC, ESPN and ESPN2), the 2010 World Cup is averaging a 1.8 U.S. rating (for the two-hour match window) — up 40% from 2006 (1.3). Household impressions are up 46% (from 1,389,000 to 2,025,000) and P2+ impressions are up 49% (from 1,789,000 to 2,658,000).
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ESPN3.com – The U.S. vs. Algeria game marked a milestone for online video, logging the largest U.S. audience ever for a sports event on the web. It attracted nearly 1.1 million unique viewers with an average time spent viewing of 43 minutes. The match also averaged 328,000 viewers per minute in its live coverage. When combined with the concurrent England vs. Slovenia match, ESPN3.com reached its peak point of viewing at around 11:30 a.m. ET when 513,000 viewers were watching each minute.

For the four World Cup matches on June 23, ESPN3.com captured 1.4 million viewers who watched for 84 million total minutes. Through 14 days of World Cup coverage (June 10-23), five million viewers have watched the World Cup on ESPN3.com and consumed more than 9.2 million total hours.
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bronconick said:
The main thing that late goal did yesterday was keep interest in the World Cup in the US. It's on ESPN and being pushed hard. That game ends in a tie and you pretty much have every single talking point as to why soccer sucks wrapped in three games. Eliminated on three draws, including a scoreless one, and your average American hates ties with a burning passion as it is, and get screwed by what appears to the casual fan is subpar or crooked officiating in two consecutive games.

Americans would collectively shrug, flip off the rest of the world, and tell them to keep their corrupt little sport, since if we wanted to watch officials decide games, we'll just watch the NBA and at least see scoring. Good luck pushing it again in 2014 if that had happened.
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Exactly. (I was on here this morning trying to cobble together a similar point but couldn't make it work. You did.)

It's not like American soccer averted its own destruction because I think the last 20 years has established a core generation that will have at least a casual interest indefinitely, but it did avert its recession.
 
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bronconick said:
... and your average American hates ties with a burning passion as it is ...
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Which is stupid.

Frankly, on a scale of 0 to 2, I'd rate ties somewhere as a 1. I'd probably rank a loss as a 0.

In fact, on a scale of 0 to 3... I'd probably do the same.

bronconick said:
Americans would collectively shrug, flip off the rest of the world, and tell them to keep their corrupt little sport, since if we wanted to watch officials decide games, we'll just watch the NBA and at least see scoring. Good luck pushing it again in 2014 if that had happened.
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Ha!
 
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