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World Soccer XIV: Where JV keepers can play in the World Cup - Group Stages continued

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No one controls destiny. That's a silly statement. :p
 
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French Rage said:
It's like a non-consenting dance broke out:

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Let's count the fouls (from right to left)

1) The defender has the blond American in a bearhug. Pretty sure that's a foul.
2) An American attacker is sandwiched between two defenders, one of which appears to have his arms wrapped around the attacker. That's also a foul.
3) Another defender has put his shoulder into an Americans' face. Borderline, but that could certainly be a foul.

And somehow the USA still managed to score a goal.
 
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ESPN keeps saying the US wants an Algeria upset. Isn't that wrong? Don't we want an England win?

That puts England/Slovenia even at 4 points going into their matchup. USA will have 2. Algeria 0. This way, if there is an England/Slovenia winner and USA wins, USA moves on. If there is an England/Slovenia tie and USA wins, as long as USA beats Algeria by more than one, USA moves on.
 
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AMC said:
ESPN keeps saying the US wants an Algeria upset. Isn't that wrong? Don't we want an England win?

That puts England/Slovenia even at 4 points going into their matchup. USA will have 2. Algeria 0. This way, if there is an England/Slovenia winner and USA wins, USA moves on. If there is an England/Slovenia tie and USA wins, as long as USA beats Algeria by more than one, USA moves on.
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It doesn't really matter. The scenarios get slightly better if Algeria wins or draws today - the U.S. need only win by 1 next week rather than 2 or more, and there's some unlikely scenarios that come into play where they can advance with a draw by finishing 0-0-3 along with England, then it comes down to goals scored.
 
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AMC said:
ESPN keeps saying the US wants an Algeria upset. Isn't that wrong? Don't we want an England win?

That puts England/Slovenia even at 4 points going into their matchup. USA will have 2. Algeria 0. This way, if there is an England/Slovenia winner and USA wins, USA moves on. If there is an England/Slovenia tie and USA wins, as long as USA beats Algeria by more than one, USA moves on.
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unofan said:
It doesn't really matter. The scenarios get slightly better if Algeria wins or draws today - the U.S. need only win by 1 next week rather than 2 or more, and there's some unlikely scenarios that come into play where they can advance with a draw by finishing 0-0-3 along with England, then it comes down to goals scored.
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It also doesn't really matter because England isn't going to lose to Algeria, even with Jamie Carragher's washed-up *** playing central defense.
 
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AMC said:
ESPN keeps saying the US wants an Algeria upset. Isn't that wrong? Don't we want an England win?

That puts England/Slovenia even at 4 points going into their matchup. USA will have 2. Algeria 0. This way, if there is an England/Slovenia winner and USA wins, USA moves on. If there is an England/Slovenia tie and USA wins, as long as USA beats Algeria by more than one, USA moves on.
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A draw would be great, because then England would have to get a result in the last match. Then as long as the US beats Algeria, they're through.

I think the talking heads at ESPN are assuming it'd be best for the Americans if England doesn't go through. That's irrelevant. The math they should be doing is what would be best for the USA; in that event you are correct.
 
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If we and England tie every game, does it go to total goals scored?

(I know that's not gonna happen, but just asking)
 
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French Rage said:
If we and England tie every game, does it go to total goals scored?

(I know that's not gonna happen, but just asking)
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I believe so.

Hypothetically, what would happen if all six matches in a group ended as 0-0 ties?
 
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French Rage said:
If we and England tie every game, does it go to total goals scored?

(I know that's not gonna happen, but just asking)
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yeah.
 
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burgie12 said:
Also no.

England over Algeria. England ties Slovenia 2-2 (or higher). US beats Algeria 1-0.

England, Slovenia, US all tied with 5 points. Slovenia and US both have a +1 GD. Slovenia scored more goals. They advance.

A 2-goal US win guarantees advancement. Funky things can happen in the England-Algeria game which makes it easier, but a 2-goal win is the only thing currently guaranteeing them the knockout rounds.
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No becuase I said someone had to win the England/Slovenia game, you have them tying in your scenario.

If England beats Algeria they have four points. US has two and Slovenia has four.

If the US wins by any score they have five points. As long as someone loses the Slovenia/England game, one will be left with four points and the US is in.
 
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jmh said:
I believe so.

Hypothetically, what would happen if all six matches in a group ended as 0-0 ties?
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Sack race every third Sunday.
 
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jmh said:
Hypothetically, what would happen if all six matches in a group ended as 0-0 ties?
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Drawing of lots.

The tie breakers are:

a) greatest number of points obtained in all group matches;
b) goal difference in all group matches;
c) greatest number of goals scored in all group matches.
If two or more teams are equal on the basis of the above three criteria, their rankings will be determined as follows:
d) greatest number of points obtained in the group matches between the teams concerned;
e) goal difference resulting from the group matches between the teams concerned;
f) greater number of goals scored in all group matches between the teams concerned;
g) drawing of lots by the FIFA Organising Committee.
 
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jmh said:
I believe so.

Hypothetically, what would happen if all six matches in a group ended as 0-0 ties?
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I believe the criteria are:

a) greatest number of points obtained in all group matches;
b) goal difference in all group matches;
c) greatest number of goals scored in all group matches.
If two or more teams are equal on the basis of the above three criteria, their rankings will be determined as follows:
d) greatest number of points obtained in the group matches between the teams concerned;
e) goal difference resulting from the group matches between the teams concerned;
f) greater number of goals scored in all group matches between the teams concerned;
g) drawing of lots by the FIFA Organising Committee.

So, in that scenario, they draw lots.
 
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Kepler said:
Drawing of lots.

The tie breakers are:

a) greatest number of points obtained in all group matches;
b) goal difference in all group matches;
c) greatest number of goals scored in all group matches.
If two or more teams are equal on the basis of the above three criteria, their rankings will be determined as follows:
d) greatest number of points obtained in the group matches between the teams concerned;
e) goal difference resulting from the group matches between the teams concerned;
f) greater number of goals scored in all group matches between the teams concerned;
g) drawing of lots by the FIFA Organising Committee.
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When there's only one group game, d, e, and f are all the same, right?
 
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Link

Sara Carbonero, a beautiful sideline reporter and girlfriend of Spanish goalkeeper Iker Casillas, is being blamed by some fans for Spain's shocking World Cup loss to Switzerland on Wednesday.

The Guardian reports that the gorgeous sportscaster is accused of distracting her boyfriend by being so close to the field before and during the crucial match. Casillas allowed the game's only goal, and Spanish fans are worried that Carbonero could be to blame.

The Spanish beauty later shot back at critics, dismissing claims that she "destabilized the team" as "nonsense."

After the game, Carbonero interviewed her boyfriend and asked him about the team's unexpectedly lousy performance. On live TV, she asked her lover, "How did you muck this up?"
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So the reason the US didn't get a win today must be Erin Andrews. It can't be Jeremy Schaap :p
 
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Also, can we bench Onyewu for the duration of the tournament and replace him with someone who has a general idea about defensive positioning?
 
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This Sara Carbonero is not particularly bad:

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Terrierbyassociation said:
The ref is from Uzbekistan. Seriously FIFA? Embarrassing selection. Oh well, he was ranked the #1 ref in Asia twice...lets hope he can get it done.
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Embarrassing? He was widely considered to have the best performance of any ref in the opening batch of games. And since that was the opener (Mexico vs. South Africa), it would certainly have been a very challenging match to call, between the nerves, excitement, and sharp contrast in styles.
 
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Brutal half.
 
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ESPN trying to gin up some homer outrage about the US being "robbed" of a win. Perhaps next time we should show up for the first half? :rolleyes:
 
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