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Wisconsin vs Total Recall

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I just cannot WAIT to see Raechel Maddow's response when Walker wins. Even when the majority of the voters AGAIN vote for for what Walker stands for, she'll tell us they're all a bunch of uneducated morons and that this will only help the one percenters or some other idiotic remark.
 
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They are from the midwest and they vote Republican. What part of that does not suggest that they are uneducated morons?
 
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carltonbarrett said:
I just cannot WAIT to see Raechel Maddow's response when Walker wins. Even when the majority of the voters AGAIN vote for for what Walker stands for, she'll tell us they're all a bunch of uneducated morons and that this will only help the one percenters or some other idiotic remark.
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The only time I watch MSNBC is for moments like this. She'll be hanging crepe all over the place and I'll enjoy every second of it.
 
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Old Pio said:
The only time I watch MSNBC is for moments like this. She'll be hanging crepe all over the place and I'll enjoy every second of it.
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I loved a couple weeks back when she had the Governor of Illinois on bragging about all the jobs the state had created vs WI's lack thereof, the only problem being that she didn't mention that WI has a balanced budget while IL is about to become the next Greece with it's budget debacle. She is dumber than she is vile....
 
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carltonbarrett said:
I loved a couple weeks back when she had the Governor of Illinois on bragging about all the jobs the state had created vs WI's lack thereof, the only problem being that she didn't mention that WI has a balanced budget while IL is about to become the next Greece with it's budget debacle. She is dumber than she is vile....
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She'll have to go some to top her performance the night Scott Brown won in MA. You would have thought he was Torquemada! Yeah, Wisconsin really needs to emulate Illinois.

Here's a prediction: she'll spend most of her time blaming Barrett's defeat on "big out of state money." It's not like Wisconsin voters will have said "no" to this guy, twice.
 
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Slap Shot said:
Yup, because of the unions.
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When CA has $50 Billion in unfunded state worker pension liabilities and the Unions won't even sit down at the bargaining table to "consider" switching to 401K investment vehicles, then you can bet your Arse they're a BIG part of the problem.
 
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bronconick said:
You're going to need sources for that. Last summer, all the rage was about governors in Wisconsin, Ohio and Florida (and a hat tip to Michigan's over the Emergency Manager law) pushing through legislation that they didn't run on. Politfact has Walker's claims that he was simply enacting campaign promises as false, FWIW.
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IIRC, Michigan's first EM Law was signed in by Blanchard in 1988. But since then other Gov's have expanded its authority. The 4 cities that have EM's (Flint, Pontiac, Ecorse and Benton Harbor just don't have the tax base to fund the union contracts (AFSCME and/or SEIU). Likewise with the Detroit Public Schools that can not afford the NEA contracts. It could be the greedy 1%'ers in those cities that are not paying their fair share, or it could be something else.

If Detroit is appointed an emergency manager, 49% of African Americans in Michigan will be living in cities run by EMs.
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And the link to quotehttp://michiganradio.org/post/7-things-know-about-michigans-emergency-manager-law
 
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When did libs become so concerned about candidates who seem to govern differently than how they campaigned? It must have been since '64, when Lyndon Johnson portrayed Barry Goldwater as an out of control war monger. Once safely elected, he and the Democrat controlled congress shipped 600K GI's to Vietnam. And justified it with the Gulf of Tonkin resolution, which to this day nobody's quite certain wasn't a total scam.

Incidentally, the resolution was written by Senate Foreign Relations committee chairman J. William Fulbright of Arkansas (who never voted for ANY civil rights legislation) who later complained he had been "tricked" or something.
 
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carltonbarrett said:
I just cannot WAIT to see Raechel Maddow's response when Walker wins. Even when the majority of the voters AGAIN vote for for what Walker stands for, she'll tell us they're all a bunch of uneducated morons and that this will only help the one percenters or some other idiotic remark.
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I think Ed Schultz might have a complete mental breakdown if Walker wins. Maddow will just see some shiny object and move on like she always does.
 
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carltonbarrett said:
....and wasn't one of Obama's first priorities to shut down Gitmo? How's that going?
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Was leaving Gitmo open not the right decision?

carltonbarrett said:
When CA has $50 Billion in unfunded state worker pension liabilities and the Unions won't even sit down at the bargaining table to "consider" switching to 401K investment vehicles, then you can bet your Arse they're a BIG part of the problem.
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Yup, the strongest economy on the planet is about to fail because of public sector unions.

Great having another spoon-fed neo on board.
 
It's two different issues. Yes, I agree the debt troubles of the nation as a whole have little, if anything, to do with public employee unions. Though it's worth pointing out for the record that federal employees do not have collective bargaining "rights", a fact that Bill Clinton, Barack Obama, and company don't seem to mention when talking about the glories of CB. Odd.

Anyways though, on the state and local level,yes I believe PEUs are very much a - while of course not the only- culprit. And once again, this is a fact that Governors and mayors of BOTH parties recognize. If you think it's just Walker and other GOP gobs, that's nuts. Look at what Cuomo's doing, look at what Emanuel's doing, look at what Deval Patrick tried to do, look at what Dan Malloy's doing. The list could go on and on and on.
 
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Don't read too much into my comment - I'm not advocating for them, but to blame them for the fall of the union is downright ignorant.
 
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Slap Shot said:
Was leaving Gitmo open not the right decision?



Yup, the strongest economy on the planet is about to fail because of public sector unions.

Great having another spoon-fed neo on board.
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Well, the strongest economy on the planet is not "about to fail." And if it did it would be Bush's fault anyway, so who cares? It takes a special kind of denial to ignore the wreckage caused by public sector unions around the country. Why even that loser Barrett, as Mayor of Milwaukee, is saving millions thanks to Walker's reforms.

Unions, particularly public sector unions, are not an indispensible part of the American dream. And the declining membership of unions everywhere seems to confirm the point. And how do unions respond? Why advocating the elimination of the secret ballot, of course. Tuesday's going to be a long overdue and well deserved kick in the jewels for union goons.

Meanwhile, everyone on the MSNBC set Tuesday night will be dressed like they're going to a Gallagher concert. When Ed Schwartz'* head explodes, that stuff's gonna get on everything.

*yes, I know. Don't bother.
 
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Apparently the recall election has become so heated and so divisive that family members and lifelong friends have stopped talking to one another; and at some family events there is a prohibition against any political conversation.....

Tuesday's election on whether to recall Mr. Walker has so bitterly divided this state that many residents live in parallel societies, limiting themselves to like-minded friends, separate drinking holes and sympathetic media outlets.
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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100...72709448302.html?mod=WSJ_hps_MIDDLE_Video_Top
 
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