What if every team made the tournament?

[FreshFish]

Re: What if every team made the tournament?

Just curious....these results come from one simulated game?

I wonder if there was a best 2 of 3 series in the early rounds if we'd get the same results??

 

[Fighting Sioux 23]

Re: What if every team made the tournament?

Just curious....these results come from one simulated game?

I wonder if there was a best 2 of 3 series in the early rounds if we'd get the same results??

Maybe next year they can do that (or perhaps this summer)...I'll bring the idea up when I speak with them next.

 

[FreshFish]

Re: What if every team made the tournament?

Maybe next year they can do that (or perhaps this summer)...I'll bring the idea up when I speak with them next.

thanks. i've done some monte carlo simulations and one individual simulation can deliver results within a pretty wide range; the reason for multiple simulations is to dampen the influence of outliers.

 

[Fighting Sioux 23]

Re: What if every team made the tournament?

thanks. i've done some monte carlo simulations and one individual simulation can deliver results within a pretty wide range; the reason for multiple simulations is to dampen the influence of outliers.

I'm not really sure exactly what kind of simulator/predictor they are using. That being said, while one simulation can deliver results within a pretty wide range, one game in a one and done format can also deliver results in a pretty wide range.

 

[FreshFish]

Re: What if every team made the tournament?

I'm not really sure exactly what kind of simulator/predictor they are using. That being said, while one simulation can deliver results within a pretty wide range, one game in a one and done format can also deliver results in a pretty wide range.

Yes, of course. However, we have a regular season of 35+ games that "sorts" teams before they are even eligible for the playoffs. The one-and-done format starts only after a considerable number of real-life "simulations" have been run first.

The simulator they are using has all 58 teams in a single-elimination tournament from the outset. I'd suggest a 3 of 5 or a 2 of 3 format until the round of 16 is reached and then switch to the one-and-done so that the results are a bit more congruent with the situation we have now. *

World Cup soccer and European Champions League adopt a similar two-stage format: group stage picks the top 16 after which they go into a single-elimination tournament (actually in Champions League they even have a two-game elimination in the "knock-out" phase until the one-game final).


* Actually, the format I'd most like to see would be to divide teams into 8 pools, with top 16 or top 32 teams seeded, and then have a round-robin format within each pool with top 2 teams from each pool to advance to a 16-team single-elimination tournament; however my guess is that would be way too far from their comfort zone!

 

[LtPowers]

Re: What if every team made the tournament?

Yes, of course. However, we have a regular season of 35+ games that "sorts" teams before they are even eligible for the playoffs. The one-and-done format starts only after a considerable number of real-life "simulations" have been run first.

The same is true here; the teams were seeded based on RPI.

The simulator they are using has all 58 teams in a single-elimination tournament from the outset. I'd suggest a 3 of 5 or a 2 of 3 format until the round of 16 is reached and then switch to the one-and-done so that the results are a bit more congruent with the situation we have now. *

They're not looking for congruence; they're specifically asking "what if all 58 teams made the tournament?".


Powers &8^]

 

[Fighting Sioux 23]

Re: What if every team made the tournament?

Alright...the Regional Finals are underway!

In Worcester, Wisconsin and BC are knotted up at 1 through the first period.
In St. Paul, the Gophers have a 1-0 lead through 20 minutes.
In Bridgeport, Miami is out to a 2-0 lead, thanks to two late goals at the end of the first.
In Green Bay, Maine and Michigan are all square at 0 after 1.

 

[TonyTheTiger20]

Re: What if every team made the tournament?

Whoever tagged this thread as "gayer than showtunes" is:

1) A homophobe,
2) a hater of showtunes, and
3) wrong.

This is one of exactly 3 threads I've been looking at religiously since Sunday. It's fun. Get over it.

 

[JF_Gophers]

Re: What if every team made the tournament?

Whoever tagged this thread is:

1) A homophone,
2) a hater of showtunes, and
3) wrong.

This is one of exactly 3 threads I've been looking at religiously since Sunday. It's fun. Get over it.

Maybe they meant "happier" than showtunes. Just because the first thing you think of for the word gay is derogatory in nature, doesn't mean everyone else does.

 

[TonyTheTiger20]

Maybe they meant "happier" than showtunes. Just because the first thing you think of for the word gay is derogatory in nature, doesn't mean everyone else does.

They didn't tag the thread calling it "gay" because they like it. Don't be such an ignorant a s s.

 

[TonyTheTiger20]

In Worcester, Wisconsin and BU are knotted up at 1 through the first period.

Omg we're fighting...

 

[JF_Gophers]

Re: What if every team made the tournament?

They didn't tag the thread calling it "gay" because they like it. Don't be such an ignorant a s s.

Yay for intolerance!

 

[Fighting Sioux 23]

Re: What if every team made the tournament?

Omg we're fighting...

Wow. Sorry about that. It has been corrected.

 

[Fighting Sioux 23]

Re: What if every team made the tournament?

Whoever tagged this thread as "gayer than showtunes" is:

1) A homophobe,
2) a hater of showtunes, and
3) wrong.

This is one of exactly 3 threads I've been looking at religiously since Sunday. It's fun. Get over it.

I'm glad you've been enjoying the hypothetical. I removed the tag, as this was the first I had seen it, but thank you for bringing it to my attention.

 

[TonyTheTiger20]

Yay for intolerance!

I don't get it. You object to me taking issue with someone calling something "gay" because they don't like it?

 

[Fighting Sioux 23]

Re: What if every team made the tournament?

Alright...the Regional Finals are underway!

In Worcester, Wisconsin and BC are knotted up at 1 through the first period.
In St. Paul, the Gophers have a 1-0 lead through 20 minutes.
In Bridgeport, Miami is out to a 2-0 lead, thanks to two late goals at the end of the first.
In Green Bay, Maine and Michigan are all square at 0 after 1.

UPDATE!
At the end of two, Wisconsin has a 2-1 lead over Boston College in Worcester.
In St. Paul, Minnesota has extended their lead to 3-1 with the 3rd just about to start.
Miami is now up 4-1 early in the third in Bridgeport.
In Green Bay, Maine has a 2-1 lead over Michigan with 20 minutes left to play.

 

[FreshFish]

Re: What if every team made the tournament?

I don't get it. You object to me taking issue with someone calling something "gay" because they don't like it?

Is it "gay" to say that calling something "gay" is a "gay" thing to do? When we sing Deck the Halls at Christmas, can we still "don we now our gay apparel"?

I remember when reading Ivanhoe in high school English literature, there was a sentence in which a poor peasant went into the woods to pick up faggots*, to take them home and burn them in his fireplace! You can imagine the giggles that line brought, and that was several decades ago.



* for those without a handy pocket dictionary, that word in Sir Walter's time meant "kindling."

 

[TonyTheTiger20]

Is it "gay" to say that calling something "gay" is a "gay" thing to do? When we sing Deck the Halls at Christmas, can we still "don we now our gay apparel"?

I remember when reading Ivanhoe in high school English literature, there was a sentence in which a poor peasant went into the woods to pick up faggots*, to take them home and burn them in his fireplace! You can imagine the giggles that line brought, and that was several decades ago.



* for those without a handy pocket dictionary, that word in Sir Walter's time meant "kindling."

I know what the dictionary definitions of various references to homosexuals are. But, again, and try to keep up, they didn't call it "gay" because they thought the thread was "happy." They called it "gay" because they didn't like it. That turns a word that doesn't have negative connotations by itself into hate speech.

This feigning ignorance in an attempt to defend homophobia drives me up a ****ing wall. It happens all the time and it is maddening.

 

[FreshFish]

Re: What if every team made the tournament?

This feigning ignorance in an attempt to defend homophobia drives me up a ****ing wall. It happens all the time and it is maddening.

Has everything really become so extreme these days? I have nothing against homosexuals at all; I merely want them to keep their preferences to themselves and not make a big public production about it. If every heterosexual went around shouting to the world, "hey, I got laid last night, aren't I wonderful?" you might very well find that annoying too, would that make you a heterophobe?

There's a lot of middle ground.

 

[William Blake]

Re: What if every team made the tournament?

jeez, this is getting pathetic, can you create a thread for the PC/homophobia discussion elsewhere?