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WCHA vs tRest

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All right, so far we've got the following inter-conference records (from USCHO)

WCHA 9-2-5
HEA 3-4-1
ECAC 2-3-3
CCHA 3-8-1
AHA 1-10-3

As a Hockey East guy, I accept our 2nd best inter-conference record so far. It'll go nicely with a 4th straight national championship this spring.
 
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DaveStPaul said:
All right, so far we've got the following inter-conference records (from USCHO)

WCHA 9-2-5
HEA 3-4-1
ECAC 2-3-3
CCHA 3-8-1
AHA 1-10-3

As a Hockey East guy, I accept our 2nd best inter-conference record so far. It'll go nicely with a 4th straight national championship this spring.
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A man with some sense. The argument was never which conference has the best team, it was the best conference.
 
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TonyTheTiger20 said:
This is absolutely true (though trust me, UMass is incredible God-awful this year).
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Interesting. How did BC do against them this season?
Unless you personally have skated with the UMass team and have a first-hand account of how God-awful they are...

How's that 7.5 gpg average thing working out for BC so far?
 
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brianvf said:
Interesting. How did BC do against them this season?
Unless you personally have skated with the UMass team and have a first-hand account of how God-awful they are...

How's that 7.5 gpg average thing working out for BC so far?
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1. BC hasn't played them yet. Last year, they were "good," by their standards, and BC beat them five times in five tries. They then lost most of their scoring talent either to graduation or pro defections. While nobody on here has skated with them (:rolleyes: ) it doesn't take a rocket scientist or brilliant hockey analyst to look at their roster and say they're going to have serious trouble this year. Most people put them in at least the bottom 3 or 4 of HE; I say they'll finish 8th or 9th.

2. I'm pretty sure exactly one person speculated that BC could break the league scoring record, and that person didn't know that the record was an average of 7+ goals per game. Again, :rolleyes: .

Seeing as North Dakota lost to Yale to end their season & has had their season ended by an eastern team 5 years in a row (by 3 different teams, so there goes the 'oh, it's one team in the east' garbage), I would hold off on the bluster unless you enjoy sounding foolish.

Yes, lower-middle WCHA teams like Mankato, Alaska Anchorage, and, in the last couple of years, Minnesota, are probably better than teams like UMass, UMass-Lowell, and Merrimack, as well as most of the ECAC. If that's what you're hanging your hat on, congratulations I guess.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
It wasn't the fact that they were typos, it was irony that was the funny part.

Maybe you brown boys don't get taught that. I could explain it to you but God only knows I could only use monosyllabic words.
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I didn't go to Brown; you'll have to ask Onion Man but I'm guessing that one is expected to know what irony means before showing up there:rolleyes:. But way to ignore the point of the post - well done
 
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BCWH Superfan joe said:
I didn't go to Brown; you'll have to ask Onion Man but I'm guessing that one is expected to know what irony means before showing up there:rolleyes:. But way to ignore the point of the post - well done
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I corrected that as soon as I realized you were not onion man.

The rest of the post? Pssh.. You completely ignored the post I made on the previous page completely ruining your theory about HEA being the best...
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
I corrected that as soon as I realized you were not onion man.

The rest of the post? Pssh.. You completely ignored the post I made on the previous page completely ruining your theory about HEA being the best...
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Yes, I also did the same thing (made a mistake, then went back and fixed it). burn!

Anyway, my point isn't that HEA is the best conference. I think that's kind of a dumb argument to have at this point of the season and is pretty hard to judge anyway, regardless of what point of the season it is.

OOC records are unreliable because the matchups could include top teams vs bottom feeders; the limited amount of OOC games available to NCAA hockey teams makes it impossible to get a good sample. Besides, many excellent teams (see: BC in 2006, 2007, and 2008) don't click until late in the season anyway and judging anything by who won the Icebreaker or the Denver Cup or whatever is really stupid.

The only way to judge is by performance when it matters in the NCAAs. And even then, it's stupid to really make any hardcore pronouncements since there's lots of ways to judge 'who's better' - whose top teams are better? who had more teams in the NCAA? whose mid-pack teams performed better? whose bottom teams are better? whose pep bands are better? and on and on, and you could argue your position for those questions in a bunch of different ways.

I don't necessarily think Hockey East is the best conference in hockey, although its results when it counts have been better the last few years. I just think it's freakin' dumb and obnoxious for WCHA types to continue with the tripe about how much better they are than everyone else when their teams keep getting sh*tcanned in March and April by teams from the east.
 
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Evidently sarcasm is lost on Joe. :D

BCWH Superfan joe said:
BC hasn't played them yet.
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Really? Being that they have played two games, and both were against UMN? You sure they haven't played them yet? :confused: ;)

BCWH Superfan joe said:
While nobody on here has skated with them (:rolleyes: )
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:D

BCWH Superfan joe said:
I'm pretty sure exactly one person speculated that BC could break the league scoring record, and that person didn't know that the record was an average of 7+ goals per game. Again, :rolleyes:
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Ah, don't back down so easy on that one. I bet BC has a legit chance at doing it! :p

BCWH Superfan joe said:
I would hold off on the bluster unless you enjoy sounding foolish.
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Too late for you in that regard... :cool: :)
 
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BCWH Superfan joe said:
Yes, I also did the same thing (made a mistake, then went back and fixed it). burn!

Anyway, my point isn't that HEA is the best conference. I think that's kind of a dumb argument to have at this point of the season and is pretty hard to judge anyway, regardless of what point of the season it is.

OOC records are unreliable because the matchups could include top teams vs bottom feeders; the limited amount of OOC games available to NCAA hockey teams makes it impossible to get a good sample. Besides, many excellent teams (see: BC in 2006, 2007, and 2008) don't click until late in the season anyway and judging anything by who won the Icebreaker or the Denver Cup or whatever is retarded.

The only way to judge is by performance when it matters in the NCAAs. And even then, it's stupid to really make any hardcore pronouncements since there's lots of ways to judge 'who's better' - whose top teams are better? who had more teams in the NCAA? whose mid-pack teams performed better? whose bottom teams are better? whose pep bands are better? and on and on.

I don't necessarily think Hockey East is the best conference in hockey, although its results when it counts have been better the last few years. I just think it's freakin' dumb and obnoxious for WCHA types to continue with the tripe about how much better they are than everyone else when their teams keep getting sh*tcanned in March and April by teams from the east.
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Your arguments would hold water over a single season, but over 7 or 8? I don't think so.

Also, you did completely most of the post. The part where WCHA teams had won 5 of the last 8 (which I guess would be 5 of 9 now) and still would be at the top for teams sent to the F4.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
Your arguments would hold water over a single season, but over 7 or 8? I don't think so.
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I disagree. I don't have the time to do it now, but I feel like if you look at every single OOC matchup between Hockey East and WCHA over the past 8 years or so, you wouldn't end up with a fully representative sample. BC probably plays 2 out of conference games in the regular season against WCHA opponents every year.
 
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BCWH Superfan joe said:
Anyway, my point isn't that HEA is the best conference. I think that's kind of a dumb argument to have at this point of the season and is pretty hard to judge anyway, regardless of what point of the season it is.

OOC records are unreliable because the matchups could include top teams vs bottom feeders; the limited amount of OOC games available to NCAA hockey teams makes it impossible to get a good sample. Besides, many excellent teams (see: BC in 2006, 2007, and 2008) don't click until late in the season anyway and judging anything by who won the Icebreaker or the Denver Cup or whatever is really stupid.

The only way to judge is by performance when it matters in the NCAAs. And even then, it's stupid to really make any hardcore pronouncements since there's lots of ways to judge 'who's better' - whose top teams are better? who had more teams in the NCAA? whose mid-pack teams performed better? whose bottom teams are better? whose pep bands are better? and on and on, and you could argue your position for those questions in a bunch of different ways.

I don't necessarily think Hockey East is the best conference in hockey, although its results when it counts have been better the last few years. I just think it's freakin' dumb and obnoxious for WCHA types to continue with the tripe about how much better they are than everyone else when their teams keep getting sh*tcanned in March and April by teams from the east.
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See, now this post I can agree with. Nice work.
I agree that these threads are pointless...especially at week 1...or even halfway through the season.

It all works in cycles. From 2002 to 2007, the west dominated the east with the national titles. The last three years it's been the east's turn at it. It will swing back again soon enough... :)
 
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