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Utica University 2022-23: Is This The Year?

Tom Coughlin said:
Anyone who thinks St Norbert is one of the 10 best teams in the country hasn't watched them play this year. I'm not saying that they are terrible, but no way are they the 9th best team.
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Tom, it is just the residue of being a perennial national power for 25 years.
 
sshablak said:
! Give it up, do you know how much you're embarrassing youself on USCHO ?
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If you don't think that St. Norbert is likely overrated at 9th right now because of the reputation it has built over the last 25 years as a perennial national power, then you're the one embarrassing yourself.
 
JSicedog said:
We understand St Norbert seems to have lost their following on here, but if you are going to crawl into the Utica thread can you at least come up with some new material?
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The reason it is old and cliched doesn't make it any less accurate.
 
Well, a 16-1 final seems ideal

Paired with Hobart and Adrian losses on top of that, a great day and weekend for the boys. Big home and home series against Naz next weekend
 
Bartman said:
OK, get it. Interesting how the methodology varies by sport in the NCAA.
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D-1 football used to have a sound and objective metric, but, because 1,000,000 X more people looked at it, and went apoplectic when TCU overtook whomever when both teams won their final RS games a few years back, the NCAA caved to the outcry from the ignorami...

That was about a flip-flop via SOS, and SOS matters.

If we looked at D-3 hockey right now based on historical success and "name brand", Hobart would easily pass MY eye-test, but the eye-test doesn't matter.

The PW is imperfect, as is the RPI, and they are generally identical in their results... But they're not bad. The KRACH was easily the most predictive metric, but people don't generally grasp statistical regression, so the NCAA dumbs it down for them... IMO, the KRACH calculus should be the gold standard in *every* NCAA sport.

But, we have a horse-race here, and that's fun. I wouldn't mind Endicott garnering the overall #1 seed, if they keep winning. The margins are razor-thin among the current top top five. Looks like a fluid and entertaining finish to the RS.
 
Fishman'81 said:
D-1 football used to have a sound and objective metric, but, because 1,000,000 X more people looked at it, and went apoplectic when TCU overtook whomever when both teams won their final RS games a few years back, the NCAA caved to the outcry from the ignorami...

That was about a flip-flop via SOS, and SOS matters.

If we looked at D-3 hockey right now based on historical success and "name brand", Hobart would easily pass MY eye-test, but the eye-test doesn't matter.

The PW is imperfect, as is the RPI, and they are generally identical in their results... But they're not bad. The KRACH was easily the most predictive metric, but people don't generally grasp statistical regression, so the NCAA dumbs it down for them... IMO, the KRACH calculus should be the gold standard in *every* NCAA sport.

But, we have a horse-race here, and that's fun. I wouldn't mind Endicott garnering the overall #1 seed, if they keep winning. The margins are razor-thin among the current top top five. Looks like a fluid and entertaining finish to the RS.
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It is definitely a very wide open race right now, there's no one team I can look at and say that they're going to win. Next weekend is Endicott v. Curry and I'm sure a lot of us neutrals in that scenario will have eyes on that series
 
Pioneer247 said:
It is definitely a very wide open race right now, there's no one team I can look at and say that they're going to win. Next weekend is Endicott v. Curry and I'm sure a lot of us neutrals in that scenario will have eyes on that series
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For sure.

And if UU wins on Friday, it'll likely leapfrog the loser.

The de-facto PS is already underway.
 
It must be said: Saturday's game was an embarrassment to the UCHC and to D-3 in general.

God, I miss the old ECAC-West, which was very competitive.

And I wonder why teams move around so much, when D-3 hockey is a money-pit in the first place, and most realignments make neither geographical nor economic sense to begin with.

Somebody help me out here.
 
Fishman'81 said:
It must be said: Saturday's game was an embarrassment to the UCHC and to D-3 in general.

God, I miss the old ECAC-West, which was very competitive.

And I wonder why teams move around so much, when D-3 hockey is a money-pit in the first place, and most realignments make neither geographical nor economic sense to begin with.

Somebody help me out here.
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The old ECAC West had some horrible matchups as well. The first version of Lebanon Valley was in that league. The early days of Neumman was retched. Remember Scranton? (Sorry, to bring back those nightmares...) Heck, go further back, and remember Villanova?

There's a reason why RIT was a punching bag on these boards with the "classless" moniker attached to them.

But, looking at today's conferences, yeah the UCHC is a very poor conference. There, I said it. And I think that's one of the key reasons that hurts Utica in the national playoffs. Not that it's Utica's faullt. They are stuck with what's dealt to them, partly due to Hobart and Elmira leaving.

As for these constant realignments, except when it involves all sport conferences adding hockey forcing their members to move, I don't get it either.

(P.S. People should check out what Adrian did to Finlandia in women's hockey this past weekend. Makes what Utica did seem like child's play. It goes beyond the definition of brutal.)
 
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Pioneer247 said:
I know some people don't care about the polls, but this is the first #1 ranking in school history for the Pioneers
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Congrats to Utica on the #1 ranking, glad to hand the target over. Hoping to meet the Pioneers when it really counts at the end of the season. Lots of hockey to play before then.
 
Pioneer247 said:
I know some people don't care about the polls, but this is the first #1 ranking in school history for the Pioneers
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No, it's not.

UC was #1 in both the BS coaches' poll and in the meaningful PWR, when Covid shut it all down in 2020.

I've been to nearly every game since the program started up here, and that team was the best I've ever seen at Utica.
 
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