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Utica to the SUNYAC? - Biggar's Column
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Fishman'81
Black Bear since D-2
Re: Utica to the SUNYAC? - Biggar's Column
But why would the SUNYAC schools want to join a bigger league,if doing so would reduce the chances of any one team getting a bid to the NCAA's?
(Just asking,not challenging anyone here.)
But why would the SUNYAC schools want to join a bigger league,if doing so would reduce the chances of any one team getting a bid to the NCAA's?
(Just asking,not challenging anyone here.)
PSUChamps2001
Member of the REAL Zoo Crew
Maybe because their not afraid like other schools/conferences are. No ofense here but besides Oswego and Plattsburgh and a short stint Geneseo, who else has received bids into the NCAA's on a regular basis? Take those 2 teams and what's their record vs the ECAC West....the West havnt been over dominating those teams. To me having the ECAC West join just bring in 3 more top 2-3 teams. Its not like we are adding 5 mid-late 90's Middlebury teams or early 2000's RIT teams here...Oswego and Geneseo already play them now...Plattsburgh has never shied away from playing top competition..but on a year in year out basis its still Oswego/Platssburgh with the ECAC West teams sprinkled with Geneseo/Fredonia...until the West can step up and become a favorite on a consistent basis.
PrezdeJohnson09
Proud supporter of Osmirwich hockey
PSUChamps2001
Member of the REAL Zoo Crew
As long as it's home
Whens Norwichs return to Elmira?? ....thought so...plus Castleton will probably be more competition than Elmira anyways....
Re: Utica to the SUNYAC? - Biggar's Column
Norwich has one spare game per year, and that doesn't change with the new league set up. The only difference in schedule commitments is that the annual game with Midd becomes a non-conference game. As for traveling, we did play Wentworth on the road a couple of years ago as our "extra" game.
Norwich has one spare game per year, and that doesn't change with the new league set up. The only difference in schedule commitments is that the annual game with Midd becomes a non-conference game. As for traveling, we did play Wentworth on the road a couple of years ago as our "extra" game.
PrezdeJohnson09
Proud supporter of Osmirwich hockey
Re: Utica to the SUNYAC? - Biggar's Column
Elmira just tied you the last two games of the series! Yes Plattsburgh holds the edge in the series, but not nearly as bad as the birds own Oswego.
Plus, the Soaring Eagles had started to run up a pretty good record at the Domes lately against Plattsburgh while Platty dominated in the Stafford.
You can't honestly tell me you aren't going to miss the Elmira game on the schedule. The history between these two teams runs as deep as any non-conference foes can in D-III.
Middlebury is actually the team that owes the return trip to Elmira BTW
Elmira just tied you the last two games of the series! Yes Plattsburgh holds the edge in the series, but not nearly as bad as the birds own Oswego.
Plus, the Soaring Eagles had started to run up a pretty good record at the Domes lately against Plattsburgh while Platty dominated in the Stafford.
You can't honestly tell me you aren't going to miss the Elmira game on the schedule. The history between these two teams runs as deep as any non-conference foes can in D-III.
Middlebury is actually the team that owes the return trip to Elmira BTW
Russell Jaslow
Registered User
Re: Jaslow's Column Excerpt
Re: Jaslow's Column Excerpt
Not at all. My comment was merely based on the story that Scott broke and the speculation thereof.
Re: Jaslow's Column Excerpt
Not at all. My comment was merely based on the story that Scott broke and the speculation thereof.
Russell Jaslow
Registered User
Re: Utica to the SUNYAC? - Biggar's Column
Maybe you should talk to the coach of your favorite team to see whether they want this to happen. The answer may not coincide with your beliefs.
Maybe you should talk to the coach of your favorite team to see whether they want this to happen. The answer may not coincide with your beliefs.
Re: Utica to the SUNYAC? - Biggar's Column
So, who isn't owed a return trip by Midd?????
Middlebury is actually the team that owes the return trip to Elmira BTW
So, who isn't owed a return trip by Midd?????
elbojpb
Well-known member
Try this?
Try this?
Try this?
Suppose it were a Super League with two 7-team divisions, each with their own autobid?
PrezdeJohnson09
Proud supporter of Osmirwich hockey
Fishman'81
Black Bear since D-2
Re: Try this?
Re: Try this?
I like the idea,if it's feasible.I think it's gonna be a tough sell to get any one league to accept all the ECAC-W teams,though.
Utica is an attractive option due to the gate-revenue generated.EC is kinda-sorta cut from the same cloth,times 0.33.Hobart is geographically in a position to merit a look...But who's gonna want to bus it for hours and hours to Aston and Rye,then return home with their feelings quite possibly hurt?I'm betting that heavy-hitters Oswego and Platty have zero interest in adding Neumann and Manhattanville to their travel schedules.What would they possibly have to gain?
IMO,the NCAA should get rid of D-3 autobids entirely,expand the field to 16,and run 4 de-facto regionals at the 4 top seeds,determined by the PWR.Then,it wouldn't matter how big or small your conference is;it would be all about scheduling tough opponents and winning.
Re: Try this?
I like the idea,if it's feasible.I think it's gonna be a tough sell to get any one league to accept all the ECAC-W teams,though.
Utica is an attractive option due to the gate-revenue generated.EC is kinda-sorta cut from the same cloth,times 0.33.Hobart is geographically in a position to merit a look...But who's gonna want to bus it for hours and hours to Aston and Rye,then return home with their feelings quite possibly hurt?I'm betting that heavy-hitters Oswego and Platty have zero interest in adding Neumann and Manhattanville to their travel schedules.What would they possibly have to gain?
IMO,the NCAA should get rid of D-3 autobids entirely,expand the field to 16,and run 4 de-facto regionals at the 4 top seeds,determined by the PWR.Then,it wouldn't matter how big or small your conference is;it would be all about scheduling tough opponents and winning.
PrezdeJohnson09
Proud supporter of Osmirwich hockey
Scott Biggar
Member
Re: Try this?
Re: Try this?
This is very easy to setup as two indenpendent leagues both under the parentage of the SUNYAC. It would be identical to how the ECAC East, Northeast, and West are all independent leagues operating under the parentage of the ECAC today.
Re: Try this?
This is very easy to setup as two indenpendent leagues both under the parentage of the SUNYAC. It would be identical to how the ECAC East, Northeast, and West are all independent leagues operating under the parentage of the ECAC today.
Derek Dunning
Women's Division III Correspondent
Re: Try this?
Re: Try this?
So if the SUNYAC teams allowed this....is there a wait period for an automatic bid?
Re: Try this?
So if the SUNYAC teams allowed this....is there a wait period for an automatic bid?
PSUChamps2001
Member of the REAL Zoo Crew
Re: Try this?
Re: Try this?
SUNYAC WEST
BUFF STATE
FREDONIA
GENESEO
BROCKPORT
ELMIRA
HOBART
OSWEGO
SUNYAC EAST
PLATTSBURGH
POTSDAM
UTICA
MORRISVILLE
MANHATANVILLE
NEUMANN
CORTLAND
If and when Canton joins move Cortland to the West, and Canton to the East....Neumann is 35 miles or so closer then Plattsburghs trip to Fredonia....and 60 miles closer to Manhatanville then Geneseo.....The SUNYAC West would all be close to another with the farthest driving distance being Oswego to Fredonia (which they do anyways).
Re: Try this?
SUNYAC WEST
BUFF STATE
FREDONIA
GENESEO
BROCKPORT
ELMIRA
HOBART
OSWEGO
SUNYAC EAST
PLATTSBURGH
POTSDAM
UTICA
MORRISVILLE
MANHATANVILLE
NEUMANN
CORTLAND
If and when Canton joins move Cortland to the West, and Canton to the East....Neumann is 35 miles or so closer then Plattsburghs trip to Fredonia....and 60 miles closer to Manhatanville then Geneseo.....The SUNYAC West would all be close to another with the farthest driving distance being Oswego to Fredonia (which they do anyways).
Re: Try this?
Re: Try this?
Would they have to deal with the issue concerning single sport conferences? Seems like that could be an issue
Re: Try this?
Would they have to deal with the issue concerning single sport conferences? Seems like that could be an issue