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Utica College Pioneers '13-'14 = Lewiston or Bust

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OZFEST said:
Some one needs to call into Keeley and ask him about the Lakers!
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Don't you worry... I've been in attendance (or press) for 5 Laker games this season so I am well informed on their progress and will always pull for them first despite my innate ability to remain neutral on air! :)
 
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vcxc3200 said:
D corps is in severe need of some medical miracles. Down to 4 available, 3 legitimately healthy. Jide played a fair amount of ice time tonight. Slowy is out. Walker is out. Both are injured. I'm going to withhold injury details to keep myself out of trouble here.

Baird-Kirisits
Zappia-Hertz
Morton-Idowu were your D-pairs tonight.

On that note, buckle up. It's going to be a slightly bumpier ride in the stretch run than we anticipated.
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These pairings look OK for the most part; the first four guys have proven their worth, and Morton came in as a D-man and can certainly play at the blue line... (I don't now much about Idowu, but there ought to be someone on the UC roster who can acquit himself competently alongside of Rob.)

Probably we're looking at a lot more chip-and-chase/dump-and-run from Utica, and more stay-at-home D, but I can live with that.... What I can't live with is allowing opposing forwards to camp in the low-slot without a UC D there to keep them company.

That happened several times at Brockport, and it's got to stop, or this season is lost.
 
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Watched the stream tonight... Ugh.

This UC team is looking entirely mediocre right now (no offense intended to a Naz team that's much better than its record indicates.)
 
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Utica was able to dress 6 D tonight. Walker is healthy, Slowy has had enough treatment that they were able to fit him for some protective equipment and get him out there. Neither looked noticibly hurt tonight.

So the good news, the D wasn't bad at all.

The bad news.... I haven't the foggiest where our offense went. I'm puzzled.
 
vcxc3200 said:
Utica was able to dress 6 D tonight. Walker is healthy, Slowy has had enough treatment that they were able to fit him for some protective equipment and get him out there. Neither looked noticibly hurt tonight.

So the good news, the D wasn't bad at all.

The bad news.... I haven't the foggiest where our offense went. I'm puzzled.
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I am wondering if there is a chemistry problem, too much pressure with Olivieri leaving and whatever went on there. They don't look like they enjoy playing. Playing not to make a mistake will never work.
 
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vcxc3200 said:
Utica was able to dress 6 D tonight. Walker is healthy, Slowy has had enough treatment that they were able to fit him for some protective equipment and get him out there. Neither looked noticibly hurt tonight.

So the good news, the D wasn't bad at all.

The bad news.... I haven't the foggiest where our offense went. I'm puzzled.
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Hard to believe this is the same team that dominated the U-18 squad 6 weeks ago.

Was pleasantly surprised to see Slowy out there last night.

Nobody finishing right now. Morton had 2 breakaways and I believe Graff had the other but neither could light the lamp.

Also, the PP looks atrocious. 0 for 7 last night and 3 for 26 since the break.

Hopefully they start clicking otherwise it'll be a long last month of the season.
 
jcase said:
Hard to believe this is the same team that dominated the U-18 squad 6 weeks ago.

Was pleasantly surprised to see Slowy out there last night.

Nobody finishing right now. Morton had 2 breakaways and I believe Graff had the other but neither could light the lamp.

Also, the PP looks atrocious. 0 for 7 last night and 3 for 26 since the break.

Hopefully they start clicking otherwise it'll be a long last month of the season.
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I have the PP 2 for it's last 31, actually.
 
Re: Utica College Pioneers '13-'14 = Lewiston or Bust

vcxc3200 said:
Utica was able to dress 6 D tonight. Walker is healthy, Slowy has had enough treatment that they were able to fit him for some protective equipment and get him out there. Neither looked noticibly hurt tonight.

So the good news, the D wasn't bad at all.

The bad news.... I haven't the foggiest where our offense went. I'm puzzled.
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It's really about the D at this point, IMO.

Slowy doesn't look anywhere near himself to me, nor does Walker, and Idowu was a complete disaster tonight.

UC allowed Hamilton to waltz-in over the blue line all night, and that lead directly to the former's demise... No way this game should have ended-up a sister-kisser.

I've been waiting all season for the O to live up to it's potential, but it's hard to score when you have three forwards behind the net digging for the puck, and no one available to receive a pass in front of it.

I was very optimistic about this year in October, but right now I won't be at all surprised to see Utica finish 3rd in The West, and a country mile out of the NCAAs.
 
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OSUPBPMike said:
I have the PP 2 for it's last 31, actually.
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Olivieri was a huge loss leading that power play! As well as a solid defenseman at regular strength, he could get the puck up the ice quickly in transition, he will be tough to replace.
 
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He could play, had a monster slapper, etc., but UC would be plenty-deep at D without him, if the other guys were healthy and playing at full-speed... Utica needs stay-at-home D right now, and guys who can and will stand-up attackers at the blue line. Utica's current woes were in full-swing when Donny was still here.

(FWIW, some UC parents told me tonight that he left primarily because Heenan didn't want him to pinch so much. Can't vouch for the veracity of that, but I heard it from several people tonight.)
 
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Fishman'81 said:
He could play, had a monster slapper, etc., but UC would be plenty-deep at D without him, if the other guys were healthy and playing at full-speed... Utica needs stay-at-home D right now, and guys who can and will stand-up attackers at the blue line. Utica's current woes were in full-swing when Donny was still here.

(FWIW, some UC parents told me tonight that he left primarily because Heenan didn't want him to pinch so much. Can't vouch for the veracity of that, but I heard it from several people tonight.)
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Utica's loss has certainly been Nazareth's gain! He had 2 pts. last night. They don't play like a team.
 
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Let's not get carried away.

Donny is a good-enough D-3 guy (but not an All-American, by any means) and he's not going to make or break anybody's season in '13/'14... (Naz is still going to finish dead-last in the W this year, and probably next year, too.)

Utica had it's problems when Olivieri was here, and the same problems still exist in his absence... If Utica was healthy, nobody but his parents would even attempt to make a case to the contrary.
 
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So is UC done as far as the tourney if they don't win out? Maybe eh ?
 
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Still doing the show if anyone's interested.... Moving it back to 7. Times are approximate.

7-Matthew Webb
7:15-Marcus Zelzer
7:30-Luc Boby
7:45-Trying to get Dan Lukes from St. Norbert.... we'll see.
 
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sshablak said:
So is UC done as far as the tourney if they don't win out? Maybe eh ?
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Utica needs to start piling up the W's...and fast.

Hobart and Utica are the only two ECAC W teams with realistic shots at getting a bid most likely and Utica's is fading fast.
 
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vcxc3200 said:
Still doing the show if anyone's interested.... Moving it back to 7. Times are approximate.

7-Matthew Webb
7:15-Marcus Zelzer
7:30-Luc Boby
7:45-Trying to get Dan Lukes from St. Norbert.... we'll see.
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Make everything 8-9 pm. Dan Lukes unfortunately cannot join.
 
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It seems like the magic number for being excluded from Pool C consideration is 6. That's losses and 1/2 loss for a tie. By that measure Utica, Elmira and Hobart have all exceeded that magic number (with plenty of schedule left). Wouldn't want to discourage you, but the reality is......it's going to take a LOT of losing by a LOT of good teams for the ECAC West to get back in the mix. You would have to win virtually all of your remaining games AND hope for Norwich, Plattsburgh and Williams to win their tournament.
 
admiral0417 said:
It seems like the magic number for being excluded from Pool C consideration is 6. That's losses and 1/2 loss for a tie. By that measure Utica, Elmira and Hobart have all exceeded that magic number (with plenty of schedule left). Wouldn't want to discourage you, but the reality is......it's going to take a LOT of losing by a LOT of good teams for the ECAC West to get back in the mix. You would have to win virtually all of your remaining games AND hope for Norwich, Plattsburgh and Williams to win their tournament.
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Not arguing an ECAC-W bid is a long shot...but reading your post leads me to ask...isn't win % just one of the four primary criteria used to select the at-large bids?
 
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Yes it is just one of four main criteria....but undoubtedly the most important. Elmira's 7 losses already has them out no matter what they do from here on in. Utica has 4 losses, 4 ties (Equivalent to 6 losses) which is probably too many. In addition they are 1-2-2 against teams likely to be ranked in Top 15 East AND have a rather poor SOS. I think they would need a lot of help and luck to gain a Pool C. Hobart , on the other hand, has some credentials working for them and aren't done quite yet. They are 3-3-1 against top teams and if they win out, or something close, they could squeak in. Any loss in the next couple of weeks could mean the end.

With Plattsburgh, Norwich, Williams, Babson, Trinity, Geneseo, Oswego, Boston all still very much alive, it is going to be tough. Like I said, if Platty, Norwich and Williams would win their tourney's, Hobart could rate ahead of Geneseo,Oswego, Trinity and Boston for a Pool C.
 
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