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USCHO Music Thread: We All Have A Crush On Shirley Manson

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A friend on FB posted the top 10 songs when he graduated h.s. so out of curiosity I looked for the same. Godawful doesn't begin to describe it:

1. Lionel Richie - Say You, Say Me
2. Eddie Murphy - Party All The Time
3. Dionne & Friends - That's What Friends Are For
4. Simple Minds - Alive & Kicking
5. Klymaxx - I Miss You
6. John Cougar Mellencamp - Small Town
7. The Cars - Tonight She Comes
8. Stevie Nicks - Talk To Me
9. Mr. Mister - Broken Wings
10. Dire Straits - Walk Of Life

Huh. I drew a good #1 followed by an underwhelming field:

1 1 BETTE DAVIS EYES –•– Kim Carnes (EMI-America)-12 (5 weeks at #1) (1)
2 3 MEDLEY: INTRO VENUS/SUGAR SUGAR/NO REPLY/I’LL BE BACK/DRIVE MY CAR/
DO YOU WANT TO KNOW A SECRET/WE CAN WORK IT OUT/I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN
BETTER/NOWHERE MAN/YOU’RE GOING TO LOSE THAT GIRL/STARS ON 45 –•– Stars On 45 (Radio Records)-10 (2)

3 4 SUKIYAKI –•– A Taste Of Honey (Capitol)-15 (3)
4 2 BEING WITH YOU –•– Smokey Robinson (Tamla)-18 (2)
5 7 A WOMAN NEEDS LOVE (Just Like You Do) –•– Ray Parker, Jr. and Raydio (Arista)-15 (5)
6 6 LIVING INSIDE MYSELF –•– Gino Vannelli (Arista)-13 (6)
7 11 ALL THOSE YEARS AGO –•– George Harrison (Dark Horse)-4 (7)
8 9 AMERICA –•– Neil Diamond (Capitol)-8 (8)
9 5 TAKE IT ON THE RUN –•– REO Speedwagon (Epic)-13 (5)
10 10 SWEETHEART –•– Franke and the Knockouts (Millennium)-15 (10)

Here is every week since 29 June 1955.
 
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Huh. I drew a good #1 followed by an underwhelming field:

1 1 BETTE DAVIS EYES –•– Kim Carnes (EMI-America)-12 (5 weeks at #1) (1)
2 3 MEDLEY: INTRO VENUS/SUGAR SUGAR/NO REPLY/I’LL BE BACK/DRIVE MY CAR/
DO YOU WANT TO KNOW A SECRET/WE CAN WORK IT OUT/I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN
BETTER/NOWHERE MAN/YOU’RE GOING TO LOSE THAT GIRL/STARS ON 45 –•– Stars On 45 (Radio Records)-10 (2)

3 4 SUKIYAKI –•– A Taste Of Honey (Capitol)-15 (3)
4 2 BEING WITH YOU –•– Smokey Robinson (Tamla)-18 (2)
5 7 A WOMAN NEEDS LOVE (Just Like You Do) –•– Ray Parker, Jr. and Raydio (Arista)-15 (5)
6 6 LIVING INSIDE MYSELF –•– Gino Vannelli (Arista)-13 (6)
7 11 ALL THOSE YEARS AGO –•– George Harrison (Dark Horse)-4 (7)
8 9 AMERICA –•– Neil Diamond (Capitol)-8 (8)
9 5 TAKE IT ON THE RUN –•– REO Speedwagon (Epic)-13 (5)
10 10 SWEETHEART –•– Franke and the Knockouts (Millennium)-15 (10)

Here is every week since 29 June 1955.
I’m assuming we’re doing Week Of so here goes:
1 1 GET BUSY –•– Sean Paul (label)-14 (1) (3 Weeks at #1)
2 2 21 QUESTIONS –•– 50 Cent Featuring Nate Dogg (label)-10 (2)
3 3 IGNITION –•– R. Kelly (label)-29 (2)
4 6 I KNOW WHAT YOU WANT –•– Busta Rhymes & Mariah Carey Featuring The Flipmode Squad (label)-12 (4)
5 5 CAN’T LET YOU GO –•– Fabolous Featuring Mike Shorey & Lil’ Mo (label)-12 (5)
6 4 IN DA CLUB –•– 50 Cent (label)-20 (1) (9 Weeks at #1)
7 7 ROCK YOUR BODY –•– Justin Timberlake (label)-10 (5)
8 8 BRING ME TO LIFE –•– Evanescence Featuring Paul McCoy (label)-11 (8)
9 9 WHEN I’M GONE –•– 3 Doors Down (label)-27 (4)
10 10 PICTURE –•– Kid Rock Featuring Sheryl Crow or Allison Moorer (label)-26 (4)

I like that list outside of Kid Rock/Sheryl Crow.
 
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No Kep, you didn't even draw a good #1.

My week was horrid.

1 3 LOVE YOU INSIDE OUT –•– Bee Gees (RSO)-8 (1 week at #1) (1)
2 1 HOT STUFF –•– Donna Summer (Casablanca)-8 (1)
3 4 WE ARE FAMILY –•– Sister Sledge (Cotillion)-7 (3)
4 2 REUNITED –•– Peaches and Herb (Polydor)-13 (1)
5 6 JUST WHEN I NEEDED YOU MOST –•– Randy Vanwarmer (Bearsville)-12 (5)
6 19 RING MY BELL –•– Anita Ward (Juana)-5 (6)
7 9 THE LOGICAL SONG –•– Supertramp (A&M)-12 (7)
8 11 CHUCK E.’S IN LOVE –•– Rickie Lee Jones (Warner Brothers)-7 (8)
9 7 SHAKE YOUR BODY (Down To the Ground) –•– The Jacksons (Epic)-17 (7)
10 14 SHE BELIEVES IN ME –•– Kenny Rogers (United Artists)-7 (10)
 
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1 1 SMOOTH –•– Santana featuring Rob Thomas (Arista)-24 (1) (12 Weeks at #1)
2 2 BACK AT ONE –•– Brian McKnight (Motown)-20 (2)
3 3 I WANNA LOVE YOU FOREVER –•– Jessica Simpson (Columbia)-13 (3)
4 4 MY LOVE IS YOUR LOVE –•– Whitney Houston (Arista)-18 (4)
5 7 HOT BOYZ –•– Missy “Misdemeanor” Elliott Featuring NAS, EVE & Q-Tip (Goldmine/Elektra)-7 (5)
6 5 I KNEW I LOVED YOU –•– Savage Garden (Columbia)-12 (4)
7 54 AULD LANG SYNE –•– Kenny G (Arista)-3 (7)
8 6 I NEED TO KNOW –•– Marc Anthony (Columbia)-18 (3)
9 9 BRING IT ALL TO ME –•– Blaque (Trackmasters/Columbia)-11 (9)
10 8 U KNOW WHAT’S UP –•– Donnell Jones (Untouchables/LaFace/Arista/Sony)-16 (7)
 
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Went down a The Cure rabbit hole yesterday that finished with this. I don't care if Robert Smith now looks like a drunk aunt, his voice is still pristine.

And tonight while working I listened to all of Van Morrison's Astral Weeks for the first time in a long time. Too long - it's brilliant.

He needs to ditch the makeup bit, but he still has the voice.
 
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Götterdämmerung done. The 4, and the 10, are complete.

This is the most straightforward and quickest of the four Ring operas. The plot is strangely mundane after all the world-historic consequences of the first three stories, but that is kind of the point, as the Ring turns out to be the story of the passage of humanity from the Age of Gods through the Age of Heroes, to the Age of Man.

We open on Siegfried and Brunhilde shacked up on Brunhilde's enchanted fire rock, where every day she kisses him and sends him to commute to his job having adventures. Grane, her trusty steed from her Valkyrie days, is his ride. He takes the ring as a reminder of her love and goes off to meet great men and challenge them thusly: "now fight me, or be my friend"!

Literally meanwhile in another part of the forest, a race of people settled along the Rhine, the Gibichungs, is having some court intrigue. Machiavellian minister Hagen has convinced brother and sister rulers Gunther and Gutrune it will help their Q scores to get married and, for once in Wagner, not incestuously. Hagen's harebrained scheme is invite Siegfried to lunch, drug him so he loses his memory, have Gutrune seduce him and then get him to use Tarnhelm to impersonate Gunther, abduct Brunhilde and bring her back so they can stage a big double wedding to wow the citizens: Gunther/Brunhilde and Gutrune/Siegfried.

Gutrune and Gunther actually go for this, which says something about the leadership quality of this principality. When we find out in a bit they are all Alberich's kids we are not surprised. They leave saying "I'll be in my bunk," and Hagen has an evil aside revealing his Real Plan is to get the ring for himself and, you're way ahead of me, Rule Zee Vurld.

Remember how I said Tolkien stole everything? As Hagen rubs his hands together in anticipation he even says, verbatim, "then I shall be the Lord of the Ring!"

Act II: it works.

However, Brunhilde (quite understandably) aint happy and blows the whistle on Siegfried in the greatest woman scorned aria outside Verdi. The prior marriage comes as a huge and unwelcome complication to Gunther, Gutrune, and most importantly Hagen. (Alberich had stopped by earlier, maybe he could have mentioned it?)

Anyway, whom to believe? There are blood oaths at swordpoint and now a serious number of people, even more than usual, want to stab Siegfried: Brunhilde cuz oh no he di'nt. Gutrune because he may be a bigamist. Hagen because he has to -- if it comes out Brunhilde is telling the truth then they're all f-cked. The Rhinemaidens because when they ask sensibly for the ring back (since the curse will destroy everyone who has borne it including Brunhilde and, now you mention it, Siegfried) he blows them off. Fine, we'll deal with your heiress, they say, leaving him all "why does everyone keep calling me 'meat'? I'm the one with the Porche."

In the worst picnic ever, Hagen gives Siegfried an undo potion to get him to remember, then immediately "honors" his blood oath by running him through, explaining Siegried has just admitted he perjured himself.

Gutrune says, "oh fish, he was telling the truth they were married, we shouldn't have done the whole wacky marriage scheme in the first place."

Brunhilde says, "oh fish, he was telling the truth he didn't remember we were married," builds a funeral pyre for him and rides poor old Grane into it.

The fire cleanses the curse from the ring so presumably Siegfried and Brunhilde go to Puppy Heaven. The Rhinemaidens grab it from the ashes and do an inappropriate happy dance given the circumstances. The flames reach Valhalla and it burns in the sky. The music peaks, and we are left with some incredibly beautiful lingering notes and a mass of common people, now without the supernatural, blinking out at the audience; facing the existential terror and absolute freedom of human life once we become aware that we are alone in the universe with no god or hero but ourselves. Fin.

The final ten minutes of Götterdämmerung, if done right, will save you from reading hundreds of pages of Schopenhauer, Nietzsche, Heidegger, and Sartre. It's the most sophisticated dramatic experiment with the theme of human freedom until Camus and S1 of West World. And, because Wagner was a genius, it's also lyrically beautiful and you can dance to it. I give it a 7. The four plus hours of the final opera pass very quickly. There is nothing sluggish, there is very little incidental subplot to silt up the story. Everything moves freely. Brunhilde, who was kind of passed from man to man in Siegfried, is now her own person (even as she's abducted and ignored -- artists will have their ironies). She's the real voice of this work until the final moments, when literally everybody who had anything to say is dead and the music has the last word. As with Tristan und Isolde, that's a welcome and beautiful climax.

Wagner's works, in chronological order (* are the Ring Cycle):
Code:
 4 Der fliegende Holländer
 5 Tannhauser
 7 Lohengrin
 8 Das Rheingold *
 6 Die Walküre *
10 Tristan und Isolde
 9 Die Meistersinger von Nürnberg
 5 Siegfried *
 7 Götterdämmerung *
 2 Parsifal

Wagner died exactly 80 years to the day of my birth, yet feels like he is from the future, or at least a possible and interesting future. Watching the 10 Wagner operas is much like seeing all of Shakespeare's plays (though not on 38 consecutive nights). I'm sure I will keep coming back to each of these operas again and again as I age, testing how "they" change.

Thank you for giving me the forum to talk about them. I looked forward to that every time I was getting drowsy under one of Wagner's lengthy parenthetical musical phrases.

"Joy is not in things. It is in us." -- Richard Wagner, 1813-1883.
 
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Late to the game on this...

From when I graduated high school, I haven’t heard of 6 of the artists or groups.

1 1 HAVE YOU EVER REALLY LOVED A WOMAN? –•– Bryan Adams – 9 (1)
2 2 THIS IS HOW WE DO IT –•– Montell Jordan – 16 (1)
3 4 TOTAL ECLIPSE OF THE HEART –•– Nicki French – 11 (3)
4 5 WATER RUNS DRY –•– Boyz II Men – 7 (3)
5 7 DON’T TAKE IT PERSONAL –•– Monica – 7 (5)
6 3 I’LL BE THERE FOR YOU / YOU’RE ALL I NEED TO GET BY –•– Method Man / Mary J. Blige – 6 (3)
7 6 FREAK LIKE ME –•– Adina Howard – 18 (2)
8 9 I BELIEVE –•– Blessid Union Of Souls – 17 (8)
9 8 I KNOW –•– Dionne Farris – 20 (4)
10 11 LET HER CRY –•– Hootie & The Blowfish – 14 (10)
 
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late to the game on this...

From when i graduated high school, i haven’t heard of 6 of the artists or groups.

1 1 have you ever really loved a woman? –•– bryan adams – 9 (1)
2 2 this is how we do it –•– montell jordan – 16 (1)
3 4 total eclipse of the heart –•– nicki french – 11 (3)
4 5 water runs dry –•– boyz ii men – 7 (3)
5 7 don’t take it personal –•– monica – 7 (5)
6 3 i’ll be there for you / you’re all i need to get by –•– method man / mary j. Blige – 6 (3)
7 6 freak like me –•– adina howard – 18 (2)
8 9 i believe –•– blessid union of souls – 17 (8)
9 8 i know –•– dionne farris – 20 (4)
10 11 let her cry –•– hootie & the blowfish – 14 (10)

hootie!!
 
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Speaking of garbage music

1
New
14 Shades Of Grey
Staind
-- Last Week1 Peak Rank1 Weeks on Chart

2
New
Deftones
Deftones
-- Last Week2 Peak Rank1 Weeks on Chart

3
Rising
Thankful
Kelly Clarkson
+47 Last Week1 Peak Rank6 Weeks on Chart

4
Steady
Fallen
Evanescence
-4 Last Week4 Peak Rank12 Weeks on Chart

5
Failing
Get Rich Or Die Tryin'
50 Cent
-32 Last Week1 Peak Rank16 Weeks on Chart

6
Failing
The Matrix Reloaded: The Album
Soundtrack
-15 Last Week5 Peak Rank3 Weeks on Chart

7
Failing
Come Away With Me
Norah Jones
-16 Last Week1 Peak Rank65 Weeks on Chart

8
Steady
The Lizzie McGuire Movie
Soundtrack
-8 Last Week8 Peak Rank5 Weeks on Chart

9
New
Mississippi: The Album
David Banner
-- Last Week9 Peak Rank1 Weeks on Chart

10
Failing
The Very Best Of Cher
Cher
-19 Last Week4 Peak Rank8 Weeks o
 
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Speaking of garbage music

1
New
14 Shades Of Grey
Staind
-- Last Week1 Peak Rank1 Weeks on Chart

2
New
Deftones
Deftones
-- Last Week2 Peak Rank1 Weeks on Chart

3
Rising
Thankful
Kelly Clarkson
+47 Last Week1 Peak Rank6 Weeks on Chart

4
Steady
Fallen
Evanescence
-4 Last Week4 Peak Rank12 Weeks on Chart

5
Failing
Get Rich Or Die Tryin'
50 Cent
-32 Last Week1 Peak Rank16 Weeks on Chart

6
Failing
The Matrix Reloaded: The Album
Soundtrack
-15 Last Week5 Peak Rank3 Weeks on Chart

7
Failing
Come Away With Me
Norah Jones
-16 Last Week1 Peak Rank65 Weeks on Chart

8
Steady
The Lizzie McGuire Movie
Soundtrack
-8 Last Week8 Peak Rank5 Weeks on Chart

9
New
Mississippi: The Album
David Banner
-- Last Week9 Peak Rank1 Weeks on Chart

10
Failing
The Very Best Of Cher
Cher
-19 Last Week4 Peak Rank8 Weeks o

I know Norah Jones is coffeehouse corporate, but I love that album!
 
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From Matrix Reloaded, the titles "Zion" and "Calm Like A Bomb" were decent.
 
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**** that. Norah Jones wails. Anyone who says different is wrong.


The lone bright spot on that chart.
 
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And from that David Banner album, "Crossroads" is an excellent track.
 
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**** that. Norah Jones wails. Anyone who says different is wrong.


The lone bright spot on that chart.

Not my thing, but from what little I've heard of Norah, it's good. Haven't heard enough to give a full rating. Small data sample, so to speak.

I commented only on the specific tracks on Matrix, can't comment on the soundtrack as a whole.
 
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U2’s Zooropa into Radiohead’s OK Computer made for a great night.

Capping off with Kid A.
 
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