Re: US National Teams: U30s & Mrs. Potter, U22s, U18s Part II
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US National Teams: U30s & Mrs. Potter, U22s, U18s Part II
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NUWH DogHouse
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Re: US National Teams: U30s & Mrs. Potter, U22s, U18s Part II
Not sure what level this camp is but I know NU plays Dartmouth the 31st.
Not sure what level this camp is but I know NU plays Dartmouth the 31st.
rangersrule
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Re: US National Teams: U30s & Mrs. Potter, U22s, U18s Part II
Isn't this the U-18 Camp? What college players would even be considered?
Isn't this the U-18 Camp? What college players would even be considered?
TonyTheTiger20
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Ted Knight
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Re: US National Teams: U30s & Mrs. Potter, U22s, U18s Part II
MN is for the National team. probably the same kids that went to 4 Nations.
MN is for the National team. probably the same kids that went to 4 Nations.
Re: US National Teams: U30s & Mrs. Potter, U22s, U18s Part II
Yep, that's my understanding. NU will probably be without Coyne for Dartmouth.
Yep, that's my understanding. NU will probably be without Coyne for Dartmouth.
Ted Knight
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Re: US National Teams: U30s & Mrs. Potter, U22s, U18s Part II
Winter Camp news...
Roster: http://www.usawomenshockey.com/page/show/1522955-2014-winter-training-camp-roster
Event schedule (PDF): http://assets.ngin.com/attachments/document/0067/1620/2014_Winter_Festival_On-Ice_Schedule_Winter_Camp_sch.pdf
Winter Camp news...
Roster: http://www.usawomenshockey.com/page/show/1522955-2014-winter-training-camp-roster
Event schedule (PDF): http://assets.ngin.com/attachments/document/0067/1620/2014_Winter_Festival_On-Ice_Schedule_Winter_Camp_sch.pdf
Re: US National Teams: U30s & Mrs. Potter, U22s, U18s Part II
The senior Winter Camp began yesterday, and the first scrimmage is this evening at 5:15 p.m. CT. Anyone planning on spectating is encouraged to bundle up... they keep Rinks 5 & 6 of the Super Rink complex extra chilly (I've found it to be colder than All Seasons Arena in Mankato, and that's saying something).
Re: US National Teams: U30s & Mrs. Potter, U22s, U18s Part II
Update from Blaine...
White defeated Blue, 4-3, in the regulation 60 minutes. The teams also played a scoreless 10-minute 4-on-4 session, and had a shootout that Blue won 2-1 in 4 rounds.
Quickly, the rosters were as follows:
White - Forwards - Anderson, Carpenter, Decker, Janiga, Knight, Pankowski, Pelkey, Skarupa, Smelker, Sylvester; Defense - Bellamy, Bender, Flanagan, M. Lamoureux, Picard, Ryan, Stecklein
Blue - Forwards - Brandt, Cameranesi, Coyne, Darkangelo, Duggan, Fry, Hickel, J. Lamoureux-Davidson, Steadman, Tivigno; Defense - Bozek, Gagliardi, Hirschy, Keller, McMillen, Pfalzer, Schleper
The goalies were not listed on either team specifically, but each played at least a period tonight. For the White, it was Vetter (1st), Rigsby (2nd), and Laden (3rd, OT, and shootout). For the Blue, it was Hensley (1st), McLaughlin-Bittle (2nd), and Schaus (3rd, OT, and shootout).
The only player that I noticed not playing was Cameranesi. Her parents were there and said she's ill.
Scoring (goals only, completely unofficial as I recorded them) - Carpenter, White (1st period); Hickel, Blue (2nd); Trivigno, Blue (2nd); Skarupa, White (2nd); Anderson, White (3rd); Pankowski, White (3rd); Brandt, Blue (3rd).
Shootout - Blue, JLam no shot (puck pokechecked away by Laden); White, Decker goal (upper net); Blue, Hickel goal (5-hole); White, Knight shot wide (right); Blue, Keller saved by Laden (Keller hesitated and Laden had time to get in position); White, Carpenter saved by Schaus (left pad); Blue, Brandt goal (upper net); White, MLam saved by Schaus (moving to Schaus' left).
Other notes...
My opinion was that the White team controlled play during much of the 1st period, the first half of the 3rd period, and the 4-on-4 session. I didn't notice any times that the Blue team really controlled play, but their two goals in the second period came less than a minute apart, one of the few times the White team had a lapse.
Megan Bozek took a forearm to the head in the third period when a White player (I didn't catch the number) tried to squeeze through a gap between Megan and the boards in an attempt to take the puck. No penalty was called. Megan was down for a few seconds before getting up and skating off on her own. She did return to the game.
Thought it was interesting that the Blue team had all the Gophers except Stecklein, and that the White team had all the Badgers except Duggan.
On both of Brandt's goals (the one in the 3rd period and the one in the shootout), she went high on Laden - just below the crossbar - and knocked the water bottle off the net.
There were a couple of Lam-on-Lam moments. Both times Jocelyne seemed to get the better of the deal, escorting Monique into the boards in the first period and nailing Monique with a slap shot in the 4-on-4 period (though Jocelyne gave her sister an opportunity to get out of the way with a delayed wind up).
That's it from me. Unfortunately, I can't make either of the other two scrimmages.
Update from Blaine...
White defeated Blue, 4-3, in the regulation 60 minutes. The teams also played a scoreless 10-minute 4-on-4 session, and had a shootout that Blue won 2-1 in 4 rounds.
Quickly, the rosters were as follows:
White - Forwards - Anderson, Carpenter, Decker, Janiga, Knight, Pankowski, Pelkey, Skarupa, Smelker, Sylvester; Defense - Bellamy, Bender, Flanagan, M. Lamoureux, Picard, Ryan, Stecklein
Blue - Forwards - Brandt, Cameranesi, Coyne, Darkangelo, Duggan, Fry, Hickel, J. Lamoureux-Davidson, Steadman, Tivigno; Defense - Bozek, Gagliardi, Hirschy, Keller, McMillen, Pfalzer, Schleper
The goalies were not listed on either team specifically, but each played at least a period tonight. For the White, it was Vetter (1st), Rigsby (2nd), and Laden (3rd, OT, and shootout). For the Blue, it was Hensley (1st), McLaughlin-Bittle (2nd), and Schaus (3rd, OT, and shootout).
The only player that I noticed not playing was Cameranesi. Her parents were there and said she's ill.
Scoring (goals only, completely unofficial as I recorded them) - Carpenter, White (1st period); Hickel, Blue (2nd); Trivigno, Blue (2nd); Skarupa, White (2nd); Anderson, White (3rd); Pankowski, White (3rd); Brandt, Blue (3rd).
Shootout - Blue, JLam no shot (puck pokechecked away by Laden); White, Decker goal (upper net); Blue, Hickel goal (5-hole); White, Knight shot wide (right); Blue, Keller saved by Laden (Keller hesitated and Laden had time to get in position); White, Carpenter saved by Schaus (left pad); Blue, Brandt goal (upper net); White, MLam saved by Schaus (moving to Schaus' left).
Other notes...
My opinion was that the White team controlled play during much of the 1st period, the first half of the 3rd period, and the 4-on-4 session. I didn't notice any times that the Blue team really controlled play, but their two goals in the second period came less than a minute apart, one of the few times the White team had a lapse.
Megan Bozek took a forearm to the head in the third period when a White player (I didn't catch the number) tried to squeeze through a gap between Megan and the boards in an attempt to take the puck. No penalty was called. Megan was down for a few seconds before getting up and skating off on her own. She did return to the game.
Thought it was interesting that the Blue team had all the Gophers except Stecklein, and that the White team had all the Badgers except Duggan.
On both of Brandt's goals (the one in the 3rd period and the one in the shootout), she went high on Laden - just below the crossbar - and knocked the water bottle off the net.
There were a couple of Lam-on-Lam moments. Both times Jocelyne seemed to get the better of the deal, escorting Monique into the boards in the first period and nailing Monique with a slap shot in the 4-on-4 period (though Jocelyne gave her sister an opportunity to get out of the way with a delayed wind up).
That's it from me. Unfortunately, I can't make either of the other two scrimmages.
Re: US National Teams: U30s & Mrs. Potter, U22s, U18s Part II
Great update, thanks so much for that.
Did you notice who was on which line? For me, a big clue that Trivigno was likely to make the national team was that she was put on a line with Knight at the camp in Maine. You put people on a line with Knight if you want them to succeed. Did you notice if Carpenter and Skarupa were together or apart? Who did they put with Duggan?
As an outsider, what was your impression of Laden? From a distance it seems that she's had so much help from the Quinni defence that it's hard to tell how good she is individually -- any things you picked up on?
Great update, thanks so much for that.
Did you notice who was on which line? For me, a big clue that Trivigno was likely to make the national team was that she was put on a line with Knight at the camp in Maine. You put people on a line with Knight if you want them to succeed. Did you notice if Carpenter and Skarupa were together or apart? Who did they put with Duggan?
As an outsider, what was your impression of Laden? From a distance it seems that she's had so much help from the Quinni defence that it's hard to tell how good she is individually -- any things you picked up on?
Re: US National Teams: U30s & Mrs. Potter, U22s, U18s Part II
Can't say that I was paying too much attention. Even when watching my beloved Gophers, I have trouble tracking when Coach Frost decides to switch things around. I only noticed a couple of defensive pairings, both with Gophers involved -- MLam and Stecklein were paired up when White had a power play, and Schleper and Bozek were paired together on the Blue squad on a couple different occasions.
She had some good saves. She flashed the glove on a backhand shot by Lyndsey Fry. But she also got some help from the White defense on several opportunities. As noted, both of Brandt's goals against her were high, but Hickel went five-hole in the shootout, so I can't make any conclusions there.
YabaDabaDoo
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I saw the remarks about players on Knights line, and Laden and would have to say that Knight, Duggan, Carpenter, players like that make others look great! Albeit you need to be good to play with them. Having said that, regarding netminders, it seems that for a long time USA hockey has gone with ones who seem to be on or at the top not paying much attention to what is in front of the prior to selection? I think most starting D1 netminders would do as good considering the talent in front of them on the National team, but consider netminders like Aubrey Moore who had a weak team in front of her and had to come up with big saves in almost every game, how would they do? Star names haven't gotten it done. There used to be a mindset "Midas" the we try harder people. There's lots of talent out there and it would be very telling if someone put together a team of Midas's to see. But I digress, it will never happen I think the same mindset will prevail.
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ARM
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Re: US National Teams: U30s & Mrs. Potter, U22s, U18s Part II
Hensley plays at Lindenwood, so that would constitute a weak team by most people's definition. Robert Morris was hardly a powerhouse while McLaughlin played there. It can be an adjustment for the goalies that routinely face 40 shots to play behind a US team where they may only see 15 shots and go 10 minutes without one.
YabaDabaDoo
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I get that, but regarding that thought, McLaughlin hasn't been a National Team starter and Hensley is getting good a look that being said I would be willing to bet that it is easier to go from 40 crazy shots to 10 outside and more predictable shots due to the high caliber of D out front. There are a lot of strange things regarding this process, like when you have 10 players selected as Patty Kaz. Candidates, how do they not make the team but untested young players do?
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ARM
Fan of chipmunk-like mascots.
Re: US National Teams: U30s & Mrs. Potter, U22s, U18s Part II
As for some of the other roster decisions made over the years, who knows? Certainly, I don't.
In my experience, some of those 15 shots will be high-quality chances. A bad pinch results in a two-on-one break or somebody turns it over in the slot, and the goaltender has to be ready. Some of those games where the U.S. is dominating Sweden or Finland but Martin or Räty is standing on her head can be very challenging for the American goalie.
As for some of the other roster decisions made over the years, who knows? Certainly, I don't.
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I have been watching hockey for over 50 years and I have no clue how to pull the top 18 out of a group of 36 elite players.
I am very sympathetic to YabaDabaDoo's question though. Some of the best goaltenders I have seen play for weak high school teams. They often are making fabulous saves & holding their team in games but their numbers do not reflect an outstanding performance. But universities don't seem to come calling for them, they want gaudy numbers. I have to assume successful coaches have thought of this & we're just wrong because at least one of them would have tried it.
I have been watching hockey for over 50 years and I have no clue how to pull the top 18 out of a group of 36 elite players.
I am very sympathetic to YabaDabaDoo's question though. Some of the best goaltenders I have seen play for weak high school teams. They often are making fabulous saves & holding their team in games but their numbers do not reflect an outstanding performance. But universities don't seem to come calling for them, they want gaudy numbers. I have to assume successful coaches have thought of this & we're just wrong because at least one of them would have tried it.
Re: US National Teams: U30s & Mrs. Potter, U22s, U18s Part II
This too has baffled me for years.
This too has baffled me for years.