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US National Teams: U30s & Mrs. Potter, U22s, U18s Part II

Re: US National Teams: U30s & Mrs. Potter, U22s, U18s Part II

This too has baffled me for years.
I think back to Schaus' years at BC. We were no powerhouse but you could clearly see that Schaus was keeping us in games.

Not that we were Mankato-level bad but we weren't Wisconsin either.
 
Re: US National Teams: U30s & Mrs. Potter, U22s, U18s Part II

Great start for the USA U-18 National Team:

Team USA Downs Canada in Shootout Thriller
http://www.usawomenshockey.com/news_article/show/463040?referrer_id=

Thanks for this.

Wasn't even aware that it was taking place with the airwaves filled up here with the Men's Junior Gold Medal Game being played tonight and another historic Russia vs Canada roller coaster ride it was. Tremendously entertaining and amazing game...and no surprise it was a full house. (Lots of dignitaries were there including PM Harper and Vladislav Tretiak who gave out the Silver Medals to the Russians).

But even so, it looks like there was a good crowd at this U-18 Women's game.

(If I understand correctly Ryleigh Houston [Canada] who took part in the shoot out is on her way to North Dakota, although I haven't seen her on Hux's list).
 
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Re: US National Teams: U30s & Mrs. Potter, U22s, U18s Part II

Is the International play getting better? The Czech's u18 national team wouldn't appear to be in the top 10 for u19 USA teams.

I think it is important to put things in perspective regarding the relative quality of International play. For example, the average age of the Czech team is 16. They have five 17 year olds, twelve 16 year olds and four 15 year olds. So it would be perhaps better to look a them as a U16 team if you want to make some kind of comparison.

Despite the fact the IIHF lists the number of registered Czech women players at 2.647, the number of active players is actually about 350 - 380. Sweden has 3.434 registered players and Finland has 5.830 registered players. On the other hand, the USA is listed as having 67.230 registered women and Canada is listed at 86.612. Even if those numbers for the USA and Canada are off by 20%, the difference in depth is huge.

All that being said, what are these countries with less depth of talent to do in order to keep the score down when playing USA or Canada. The Czechs and especially the Russians simply pack the D zone and play like it is a constant penalty kill, and then look for the occasional chance to counter-attack. It is not the most entertaining hockey, but it makes for a respectable score line.

This is what allowed the Czechs to take the USA into the third period at last year's Worlds semi-final with a 1-1 tie (the game ended 3-1 for the US) and the Russians to take the Canadians into a 0-0 overtime which the Russians lost 1-0.

One measure which I like to look at to judge the relative talent level is the power play conversion rate. With such a distinct depth advantage, teams like the USA and Canada should be converting their PP opportunities at about 30% or higher. So far this year, the US PP was 0-3 against the Czechs and 1-6 against the Russians.
 
Re: US National Teams: U30s & Mrs. Potter, U22s, U18s Part II

I think it is important to put things in perspective regarding the relative quality of International play.

Despite the fact the IIHF lists the number of registered Czech women players at 2.647, the number of active players is actually about 350 - 380. Sweden has 3.434 registered players and Finland has 5.830 registered players. On the other hand, the USA is listed as having 67.230 registered women and Canada is listed at 86.612. Even if those numbers for the USA and Canada are off by 20%, the difference in depth is huge.

And to make it worse in some countries there are "cultural" issues at play.

I was shocked to hear from an elite Finnish player that women playing hockey in Finland is frowned upon!! In Finland!

So despite our perceptions here in North America "cultural" values don't always cross borders neatly.
 
Re: US National Teams: U30s & Mrs. Potter, U22s, U18s Part II

And to make it worse in some countries there are "cultural" issues at play.

I was shocked to hear from an elite Finnish player that women playing hockey in Finland is frowned upon!! In Finland!

So despite our perceptions here in North America "cultural" values don't always cross borders neatly.
Could that be due to the prevalence of ringette in Finland? Per Wikipedia...
Today 10,000 young Finnish girls participate in 31 ringette clubs.
 
Re: US National Teams: U30s & Mrs. Potter, U22s, U18s Part II

Could that be due to the prevalence of ringette in Finland? Per Wikipedia...

No idea, could be I guess since ringette is a "female" sport.

But trends can change too. Ringette was hugely popular here 10-15 years ago but my understanding is that it is presently struggling for survival. I would think that Team Canada's high profile since Women's Hockey became an Olympic sport in 1998 has had something to do with it.
 
Re: US National Teams: U30s & Mrs. Potter, U22s, U18s Part II

And to make it worse in some countries there are "cultural" issues at play.

I was shocked to hear from an elite Finnish player that women playing hockey in Finland is frowned upon!! In Finland!

So despite our perceptions here in North America "cultural" values don't always cross borders neatly.

Well the best womens goaltender in the world had to play mens' pro hockey to continue to elevate her game
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-p...-year-contract-with-men-s-team-130533671.html
 
Re: US National Teams: U30s & Mrs. Potter, U22s, U18s Part II

When is the gold medal game? Is it free to watch?
Monday at 7 p.m. ET. The game is on fasthockey.com but that's a subscription service. A one-day pass is $9.99, so you can also watch the Bronze Medal Game (Russia vs. Czech Republic) at 3 p.m. ET.
 
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