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TV 19 - Simpsons Did It

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I know it's not a huge story but it's a great example of the mess Warner Discovery is in:

Pre-merger, Warner signed an 8 year contract with US Soccer to broadcast all the matches for the USMNT and the USWNT. Some of the matches are supposed to be on TNT but most are supposed to be exclusively live on HBOMax. The contract starts next month in 2023 and matches are supposed to be live on HBOMax in a few weeks (USWNT have friendlies in New Zealand on the 17th and 20th).

Does Warner Discovery have any capability to put any live event on any streaming service at this point? Let alone one they're contractually obligated too? I mean, the Wednesday NHL games are supposed to be available on HBOMax as well but aren't. Same thing with All Elite Wrestling.
 
dxmnkd316 said:
Wait what. Are you serious?
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Yeah, absolutely.

Turner Sports, a division of WarnerMedia, and the U.S. Soccer Federation have reached an eight-year multimedia rights agreement that will make TNT/TBS and HBO Max the exclusive English-language home to more than 20 Women’s and Men’s National Team matches each year. The new agreement, set to begin in 2023, will feature high-profile matches on TNT or TBS and a full slate of matches available through the HBO Max streaming platform. In addition, the strategic partnership will include digital and highlight rights for Bleacher Report and its portfolio brands, among additional content opportunities throughout the WarnerMedia portfolio.

HBO Max will live stream more than 20 United States National Soccer Team matches each year. TNT or TBS will televise approximately half of those matches – all simulcast on HBO Max – with the remaining matches being exclusive to the rapidly growing streaming platform.
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Like I said, first match is on the 17th of January, and it’s in New Zealand so really the 16th.
 
Slap Shot said:
Do the USNSTs even play 10 games each in a year?
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Yes.

Now, how many of them are games that US Soccer has the rights too? Maybe.

The WNT? Yea, they absolutely do. They play a lot of friendlies (they played 14 this year).

The MNT? Not as many but the rights include the World Cup Qualifiers and Nations League games. Granted, they won’t be going through qualifiers this time so there will be more friendlies the next 3 years.

That doesn’t change the fact that WBD is supposed to have a live broadcast in a month on a streaming platform that has shown zero capability to handle a live broadcast.
 
The reason HBO Max is taking down shows is they are writing down more losses and selling stuff off. AT&T ran them into the ground and they are still trying to fix a multi billion dollar hole.
 
Jimjamesak said:
I know it's not a huge story but it's a great example of the mess Warner Discovery is in:

Pre-merger, Warner signed an 8 year contract with US Soccer to broadcast all the matches for the USMNT and the USWNT. Some of the matches are supposed to be on TNT but most are supposed to be exclusively live on HBOMax. The contract starts next month in 2023 and matches are supposed to be live on HBOMax in a few weeks (USWNT have friendlies in New Zealand on the 17th and 20th).

Does Warner Discovery have any capability to put any live event on any streaming service at this point? Let alone one they're contractually obligated too? I mean, the Wednesday NHL games are supposed to be available on HBOMax as well but aren't. Same thing with All Elite Wrestling.
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I March of 2021 WBD stock was almost $80 a share. It's now worth a little over $10.
 
Handyman said:
The reason HBO Max is taking down shows is they are writing down more losses and selling stuff off. AT&T ran them into the ground and they are still trying to fix a multi billion dollar hole.
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The really crappy thing is that part of the move is so they don’t have to pay residuals to the actors.

So now companies are creating their own apps to stream their own content, and then removing their own content so they don’t have to pay, and now leaving viewers with no way to watch. I assume some of these shows will get picked up on other services, but since they’re just using some shows as tax write offs now some will never see the light of day because they never even premiered.

Since barely anything is released on a physical medium anymore, some shows can’t even be streamed because of rights issues, and now some are used as tax loopholes, I wonder how close we are to entering another age of lost media. Movies owed theirs to fire, TV owed theirs to taping over, and streaming might owe theirs to legal.
 
Spartanforlife4 said:
The really crappy thing is that part of the move is so they don’t have to pay residuals to the actors.

So now companies are creating their own apps to stream their own content, and then removing their own content so they don’t have to pay, and now leaving viewers with no way to watch. I assume some of these shows will get picked up on other services, but since they’re just using some shows as tax write offs now some will never see the light of day because they never even premiered.

Since barely anything is released on a physical medium anymore, some shows can’t even be streamed because of rights issues, and now some are used as tax loopholes, I wonder how close we are to entering another age of lost media. Movies owed theirs to fire, TV owed theirs to taping over, and streaming might owe theirs to legal.
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It happens. There is so much content now you just move on.
 
Spartanforlife4 said:
The really crappy thing is that part of the move is so they don’t have to pay residuals to the actors.

So now companies are creating their own apps to stream their own content, and then removing their own content so they don’t have to pay, and now leaving viewers with no way to watch. I assume some of these shows will get picked up on other services, but since they’re just using some shows as tax write offs now some will never see the light of day because they never even premiered.

Since barely anything is released on a physical medium anymore, some shows can’t even be streamed because of rights issues, and now some are used as tax loopholes, I wonder how close we are to entering another age of lost media. Movies owed theirs to fire, TV owed theirs to taping over, and streaming might owe theirs to legal.
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Pretty close. We have been barreling this way since massive corps started merging with studios and networks. It is only going to get worse to there are rumors of some deals on the horizon that rival the Fox/Di$ney merger. It's disgusting and destroying pretty much all forms of art.

Some of the stuff is being licensed off...but not enough. And you can already see that Netflix and their stupidity is going to be a casualty of a lot of this. WBD is already fighting with them and you know the rest will too. Their chickens are coming home to roost...

It all sucks but it is inevitable unless they get broken up. (They won't be)
 
Spartanforlife4 said:
I wonder how close we are to entering another age of lost media. Movies owed theirs to fire, TV owed theirs to taping over, and streaming might owe theirs to legal.
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Projects like Internet Archive and the Library of Congress are fighting a losing race in documenting the digital age.

Generations of websites in the early 2000s were lost because they were designed with Flash, or Java, and the internal workings that made them work couldn't be archived in time before they changed or were never scraped to begin with.

Physical media wears out over time as well. CD's have rot to them (the foil where the data is actually burned comes loose from the disk and data is lost that way). Hard disks lose magnetic strength over time and the 1s and 0s become a muddled mess with data loss. VHS tapes suffer the same consequences as hard disks. Also im sire the magnetic tape has aged and become brittle in the 20 years since its been touched.

And now with Vine and TikTok, lots of useful items are gone and forgotten. Were already seeing that with Twitter where Tweets vanish before they were archived.


A millennia from now, our physical media (written/printed media) will end around the year 1999 and archeologists will think Y2K was much more disastrous than it truly was.
 
They may not be archived but they can be found. There are multiple computers that snapshot the entire internet monthly.

BTW Westworld and others are going to third party streamers.
 
Handyman said:
They may not be archived but they can be found. There are multiple computers that snapshot the entire internet monthly.

BTW Westworld and others are going to third party streamers.
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Saw all of Westworld, and they did not finish it so it's a bummer overall for me. For everyone out there who has not seen it. Stream Season 1 and skip the rest. Season 1 is worth it.
 
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