The "Super League" press conference is now live.

[First Time Long Time]

So if that is your philosophy, shouldn't you be staying out of this thread?

You don't bother, why should anyone else?

 

[bigmrg74]

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6 schools is not a problem, it is a solution.

It's one thing for a school to not be able to survive without a conference, it's another to fold because your conference is no longer strong enough nor contains the big name schools.

If you have a conference and are able to get 10-14 home games from that and still can't make it work, then the school just isn't committed enough to the sport to make things work. If teams were able to survive in the CHA for years, the teams left in the WCHA and CCHA should also be able to survive as long as they stick togeather.

Every other athletic program exists at these schools in conferences that don't contain any of the big name programs, I fail to see why hockey can't work in the framework if you already have all of the structure and organization in place.

That said, I also understand why the fans of the schools who were excluded are so upset over this, no one wants to be kicked out of the country club after they were a member.

Its not so much that they're getting kicked out of their country club, its just that a lot of members have left, and now a real estate developer is threatening to buy up the great golf course so that he can tear it all up, put up housing all around it, and make it more into a Bushwood type course rather than say a Pebble Beach.

 

[Tipsy McStagger]

I think they came up with a name that will sound impressive on Versus and up in Canada, which at the end of the day is what this is all about.

The "National" Football League & "National" Hockey League had a pretty small geographic footprint when those leagues came up with their names [NFL - New York to Green Bay & NHL - Boston to Chicago]. So naming something "National" can mean where you are going rather than where you are at the present time.

Clearly the league wants Notre Dame ASAP. They should get them by August.

Long range they might want or dream about getting BC, BU, USC, UCLA, Oklahoma, Texas or Syracuse. Million to one shots to be sure, but a girl's got to dream.

Hahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!

 

[Dirty]

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You don't bother, why should anyone else?

Well given you request others stay out of certain threads, I just thought it was logical. Though I can see why you wouldn't want to abide by your own request, it would mean you couldn't post in any thread in five years when half the Husky athletic department folds.

 

[MikeAnderson]

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6 schools is not a problem, it is a solution.

It's one thing for a school to not be able to survive without a conference, it's another to fold because your conference is no longer strong enough nor contains the big name schools.

I have no doubt that the remaining schools will band together to form a conference of some sort. I question whether or not UAH will be a part of those discussions, and, if they are, if there will be anything more than lip service paid to them while the western AHA schools are offered any spot that UAH would occupy.

UAH thrived in CHA. Then the rug got pulled out and they fell on their ***. Their their face got stepped on when Jim Harris died and their guts ripped out when Williams left to be a dean at Ohio State.

It's hard for me to be rosy about this. Bemoan Lake State and Ferris all you want, we got ****ed on not once (five years ago when Air Force toppled the first domino), but twice (when the CCHA slammed the door), and I'm afraid this fall the third time will be the charm.

It's hard to hang out with people who simply don't want you around.

 

[First Time Long Time]

Well given you request others stay out of certain threads, I just thought it was logical. Though I can see why you wouldn't want to abide by your own request, it would mean you couldn't post in any thread in five years when half the Husky athletic department folds.

I'd rather you just left period, along with anyone else who would actively cheer the death of programs.
Personally you and Sicatoka can both go sit on something sharp.

 

[mookie1995]

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****...I was pulling for Hockey West.

"The Hockey Conference"

 

[davyd83]

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Let's see, UND came from a 6067 seat built with student fees rink. They'd be in there, with it full.
Before that UND had an unheated quanset with a sheet of ice with chicken wire instead of glass.

North Dakota built a program that could stand on its own long before Mr. Engelstad built an arena.

But keep making excuses about why other programs haven't been serious about their futures.

And so where did that put North Dakota in college hockey's financial landscape of the day? Oh yeah, they were right there in the upper echelon, you know back in the day when they were playing the frozen four in the DECC? Let's put Blais, Hakstol or Gasparini at Lake State or Tech and see just where their career win totals are. Dean Blais is one of the guys I respect most in the game, but please, if you can tell me that if he took the offer from Tech that he would have the same winning percentage that he had at North Dakota, I may beg to differ with you.

 

[MavsFan]

In a stunning bit of gamesmanship, Bruce McLeod is announcing that the WCHA will be re-named "The Lost Boyz".

I still prefer "Island of Misfit Toys."

 

[MavsFan]

Every other athletic program exists at these schools in conferences that don't contain any of the big name programs, I fail to see why hockey can't work in the framework if you already have all of the structure and organization in place.

Have you seen the attendance at Northern Sun Conference football and basketball? And those sports have a wider following than hockey does. Shades of things to come, and we cannot support D-I hockey on that.

 

[First Time Long Time]

Have you seen the attendance at Northern Sun Conference football and basketball? And those sports have a wider following than hockey does. Shades of things to come, and we cannot support D-I hockey on that.

Not only a wider following but for the most part, the schools left behind have had better success in those sports, even if they are at the D2 level and they still can't get the fans.

 

[MinnesotaNorthStar]

And so where did that put North Dakota in college hockey's financial landscape of the day? Oh yeah, they were right there in the upper echelon, you know back in the day when they were playing the frozen four in the DECC? Let's put Blais, Hakstol or Gasparini at Lake State or Tech and see just where their career win totals are. Dean Blais is one of the guys I respect most in the game, but please, if you can tell me that if he took the offer from Tech that he would have the same winning percentage that he had at North Dakota, I may beg to differ with you.

The same? No. But I don't think you can say he wouldn't have had success there. The Ralph has been a big reason why UND has had the success it has recently, but this program, it's tradition, and it wide support have been built up over decades of commitment to a successful program. UND wouldn't even have The Ralph (of which we have yet to raise a NC banner, FYI) if it weren't for the handwork and dedication put in by the previous administrations, players, and coaches of the past at the Old Barn, and The first Ralph Engelstad Arena. UND has EARNED everything they've been given in college hockey...donated or not.

Why don't we go ahead and rename the WCHA the Butt Hurt Hockey Conference. I get people are upset, I would be too, but pointing fingers and whining really isn't going to change anything.

 

[ACSabercat]

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I was hoping for something with Super in it. Like ... American Super Stars Hockey League ... go ASSHL

Go ASSH*L*s!

That's a good one. Tears in my eyes.

 

[jerryj]

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Naive to College Hockey's Condition

 

[burd]

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It's definitely sad to see the WCHA crumble like this. Many of us will miss the conference rivalries, large and small, a lot. I personally cannot fathom life without the need for gopher hate counseling. What do you do to fill a hate-void like that? But the tire factory was bound to close sooner or later, so adjust. Start by looking at the positives. Like the fact that Dirty will now be someone else's problem. To us Sioux fans, he's like cousin Eddy--a little disgusting but family, so we love him.

 

[Dirty]

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[uaafanblog]

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I have no doubt that the remaining schools will band together to form a conference of some sort. I question whether or not UAH will be a part of those discussions, and, if they are, if there will be anything more than lip service paid to them while the western AHA schools are offered any spot that UAH would occupy.

UAH thrived in CHA. Then the rug got pulled out and they fell on their ***. Their their face got stepped on when Jim Harris died and their guts ripped out when Williams left to be a dean at Ohio State.

It's hard for me to be rosy about this. Bemoan Lake State and Ferris all you want, we got ****ed on not once (five years ago when Air Force toppled the first domino), but twice (when the CCHA slammed the door), and I'm afraid this fall the third time will be the charm.

It's hard to hang out with people who simply don't want you around.

After the WCHA brings in Northern and UAF they'll have 7 teams. UAH has my support to become the 8th team. They certainly are every bit as deserving of a conference affiliation as any school left in the CCHA. Far be it for me to complain about another team's geographic isolation. It's been a long time since UAH came to Anchorage and vice-versa.

 

[Almington]

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Have you seen the attendance at Northern Sun Conference football and basketball? And those sports have a wider following than hockey does. Shades of things to come, and we cannot support D-I hockey on that.

I don't buy it, if AIC can support a hockey team with an average attendance of under 1000, all of the current WCHA and CCHA teams would absolutely be able to continue to have a program if they chose to post 2013-14. No doubt in my mind.

Schools some how manage to fund plenty of non-revenue sports for both men and women, to claim they can't support hockey is completely false. Given that the WCHA will continue in 2013-14 and beyond, none of the current WCHA teams will be conferenceless. In that case, if a school, both administration and alumni, are not willing to support hockey that isn't the fault of anyone but that schools administration and alumni. If they claim that they can't afford to keep the program now, the blame still lies with the administration of that school for not building a program which is strong enough to survive without having other schools fans subsidize the program.

Currently, the CCHA will have: LSSU, UA, WMU, FSU, and BGSU in 2013-14, if they add UAH and/or western AH teams they can still remain a viable conference. BGSU was questioning keeping the program before all of these changes were anounced, it wasn't as if the program was on a solid foundation to begin with.

 

[bronconick]

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The first thing the new conference will be doing with their massive TV contract they're about to sign is buy out the attorneys or the health care lobbyists that already own their website.

www.nchc.com
www.nchc.org

 

[MavsFan]

the blame still lies with the administration of that school for not building a program which is strong enough to survive without having other schools fans subsidize the program.

I'm getting so tired of explaining this. It's not about needing Gopher or Bucky or Sioux fans to "subsidize" us. It's about our own fans seeing a conference as big-time college sports, worth paying to see. The left-over WCHA is basically the Northern Sun with the addition of a couple of other D-II schools. If the fans don't support Northern Sun football and basketball, why would they support Northern Sun Hockey?

And don't tell me about increased chances of conference championships and NCAA berths. If the Gophers moved to the MAC, they'd increase their chance of conference championships too. Think Minnesota fans would buy that and still support the team at the same level? Would potential recruits buy it? Well, the leftover league is every bit as big of a step down from the old WCHA as it would be to go from the Big Ten to the MAC, maybe bigger.

The schools that have left us behind have EVERY RIGHT to act in what they see as their own interests. They don't owe us anything. Just don't tell us that we have no excuse if we fold up in the aftermath.