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The PPACA Thread Part IV - Repeal & Replace, or Something...

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Rover said:
Are you sure I don't share a name with your favorite porn star? :eek: I seem to be on your mind today... :D
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You're going to take sh-t until 11/2018; you know that right? ;)

Don't. Guarantee. Things. The universe's karmic balance does not like it.
 
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Kepler said:
You're going to take sh-t until 11/2018; you know that right? ;)

Don't. Guarantee. Things. The universe's karmic balance does not like it.
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Recall though that I'm pretty good and dishing it out as well as taking it!
 
Kepler said:
I'm going to try to put this to bed.

Nate gave Hillary a 93% chance of winning election the day before Comey became Putin's errand boy. It is true that the margin was still about 88% on Election Day, but 88% means more than 1 time in 10 Trump wins.

There were problems with the polling in the run up to the election but the problems were with the polling, not the poll analysis. The analysts did math. The math still works; the same probability functions are why basically all complicated technology works.

Tuna fish is still tuna fish if a .00002 grams in a can is, uh, not tuna.
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And let's not forget the national polling averages were pretty much correct, and if they only miss by about 1 percent less in the key states (or had missed the same amount but in the other direction), no one is talking about them.
 
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How do they come up with an approval rating for a piece of legislation? Who would they ask that actually knows all of the ramifications, staffers?

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walrus said:
How do they come up with an approval rating for a piece of legislation? Who would they ask that actually knows all of the ramifications, staffers?

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Do you not get newspapers and the internet where you live? The ramifications of the bill have been front and center since the day Ryan put it out there. Every news show covered it, every newspaper, the President talked about it, pundits on both sides discussed it...everyone knows what is in it. So you poll people the way you do about candidates...talk to registered voters.

That is why none of the Reps read it, nothing has changed from before except whatever concessions they made to the Fredumbers. The "Moderates" got bent over a table and they didnt even hide it was coming cause they were talking about it last week.
 
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walrus said:
How do they come up with an approval rating for a piece of legislation? Who would they ask that actually knows all of the ramifications, staffers?
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All of political science as practiced inside the beltway is the art of understand the political ramifications of legislation.

Did you think they voted on bills on the merits?

It's about winning and losing, and the Repeal is going to be one of the biggest self-inflicted wounds ever.
 
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Kepler said:
I'm going to try to put this to bed.

Nate gave Hillary a 93% chance of winning election the day before Comey became Putin's errand boy. It is true that the margin was still about 88% on Election Day, but 88% means more than 1 time in 10 Trump wins.

There were problems with the polling in the run up to the election but the problems were with the polling, not the poll analysis. The analysts did math. The math still works; the same probability functions are why basically all complicated technology works.

Tuna fish is still tuna fish if a .00002 grams in a can is, uh, not tuna.
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People really just don't understand probability very well. I think Nate Silver had it more like a 25% chance of Trump winning (I forget) which is still a very real chance.

The Penguins are currently winning their series despite controlling only like 35% of the shot attempts/possession. 65% is a very good chance but also not a prophecy.
 
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The Trumpers up here are out in full force saying how great health care will now be in Alaska since Obummercare has been repealed and how the CBO is giving out false information and fake news from the media.

I wish I could realistically move.
 
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Jimjamesak said:
The Trumpers up here are out in full force saying how great health care will now be in Alaska since Obummercare has been repealed and how the CBO is giving out false information and fake news from the media.

I wish I could realistically move.
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I thought "health care" in Alaska involved hand tools and a bottle of Jack.
So, instead now it'll be Crown Royal?

Or am I confusing Alaska health care with Alaska dentistry? ;)
 
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Kepler said:
All of political science as practiced inside the beltway is the art of understand the political ramifications of legislation.

Did you think they voted on bills on the merits?

It's about winning and losing, and the Repeal is going to be one of the biggest self-inflicted wounds ever.
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Merits are for losers, follow the money.
You don't take away benefits once given without feeling it at the ballot box.

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People up here always vote for this fool.

But Alaska's sole member of the House of Representatives has new confidence in the bill and its future. Now that there has been more time for negotiations, he said, he's ready to give over to the legislative process.

"This bill we passed today will not become law. It'll be changed as time goes by. But unless we move it, or move a vehicle, nothing's going to happen, and that's not good," Young said Thursday in an interview after the vote.

The full extent of the bill's impacts remains unclear, as the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office has not had a chance to release a "score" on the expected costs and effects of the law. Alaska may be among the hardest hit.

"I got a commitment from the speaker to take care of the disproportionate cost — we and Illinois are really hurt the worst but we think we can take care of that," Young said.

"And I know we have the money, about $19 billion that can be dispersed" to offset costs, he said. "I've talked to the Secretary (of Health and Human Services) — Dr. (Tom) Price — and he assures me that (Alaska) will be made whole, if it was to become law."
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To quote Scar: I am surrounded by idiots.
 
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Sounds like millions of vets might be screwed by this beyond just preexisting conditions... way to go GOP why should they get health care anyways?

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Handyman said:
Sounds like millions of vets might be screwed by this beyond just preexisting conditions... way to go GOP why should they get health care anyways?

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Not wrong per the veteran I heard this morning.

If you want to pay for pre-existing conditions and you need a pool then the pool has to be as big as possible to distribute out the costs. Biggest pool is the entire country. That's single payer. Just like Medicare/Medicaid. Should be trying to figure out how to make that work. Heard a Republican eluding to that concept today but they never go all the way and eliminating taxes and Medicaid money at the same time is just asinine.
 
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Handyman said:
Sounds like millions of vets might be screwed by this beyond just preexisting conditions... way to go GOP why should they get health care anyways?

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It really doesn't matter- we make sure we thank the vets at every game by recognizing their sacrifice.

Should be enough, right?
 
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Off topic (kind of):
I graduated B. Ch. E from Minnesota ten years ago today. I entered the job market on the cusp of the greatest economic turndowns since the 30s and a time of great uncertainty.

Today my brother graduated from med school (Minnesota) in a time of great uncertainty for the medical industry. We have no idea what is going to happen or how this is going to play over the next year. Funny how life works sometimes.

Here's to him and the medical profession.
 
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