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The definitive tournament speculation thread

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Collegeman said:
Earlier fro Josh C
arey "If UWRF beats SNC (the only way three NCHA teams could be considered), SNC should still grab a Pool C bid. If the other favorites win, it would come down to...
Unfortunately, there is no selection criteria for "make a game interesting" or "has doen what Falcons have done". See my analysis above for why UWRF needs to win to get in. "


So Josh since RF beat CSS twice and tied once and sainst only beat RF once in 4 games because Saints had a tougher schedule and beat Norbert once that puts them still back in the national tourney then, even the Gusties then as well

So Falcons have to win as the ONLY to have a chance to get in nationals then
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As Webb indicated, your understanding is correct. If River Falls wins Saturday they get to play again. If they don't, their next game will be next Fall. That's actually not the worst thing in the world. I know Superior came into the Cornerstone and won a few years back in the Peters Cup Final because they knew their season counted on it and they played like it. SNC didn't quite have the same urgency and knowing they were a lock for a Pool C if they didn't win may have factored in. Thankfully the NCAA Quarter was different.
 
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Since we all know the NCAA has and will do some funky things think about this .Adrian and Elmira both get in NCAAs, send Adrian to Elmira on wednesday ,if Adrian wins they stay there and head to Oswego on friday for saturdays game. If they lose head homeon thursday. Elmira to Oswego is much less than 500 miles.
 
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Brian C said:
Since we all know the NCAA has and will do some funky things think about this .Adrian and Elmira both get in NCAAs, send Adrian to Elmira on wednesday ,if Adrian wins they stay there and head to Oswego on friday for saturdays game. If they lose head homeon thursday. Elmira to Oswego is much less than 500 miles.
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Somehow I don't think that's what was intended when the NCAA wrote the rulebook...

Also, distances are calculated from campus to campus, not from current location to campus.
 
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one_to7 said:
Somehow I don't think that's what was intended when the NCAA wrote the rulebook...

Also, distances are calculated from campus to campus, not from current location to campus.
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Exactly.

Also, don't forget these kids are STUDENT-athletes.

Adrian would probably leave at the latest Tuesday for Elmira. Possibly even Monday. If they win having them stay there and continue on to Oswego and miss a whole week of classes will not fly.
 
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PrezdeJohnson09 said:
Exactly.

Also, don't forget these kids are STUDENT-athletes.

Adrian would probably leave at the latest Tuesday for Elmira. Possibly even Monday. If they win having them stay there and continue on to Oswego and miss a whole week of classes will not fly.
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I guess distance learning doesn't count

University of Phoenix does it all the time
They have a stadium but no sports teams :)
They may have a softball team in the Beer league
 
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PrezdeJohnson09 said:
Exactly.

Also, don't forget these kids are STUDENT-athletes.

Adrian would probably leave at the latest Tuesday for Elmira. Possibly even Monday. If they win having them stay there and continue on to Oswego and miss a whole week of classes will not fly.
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They are on Spring Break from March 5th-15th.

That said, I don't think this scenario is something the NCAA would do.
 
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PrezdeJohnson09 said:
Exactly.

Also, don't forget these kids are STUDENT-athletes.

Adrian would probably leave at the latest Tuesday for Elmira. Possibly even Monday. If they win having them stay there and continue on to Oswego and miss a whole week of classes will not fly.
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Prez made a funny! Adrian? Not Fly? I get it!!!!:D :D :cool:
 
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Question...Assuming Oswego and Norwich win both of their confernence tournaments...would Oswego's win over Platty boost them up enough to surpass Norwich for the #1 spot in the East?
 
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Ozz said:
Question...Assuming Oswego and Norwich win both of their confernence tournaments...would Oswego's win over Platty boost them up enough to surpass Norwich for the #1 spot in the East?
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It's possible.
 
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Ozz said:
Question...Assuming Oswego and Norwich win both of their confernence tournaments...would Oswego's win over Platty boost them up enough to surpass Norwich for the #1 spot in the East?
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I was thinking that too: does the strength of sweeping Plattsburgh outmatch Norwich playing 3 games for their conference title (granted, the Cadet's opponents look somewhat in middle of the road in talent)?
 
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Laker Ranger said:
I was thinking that too: does the strength of sweeping Plattsburgh outmatch Norwich playing 3 games for their conference title (granted, the Cadet's opponents look somewhat in middle of the road in talent)?
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Code: 
    Norwich vs Oswego
WIN      0.8636  0           0.9200  1
OWP      0.5318  1           0.5192  0
OOP      0.5248  1           0.5222  0
H2H     0- 0- 0  0          0- 0- 0  0
COP     3- 0- 2  0          6- 0- 0  1
RNK     7- 1- 2  0          5- 1- 0  1
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PTS              2                   3
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PWR             16                  17

For what it's worth (and who knows, really?), the Lakers already hold a healthy lead over Norwich in both Common Opponents and Ranked Opponents, the two criteria that would most obviously be affected by a win over Plattsburgh. I'm not sure how the two SOS factors would shake out, but considering the Cadets are playing a sub-.500 team right now, I assume Oswego would at least close the gap some. I think, therefore, it's at least clear that Oswego is helped more by a win than Norwich is by winning out. The question, particularly considering Oswego's failure to secure the #1 slot in the final poll despite the strong case shown above, is whether the committee would be willing to lower the ranking of a #1 team that won its conference tournament. I kinda have trouble seeing that happening, but hey: it's the NCAA.
 
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Dyce said:
Code: 
    Norwich vs Oswego
WIN      0.8636  0           0.9200  1
OWP      0.5318  1           0.5192  0
OOP      0.5248  1           0.5222  0
H2H     0- 0- 0  0          0- 0- 0  0
COP     3- 0- 2  0          6- 0- 0  1
RNK     7- 1- 2  0          5- 1- 0  1
============================================
PTS              2                   3
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PWR             16                  17

For what it's worth (and who knows, really?), the Lakers already hold a healthy lead over Norwich in both Common Opponents and Ranked Opponents, the two criteria that would most obviously be affected by a win over Plattsburgh. I'm not sure how the two SOS factors would shake out, but considering the Cadets are playing a sub-.500 team right now, I assume Oswego would at least close the gap some. I think, therefore, it's at least clear that Oswego is helped more by a win than Norwich is by winning out. The question, particularly considering Oswego's failure to secure the #1 slot in the final poll despite the strong case shown above, is whether the committee would be willing to lower the ranking of a #1 team that won its conference tournament. I kinda have trouble seeing that happening, but hey: it's the NCAA.
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Whether this even matters depends on what the committee chooses to do with the West. If the bracket is like last year with two quarters in the midWest, then having the #1 East seed is a whole lot better than being #2. If it's 7-4, but Adrian goes E, then 1E and 2E are equivalent.
 
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NUProf said:
Whether this even matters depends on what the committee chooses to do with the West. If the bracket is like last year with two quarters in the midWest, then having the #1 East seed is a whole lot better than being #2. If it's 7-4, but Adrian goes E, then 1E and 2E are equivalent.
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But of course. All considerations rightly defer to the unquestioned sanctity of that most paramount of concerns, the almighty Geographic Proximity ;)
 
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Prez, what do you do with Adrian bus to Elmira tues play on wed bus back wed after the game ,arrive mid morning or so on thurs and fly to Oswego on fri ? The location of Adrian is very difficult. Other options ? I thought winning and staying was the easiest option for them. No more missed class time than if they went home and flew back .
 
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Brian C said:
Prez, what do you do with Adrian bus to Elmira tues play on wed bus back wed after the game ,arrive mid morning or so on thurs and fly to Oswego on fri ? The location of Adrian is very difficult. Other options ? I thought winning and staying was the easiest option for them. No more missed class time than if they went home and flew back .
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The trip to Green Bay is no shorter plus it's been reported that Adrian is on break next week anyway.
 
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NUProf said:
The trip to Green Bay is no shorter plus it's been reported that Adrian is on break next week anyway.
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The NCAA regulations don't take into account whether a team is off or not. The committee would have to count on them flying even if the team probably would just stay.

Adrian would probably pay for the team to fly instead of taking a bus trip regardless.
 
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