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The 2010 Cycling Thread!

Re: The 2010 Cycling Thread!

Probert,

I'm not sure how you mean that, "should pretty much guarenteed invited" bit. Geox is, believe it or not, a PT team. Granted one of the worst, I saw yesterday they were ranked 29 out of 30 in Europe. However, by signing Menchov they get his points added to theirs so they'll be back next year, as PT. Even if they weren't PT, the plan is to change how the invite system works. I think its dumb, but it theoretically works like this this. Each non-PT team gets 18 points to spend on the PT/His races, which are weighted, once you spend them, your done with the PT for the year. This is from a cyclingnews piece from like May:

There would be more restrictions for Pro Continental teams wanting access to world calendar races due to the implementation of a points system. For now, the UCI proposes that each Pro Continental team would start the season with 18 points to spend. To participate to the Tour de France would cost 9 points; the Giro d'Italia, the Vuelta a Espana and major Classics would cost six points; and the smaller ProTour events would cost three points. This system would prevent teams like Cervélo, Cofidis, Bbox Bouygues Telecom and BMC from taking part in all of the races of the world calendar without being ProTour teams.
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Re: The 2010 Cycling Thread!

Titleist said:
Probert,

I'm not sure how you mean that, "should pretty much guarenteed invited" bit. Geox is, believe it or not, a PT team.
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I thought that PT status didn't matter for the GT? Hence, Shack not being invited to the Vuelta. Has that changed for next year? I thought that is what Probert was getting at. The Geox has good enough team to get invites.
 
Re: The 2010 Cycling Thread!

The GTs this year, and last I believe, had a special deal. Something like the top 17 teams last year were invited and the rest had to apply. I'll try to dig it up, but there were a certain number of teams that were locked in. It stemmed from the argument between ASO and the PT a number of years ago.


This article kind of explains it...There were 16 teams pre-selected, Geox is simply a renamed Footon... Keep in mind this is list for the TDF only but the agreement covered all GTs.
 
Re: The 2010 Cycling Thread!

Less than a week to The Vuelta and nothing up on velogames should we run a pool on when and if he sets everything up.
 
Re: The 2010 Cycling Thread!

Probert said:
Less than a week to The Vuelta and nothing up on velogames should we run a pool on when and if he sets everything up.
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Now Tuesday and no update on the site at all.
Should we look for an alternate game again?
 
Re: The 2010 Cycling Thread!

As of now, I've only been able to find confirmed teams from 8 of the 22 teams riding the Vuelta. The Vuelta website doesn't have the rider list updated yet.
 
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VeloNews has a preliminary list...

http://velonews.competitor.com/2010/08/news/vuelta-a-espana-releases-preliminary-start-list_134362

EDIT: I started compiling the fantasy rider list based on the above preliminary start list. There will definitely be some changes from that...there were 4 or 5 that I knew of from just recent articles. Then I sorted most of them into their respective category...all around, climber, sprinter, domestique.

Once we get a better, more updated list, then we can start applying the rider values. :)
 
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Re: The 2010 Cycling Thread!

Alright, how does this look for now? Let me know if any rider values look completely out of whack...they can be changed.
Also, there are still some riders that need to be confirmed. Like VandeVelde from Garmin...I've heard he's riding for sure, but he's still not on their "roster" and I don't know who he's replacing. So some riders will have to be added/removed from this list:

Code: 
Rider	Team	Value	Category
Denis Menchov	Rabobank	24	AR
Vincenzo Nibali	Liquigas	20	AR
Carlos Sastre	Cervelo	18	AR
LL Sanchez	Caisse d'Epargne	18	AR
Frank Schleck	Saxo Bank	18	AR
David Arroyo	Caisse d'Epargne	14	AR
Igor Anton	Euskaltel	14	AR
Thomas Lofkvist	Sky	12	AR
Nicholas Roche	Ag2r	12	AR
Andrey Kashechkin	Lampre	12	AR
Vladimir Karpets	Katusha	12	AR
Tejay Van Garderen	HTC-Columbia	8	AR
Oscar Pereiro	Astana	8	AR
Christophe LeMevel	FDJ	8	AR
Andy Schleck	Saxo Bank	18	Climb
Roman Kreuziger	Liquigas	16	Climb
Joaquin Rodriguez	Katusha	16	Climb
Ezequiel Mosquera	Xacobeo Galicia	14	Climb
Jose Gomez Marchante	Andalucia	12	Climb
David Moncoutie	Cofidis	12	Climb
Marzio Bruseghin	Caisse d'Epargne	10	Climb
Rinaldo Nocentini	Ag2r	10	Climb
Thomas Danielson	Garmin	10	Climb
Juan Manuel Garate	Rabobank	10	Climb
Xavier Tondo	Cervelo	8	Climb
Egoi Martinez	Euskaltel	8	Climb
Carlos Barredo	Quick Step	8	Climb
Konstantsin Sivtsov	HTC-Columbia	6	Climb
John Augustyn	Sky	6	Climb
Markus Fothen	Milram	6	Climb
Mark Cavendish	HTC-Columbia	20	Sprint
Thor Hushovd	Cervelo	18	Sprint
Alessandro Petacchi	Lampre	18	Sprint
Daniele Bennati	Liquigas	16	Sprint
Tyler Farrar	Garmin	16	Sprint
Oscar Freire	Rabobank	14	Sprint
Greg Van Avermaet	Omega Lotto	12	Sprint
Sebastien Hinault	Ag2r	10	Sprint
Allan Davis	Astana	10	Sprint
Koldo Fernandez	Euskaltel	10	Sprint
Ben Swift	Sky	8	Sprint
Julian Dean	Garmin	8	Sprint
Danilo Hondo	Lampre	8	Sprint
JJ Haedo	Saxo Bank	8	Sprint
Jacopo Guarnieri	Liquigas	6	Sprint
Samuel Dumoulin	Cofidis	6	Sprint
Baden Cooke	Saxo Bank	6	Sprint
Fabian Cancellara	Saxo Bank	10	ZDom
Matt Goss	HTC-Columbia	8	ZDom
Simon Gerrans	Sky	8	ZDom
David Zabriskie	Garmin	8	ZDom
Philippe Gilbert	Omega Lotto	8	ZDom
Stijn Devolder	Quick Step	8	ZDom
Filippo Pozzato	Katusha	8	ZDom
David Millar	Garmin	6	ZDom
Leif Hoste	Omega Lotto	6	ZDom
Stuart O'Grady	Saxo Bank	6	ZDom
Rafael Valls	Footon-Servetto	6	ZDom
Oliver Zaugg	Liquigas	6	ZDom
Juan Antonia Flecha	Sky	6	ZDom
Jose Arrieta	Ag2r	6	ZDom
William Bonnet	Bbox	6	ZDom
Matteo Tosatto	Quick Step	6	ZDom
Gustav Larsson	Saxo Bank	6	ZDom
Lars Bak	HTC-Columbia	4	ZDom
Bernhard Eisel	HTC-Columbia	4	ZDom
Theo Bos	Cervelo	4	ZDom
Inigo Cuesta	Cervelo	4	ZDom
Manuel Cardoso	Footon-Servetto	4	ZDom
Jose Garcia Acosta	Caisse d'Epargne	4	ZDom
Ruben Plaza	Caisse d'Epargne	4	ZDom
Kjell Carlstrom	Sky	4	ZDom
Laurens ten Dem	Rabobank	4	ZDom
Javier Moreno	Andalucia	4	ZDom
Manuel Ortega	Andalucia	4	ZDom
Enrico Gasparotto	Astana	4	ZDom
Valentin Iglinskiy	Astana	4	ZDom
Vincent Jerome	Bbox	4	ZDom
Matthieu S*****	Bbox	4	ZDom
Nicolas Vogondy	Bbox	4	ZDom
Christophe Kern	Cofidis	4	ZDom
Amets Txurruka	Euskaltel	4	ZDom
Sebastien Chavanel	FDJ	4	ZDom
Matthew Wilson	Garmin	4	ZDom
Dario Cataldo	Quick Step	4	ZDom
Kevin De Weert	Quick Step	4	ZDom
Wouter Weylandt	Quick Step	4	ZDom
Vladimir Gusov	Katusha	4	ZDom
Joan Horrach	Katusha	4	ZDom
Alexandr Kolobnev	Katusha	4	ZDom
Robert Forster	Milram	4	ZDom
Dominik Roels	Milram	4	ZDom
Bjorn Schroder	Milram	4	ZDom
Niki Terpstra	Milram	4	ZDom
Serafin Martinez	Xacobeo Galicia	4	ZDom
Gustavo Rodriguez	Xacobeo Galicia	4	ZDom
Hayden Roulston	HTC-Columbia	4	ZDom
Xavier Florencio	Cervelo	4	ZDom
Martin Pederson	Footon-Servetto	4	ZDom
Mauro Finetto	Liquigas	4	ZDom
Imanol Erviti	Caisse d'Epargne	4	ZDom
David Lopez	Caisse d'Epargne	4	ZDom
Rigoberto Uran	Caisse d'Epargne	4	ZDom
Ian Stannard	Sky	4	ZDom
Guillaume Bonnafond	Ag2r	4	ZDom
Christophe Riblon	Ag2r	4	ZDom
Mauricio Ardila	Rabobank	4	ZDom
Sebastian Langeveld	Rabobank	4	ZDom
Nick Nuyens	Rabobank	4	ZDom
Javier Ramirez	Andalucia	4	ZDom
Assan Bazayev	Astana	4	ZDom
Andrey Zeits	Astana	4	ZDom
Alexandre Pichot	Bbox	4	ZDom
Tony Gallopin	Cofidis	4	ZDom
Nico Sijmens	Cofidis	4	ZDom
Jose Oroz	Euskaltel	4	ZDom
Olivier Bonnaire	FDJ	4	ZDom
Gianni Meersman	FDJ	4	ZDom
Christian Meier	Garmin	4	ZDom
Marco Marzano	Lampre	4	ZDom
Olivier Kaisen	Omega Lotto	4	ZDom
Gianpaolo Caruso	Katusha	4	ZDom
Evgeny Petrov	Katusha	4	ZDom
Paul Voss	Milram	4	ZDom
Martin Velits	HTC-Columbia	2	ZDom
Peter Velits	HTC-Columbia	2	ZDom
Philip Deignan	Cervelo	2	ZDom
Stefan Denifl	Cervelo	2	ZDom
Oscar Pujol	Cervelo	2	ZDom
Alberto Benitez	Footon-Servetto	2	ZDom
Arkaitz Duran	Footon-Servetto	2	ZDom
David Gutierrez	Footon-Servetto	2	ZDom
Enrique Mata	Footon-Servetto	2	ZDom
Giampaolo Cheula	Footon-Servetto	2	ZDom
David Vitoria	Footon-Servetto	2	ZDom
Maciej Paterski	Liquigas	2	ZDom
Ivan Santaromita	Liquigas	2	ZDom
Frederik Willems	Liquigas	2	ZDom
Luis Pasamontes	Caisse d'Epargne	2	ZDom
Peter Kennaugh	Sky	2	ZDom
Lars Nordhaugh	Sky	2	ZDom
Hubert Dupont	Ag2r	2	ZDom
Biel Kadri	Ag2r	2	ZDom
Ludovic Turpin	Ag2r	2	ZDom
Dimitriy Kozontchuk	Rabobank	2	ZDom
Grischa Niermann	Rabobank	2	ZDom
Manuel Calvente	Andalucia	2	ZDom
Sergio Carrasco	Andalucia	2	ZDom
Juan Estrada	Andalucia	2	ZDom
Antonio Piedra	Andalucia	2	ZDom
Jose Toribio	Andalucia	2	ZDom
Alexsandr Dyachenko	Astana	2	ZDom
Dmitriy Fofonov	Astana	2	ZDom
Josep Jufre	Astana	2	ZDom
Freddy Bichot	Bbox	2	ZDom
Yohann Gene	Bbox	2	ZDom
Perrig Quemeneur	Bbox	2	ZDom
Pierre Rolland	Bbox	2	ZDom
Arnaud Labbe	Cofidis	2	ZDom
Remi Pauriol	Cofidis	2	ZDom
Michael Buffaz	Cofidis	2	ZDom
Romain Zingle	Cofidis	2	ZDom
Benat Intxausti	Euskaltel	2	ZDom
Mikel Nieve	Euskaltel	2	ZDom
Pablo Urtasun	Euskaltel	2	ZDom
Gorka Verdugo	Euskaltel	2	ZDom
Pierre Cazaux	FDJ	2	ZDom
Mikael Cherel	FDJ	2	ZDom
Yauheni Hutarovich	FDJ	2	ZDom
Yoann Offredo	FDJ	2	ZDom
Arthur Vichot	FDJ	2	ZDom
Michel Kreder	Garmin	2	ZDom
Ricardo Van Der	Garmin	2	ZDom
Grega Bole	Lampre	2	ZDom
Mirco Lorenzetto	Lampre	2	ZDom
Manuele Mori	Lampre	2	ZDom
Daniele Pietropolli	Lampre	2	ZDom
Daniele Righi	Lampre	2	ZDom
Jan Bakelandts	Omega Lotto	2	ZDom
Christophe Brandt	Omega Lotto	2	ZDom
Mickael Delage	Omega Lotto	2	ZDom
Jean Peraud	Omega Lotto	2	ZDom
Jelle Vanendert	Omega Lotto	2	ZDom
Davide Malacarne	Quick Step	2	ZDom
Branislau Samollau	Quick Step	2	ZDom
Andreas Stauff	Quick Step	2	ZDom
Denis Galimzyanov	Katusha	2	ZDom
Dominique Nerz	Milram	2	ZDom
Matthias Russ	Milram	2	ZDom
Roy Sentjens	Milram	2	ZDom
Anders Lund	Saxo Bank	2	ZDom
Domenik Klemme	Saxo Bank	2	ZDom
Gustavo Cesar	Xacobeo Galicia	2	ZDom
Delio Fernandez	Xacobeo Galicia	2	ZDom
David Garcia	Xacobeo Galicia	2	ZDom
Marcos Garcia	Xacobeo Galicia	2	ZDom
Vladimir Isaichev	Xacobeo Galicia	2	ZDom
Gonzalo Rabunal	Xacobeo Galicia	2	ZDom
 
Re: The 2010 Cycling Thread!

Titleist said:
Brian, I'd help but don't have the time this week. Anyway, you may check Cycling Start Lists . Or we could try this, it looks similar to velogames: Fantasy Vuelta 2010. Then we can relax as we chase the red jersey.
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Excellent! We posted a minute apart on that one. :)
That start list shows the riders I was missing...excellent.

What does everyone think? Should we just use the Fantasy Vuelta from above? I just registered...it looks pretty similar and was easy to do.

EDIT: That site allows transfers after every stage...so if a rider isn't going well you can switch him for a different rider. That's fun. And you can create leagues as well.
 
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I am excited about the start list for the GP Montreal next month.

GP Quebec and GP Montreal Start Lists

The Montreal race will be the first ProTour race that I will see in person. While it is not the TdF, at least there are some decent riders there. I was afraid with the Vuelta and the Worlds that there wouldn't be any good riders there.
 
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I'm in! I'm reasonably happy with my team though I hope the scoring system is similar to velogames or I'll be in the transfer market quickly!
 
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I set up my team and joined the league I picked it by the seat of pants so will see how it does.
 
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OK, I'm in. My ten-minute team.



Roman KREUZIGER LIQ 28.0 GC
Mark CAVENDISH HTC 34.0 PC
David MONCOUTIE COF 25.0 KM
Carlos BARREDO QST 16.0 AR
Joaquim RODRIGUEZ KAT 22.0 AR
Samuel DUMOULIN COF 9.0 DS
Koldo FERNANDEZ EUS 5.0 DS
Wouter WEYLANDT QST 6.0 DS
Oliver ZAUGG

Not making any changes. i'm running what I brung, unless someone crashes out.
 
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Denis MENCHOV RAB 33.0 GC
Greg VAN AVERMAET OPL 18.0 PC
David MONCOUTIE COF 25.0 KM
Fabian CANCELLARA SAX 28.0 AR
Tom DANIELSON GAR 17.0 AR
Matthew GOSS HTC 8.0 DS
Alexandr KOLOBNEV KAT 5.0 DS
Thomas LOFKVIST SKY 7.0 DS
David MILLAR GAR 9.0 DS

I plan to make subs on the weekdays. :)
 
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Oh, and Universal Sports is gonna be showing the Vuelta. Not sure if it costs though.

I've got cycling.tv, so I'm all set anyway.

Unrelated, but check this out. I can't figure out how to link to the pic directly, so go here, click for the 'baby blue/black' image, and tell me, yay or nay.
 
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