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Re: The 112th Congress - A Congress divided shall not cry!
Yep. The delusion is certainly alive and well.
Yep. The delusion is certainly alive and well.
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The 112th Congress - A Congress divided shall not cry!
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ScoobyDoo
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Re: The 112th Congress - A Congress divided shall not cry!
You don't think Palin and Bachmann get into the race will be a huge distraction? I don't think there's any delusion involved here. Bachmann already went off the beam and did her own State of the Union response. The party will not be able to control that woman.
You don't think Palin and Bachmann get into the race will be a huge distraction? I don't think there's any delusion involved here. Bachmann already went off the beam and did her own State of the Union response. The party will not be able to control that woman.
Foxton
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Re: The 112th Congress - A Congress divided shall not cry!
Why in the world would I try to prove that lefty sites don't do that? Why not laugh at the ineptitude of the paragons of conservancy.
It's a rebuttal because you specifically singled out liberals as being the one giving her prominence when not only do the conservatives bring her up as the second coming of Reagan, but no one would even know about her without them voting her in in the first place.
Why in the world would I try to prove that lefty sites don't do that? Why not laugh at the ineptitude of the paragons of conservancy.
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Re: The 112th Congress - A Congress divided shall not cry!
Oh, from that perspective, sure. I thought you meant underestimate from a "can she win" perspective. I don't think it's underestimating her to say "Hell no". Or underestimating her to say that she has no shot at being the VP nominee, as Handy seems to think is a serious possibility.
But from the perspective of being able to pull in a nutbar 5-8% percent? Sure, totally.
Oh, from that perspective, sure. I thought you meant underestimate from a "can she win" perspective. I don't think it's underestimating her to say "Hell no". Or underestimating her to say that she has no shot at being the VP nominee, as Handy seems to think is a serious possibility.
But from the perspective of being able to pull in a nutbar 5-8% percent? Sure, totally.
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Re: The 112th Congress - A Congress divided shall not cry!
Boy, I think the Blue Dogs who took the hit for him on healthcare might have something to say about not giving him anything.
Boy, I think the Blue Dogs who took the hit for him on healthcare might have something to say about not giving him anything.
Re: The 112th Congress - A Congress divided shall not cry!
Guaranteed sales in the millions.
There's a million dollar idea - make a ****bot, call it a Palinbot, and build it to her body's specifications.
Guaranteed sales in the millions.
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Re: The 112th Congress - A Congress divided shall not cry!
I'd be shocked if these didn't already exist.
I'd be shocked if these didn't already exist.
ScoobyDoo
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Re: The 112th Congress - A Congress divided shall not cry!
You're vastly underestimating the nutbar wing of the party.
You're vastly underestimating the nutbar wing of the party.
Re: The 112th Congress - A Congress divided shall not cry!
I don't believe that they do. Robot technology has just gotten around to pets. **** slaves are just around the corner.
Handyman
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I dont care about her, I just love watching hypocracy in action. I want to watch people defend her like she isnt as crazy as the hobos on Lake Street
This holds true for the liberals that will defend Obama tooth and nail despite the fact that he is not liberal at all.
I subscribe to the George Carlin ideal...listen to him talk about politics or just society in general and you will get where I am going here I would prefer entropy to happen and the system break down completely than be one of the sheep that we see out and about these days. I would never admit that to any student I taught but I think the whole thing is a failure based on recent results.
And BTW Bakukin, I smile every day whether my teams win(which sadly they dont much do anymore) or lose...life is too short to actually give a crap. and I stopped having problems getting laid about 8 years ago 
edit to add: I am neither a lefty (I wont be voting for the Dems in the next election, I will vote for a true fiscal con if one even exists) nor am I delusional. If Palin can pull in the VP nod in '08 what exactly makes Bachmann so out of the realm? Whether you like to admit it or not she polls well, she does as well as TPaw and he is actually TRYING to run for higher office. Most likely Mitt will get the nod for Prez (that is just a guess) which means they will need a VP that can actually rally the base since Mitt is...well we all know what Mitt as a candidate. Bachmann is a Tea Party candidate, a fiscal conservative and the batchit crazy crowd love her...plus she is a midwesterner and old white dudes think she is hot...politically speaking it makes sense. I added rhetoric but I fully admit I was trying to real in a fish or two. Her even being well known is an embarrassment to me as a Minnesotan.
I dont care about her, I just love watching hypocracy in action. I want to watch people defend her like she isnt as crazy as the hobos on Lake Street
This holds true for the liberals that will defend Obama tooth and nail despite the fact that he is not liberal at all.
I subscribe to the George Carlin ideal...listen to him talk about politics or just society in general and you will get where I am going here
I would prefer entropy to happen and the system break down completely than be one of the sheep that we see out and about these days. I would never admit that to any student I taught but I think the whole thing is a failure based on recent results.And BTW Bakukin, I smile every day whether my teams win(which sadly they dont much do anymore) or lose...life is too short to actually give a crap.
and I stopped having problems getting laid about 8 years ago edit to add: I am neither a lefty (I wont be voting for the Dems in the next election, I will vote for a true fiscal con if one even exists) nor am I delusional. If Palin can pull in the VP nod in '08 what exactly makes Bachmann so out of the realm? Whether you like to admit it or not she polls well, she does as well as TPaw and he is actually TRYING to run for higher office. Most likely Mitt will get the nod for Prez (that is just a guess) which means they will need a VP that can actually rally the base since Mitt is...well we all know what Mitt as a candidate. Bachmann is a Tea Party candidate, a fiscal conservative and the batchit crazy crowd love her...plus she is a midwesterner and old white dudes think she is hot...politically speaking it makes sense. I added rhetoric but I fully admit I was trying to real in a fish or two.
Her even being well known is an embarrassment to me as a Minnesotan.
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Handyman
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Re: The 112th Congress - A Congress divided shall not cry!
Christ MSNBC would have one on every show just so they could throw stuff at it or beat it with a Sledge-o-Matic
Fox would have one...but it would be in the Green Room and would be used for...other stuff
Christ MSNBC would have one on every show just so they could throw stuff at it or beat it with a Sledge-o-Matic
Fox would have one...but it would be in the Green Room and would be used for...other stuff
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Re: The 112th Congress - A Congress divided shall not cry!
Evidence? It's not that I don't like to admit it, it's that it isn't happening. She has terrible numbers as compared to every other Republican candidate.
Yeah, no. Heard of Romneycare? He's not going anywhere.
Evidence? It's not that I don't like to admit it, it's that it isn't happening. She has terrible numbers as compared to every other Republican candidate.
Yeah, no. Heard of Romneycare? He's not going anywhere.
leswp1
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Re: The 112th Congress - A Congress divided shall not cry!
This. Living with Romneycare. This guy is the biggest con-man evah. Says whatever he thinks will get him elected and most certainly has no thought past the next month if it will help him get where he wants when he proposes anything. We are still digging out to the holes he dug for us by cutting tons of stuff with no LT plan. (cut smoking programs, teen preg programs, infra-structure programs, education...result- more smokers= more medical bills, teen preggers=more folks on welfare rolls, bridges crumbling with chunks hitting the cars below, school systems in receivership. Hmm.
ScoobyDoo
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Re: The 112th Congress - A Congress divided shall not cry!
You're vastly underestimating the nutbar wing of the party. Polls mean nothing right now. Michelle Bachmann hasn't even started bringing people down yet. And you're right about Mitt. He can't win cause he voted for the Republican Health Care plan. The Democratic Health Care plan didn't pass, and the Tea Party wants to repeal to the status quo.
And it's divides like that that will drive a wedge the size of Idaho through the primary process. They couldn't even get together to pass the Patriot Act for cripes sake.
You're vastly underestimating the nutbar wing of the party. Polls mean nothing right now. Michelle Bachmann hasn't even started bringing people down yet. And you're right about Mitt. He can't win cause he voted for the Republican Health Care plan. The Democratic Health Care plan didn't pass, and the Tea Party wants to repeal to the status quo.
And it's divides like that that will drive a wedge the size of Idaho through the primary process. They couldn't even get together to pass the Patriot Act for cripes sake.
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Re: The 112th Congress - A Congress divided shall not cry!
So who is? Every one of the candidates has severe issues, they aren't running McCain again, they have no young gun ready to go (all of them are 2016 guys) and there is no way Huckabee is winning a national election. So oh wise political one, save me from my delusions and tell me who will be the GOP Candidate in 2 years.
BTW Romney can't win for a bevy of reasons, but I think in the end he is the GOP John Kerry or this elections Bob Dole. He has been around forever, when he loses he plays the brave soldier and backs the candidates and really if he has any chance to make a move it is now because in 2016 he will be an after thought. they run him, he loses, he goes off into obscurity. Like I said, that is an opinion but as of right now no one else they can run can do better.
As for evidence to my comment on polling, it is based on this: http://www.startribune.com/politics...0c::D3aDhUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aUqc8_ec7PaP3i_oacyPDiU
Yes I know, it is a one straw poll, at CPAC where Looney Ron Paul ran away with it again, but it showed that despite her shortcomings and her "newness" she and TPaw are pretty much equal in the eyes of the "base" at the moment and she isnt even trying. (Romney with 23% is a good sign for him as well) TPaw wrote a book, is making public appearances everywhere (christ he was on the Daily Show and last year he was on MSNBC as much as anyone) and is supposed to be the rising star. It is a bad omen.
Who knows where we will be in in two years, hell in '06 I doubt anyone would have called what happened. (I know I didn't) I will admit I was wrong and will so again if Bachman fades into obscurity, and believe me I hope I am wrong for more reasons than I can count. A lot of it also comes down to whether the Tea Party has the balls to stand for their rhetoric...if they do she is a perfect way for the GOP to appease them. If they don't, then it will be whoever can sound the most convincing at the primaries saying they think Reagan is the greatest human being since Jesus
edit: I will be at work all day so I wont read until later, please don't take that as me ignoring your opinions WeWantMore. I enjoy debating politics (sadly we the people are the only ones who actually debate them based on facts anymore) even when people think I am hallucinating or misconstrue my leanings
So who is? Every one of the candidates has severe issues, they aren't running McCain again, they have no young gun ready to go (all of them are 2016 guys) and there is no way Huckabee is winning a national election. So oh wise political one, save me from my delusions and tell me who will be the GOP Candidate in 2 years.
BTW Romney can't win for a bevy of reasons, but I think in the end he is the GOP John Kerry or this elections Bob Dole. He has been around forever, when he loses he plays the brave soldier and backs the candidates and really if he has any chance to make a move it is now because in 2016 he will be an after thought. they run him, he loses, he goes off into obscurity. Like I said, that is an opinion but as of right now no one else they can run can do better.
As for evidence to my comment on polling, it is based on this: http://www.startribune.com/politics...0c::D3aDhUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aUqc8_ec7PaP3i_oacyPDiU
Yes I know, it is a one straw poll, at CPAC where Looney Ron Paul ran away with it again, but it showed that despite her shortcomings and her "newness" she and TPaw are pretty much equal in the eyes of the "base" at the moment and she isnt even trying. (Romney with 23% is a good sign for him as well) TPaw wrote a book, is making public appearances everywhere (christ he was on the Daily Show and last year he was on MSNBC as much as anyone) and is supposed to be the rising star. It is a bad omen.
Who knows where we will be in in two years, hell in '06 I doubt anyone would have called what happened. (I know I didn't) I will admit I was wrong and will so again if Bachman fades into obscurity, and believe me I hope I am wrong for more reasons than I can count. A lot of it also comes down to whether the Tea Party has the balls to stand for their rhetoric...if they do she is a perfect way for the GOP to appease them. If they don't, then it will be whoever can sound the most convincing at the primaries saying they think Reagan is the greatest human being since Jesus
edit: I will be at work all day so I wont read until later, please don't take that as me ignoring your opinions WeWantMore. I enjoy debating politics (sadly we the people are the only ones who actually debate them based on facts anymore) even when people think I am hallucinating or misconstrue my leanings
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walrus
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Re: The 112th Congress - A Congress divided shall not cry!
There isn't one Repub out there as of right now that has a chance of beating Obama, I have no idea why you guys are going nuts about Romeny, Bachman or anyone else. No Freakin Chance, Zero, nada, impossible, slim to none etc etc etc
There isn't one Repub out there as of right now that has a chance of beating Obama, I have no idea why you guys are going nuts about Romeny, Bachman or anyone else. No Freakin Chance, Zero, nada, impossible, slim to none etc etc etc
ScoobyDoo
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Re: The 112th Congress - A Congress divided shall not cry!
The economy doesn't turn around and Michelle Bachmann has a shot at beating him. Don't count chickens just yet.
The economy doesn't turn around and Michelle Bachmann has a shot at beating him. Don't count chickens just yet.
WeWantMore
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Re: The 112th Congress - A Congress divided shall not cry!
Right now, I'd bet on Huckabee being the GOP nominee if he runs. Which is unfortunate for everyone.
Anyways, you say Bachmann polls well... and then you point to a poll where she gets 4%? Okay then.
And Romney's 23% is not a "good sign". Again, he's one of two candidates who actually tried to win the poll.
So who is? Every one of the candidates has severe issues, they aren't running McCain again, they have no young gun ready to go (all of them are 2016 guys) and there is no way Huckabee is winning a national election. So oh wise political one, save me from my delusions and tell me who will be the GOP Candidate in 2 years.
Right now, I'd bet on Huckabee being the GOP nominee if he runs. Which is unfortunate for everyone.
Anyways, you say Bachmann polls well... and then you point to a poll where she gets 4%? Okay then.
And Romney's 23% is not a "good sign". Again, he's one of two candidates who actually tried to win the poll.
ScoobyDoo
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Huckabee got less than Bachmann did. Just saying.
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