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St. Cloud State University HUSKIES!!

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Eeyore said:
Really? Exactly what do you think she should have said that would satisfy you but not turn it into criticism of Giesen? That should be an interesting needle the thread.

And when you make a big point of accusing someone of lying about their motivations for saying something, you're on pretty shaky ground for getting snippy when someone else expresses skepticism about your own motivations.
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You seem to want to protect Giesson from his unfortunate reality.

It seems from the players' remarks that he was respected and appreciated. So to answer your question, and there's many different ways she "could" have worded it while being truthful, as an example she "could" have said "he's done a wonderful job here with our student/athletes (and maybe elaborate on that a bit) but unfortunately despite his best efforts it didn't translate into as much success on the ice that we feel our program needs. We wish him all the best in his future endeavours."

Nothing complicated, just respectful honesty instead of slight of hand phrasing.

As was mentioned by another poster his response was a mature and objective one...he took it well. He's a big boy and doesn't need to be protected from the reality of his situation and no dumping on him is required. And I'm sure he has been aware this possibility for a while so it shouldn't have been a complete surprise to him.
 
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Blackbeard said:
"He's done a wonderful job here...we're just going in a different direction."

What a bunch of politically correct mumbo jumbo!

Translation: "He's done a wonderful job here so we're firing him. And the different direction that that we thought we should pursue is one that includes winning."

She could have diplomatically spoken the truth instead of using bureaucratic double talk.
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What the definition of "is" is......that was political mumbo jumbo, what you've pointed out....was just courteous.
 
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It is going to be tough for SCSU to improve, if improvement is measured by wins.
Let's look at that:

If you are the bottom team, if you win just once against one of the top 3 teams , you've accomplished something.
So going 1-11 against the top 3 wouldn't be all that bad
stealing one game against each of the middle two teams would be about as good as can be expected.
so that makes you 3-17
and splitting against the 2 other teams on the bottom would be average
so 7-21 is about as good as it gets for the bottom teams

to move up, or get more wins, somebody else is going to have to win less and move down
just look at what Bemidji did this year, that shows how tough it is for change to ocurr

IMO, the teams are much closer in skill & talent than the W-L would suggest
and to improve in the standings or W-L, it is much more difficult when you consider the teams and schools
maybe the success of the men's program at SCSU will eventually spill over to the women
certainly college hockey fans across Canada and US are more aware now that they have a Hobey Baker winner and the recent success

but it isn't going to be easy, especially if they keep changing coaches unless they bring in someone with name recognition and a lot of contacts
few, if any, of those people are going to want to coach a woman's team, not to mention in St. Cloud
 
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Not sure if all the coaching staff was let go, I don't think so, there was no press release about coach Fetter not coming back. My guess is that he will be given the chance to apply for the head coach position. If he is hired, I hope his wife is not part of the staff, sometimes you need a "buffer" between the head coach and his assistants. Not always , but the good cop, bad cop analogy can be used to describe the relationship between head and assistant coaches. I don't think that would be the case if his wife was his assistant, if fact, it would be a terrible idea. You can't have a married couple coaching a div 1 team, it would not be healthy for the players or team.
 
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but it isn't going to be easy, especially if they keep changing coaches unless they bring in someone with name recognition and a lot of contacts
few, if any, of those people are going to want to coach a woman's team, not to mention in St. Cloud[/QUOTE]
I agree, it won't be easy, but it had to be done (coaching change).
They haven't changed coaches in 8 years, so that's not a issue. What's wrong with coaching a womens team?, and what's wrong with St. Cloud? I'm sure you are aware of the success of the SC men's program, no issues there.
 
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BigSandy said:
You can't have a married couple coaching a div 1 team, it would not be healthy for the players or team.
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Doesn't seem to have had a negative effect on Clarkson, although they are co-head coaches as opposed to head and assistant coaches.

Maybe that makes all the difference but even as co-head coaches I would imagine that your division of labour and responsibilities would have to be quite clear in order to avoid personal friction between the two which if not avoided would seem unlikely to not flow down to the team and affect the players.
 
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BigSandy said:
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but it isn't going to be easy, especially if they keep changing coaches unless they bring in someone with name recognition and a lot of contacts
few, if any, of those people are going to want to coach a woman's team, not to mention in St. Cloud
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I agree, it won't be easy, but it had to be done (coaching change).
They haven't changed coaches in 8 years, so that's not a issue. What's wrong with coaching a womens team?, and what's wrong with St. Cloud? I'm sure you are aware of the success of the SC men's program, no issues there.[/QUOTE]

ask the people that don't coach a women's team

not exactly the mecca of colleges, even for people from St. Cloud, may as well be North Hennepin Community College
and not exactly a place that makes anybody's top 100, or even 1000 places to live
 
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pokechecker said:
not exactly the mecca of colleges, even for people from St. Cloud, may as well be North Hennepin Community College
and not exactly a place that makes anybody's top 100, or even 1000 places to live
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What you are basically saying then is that having made the NCAA tournament two years in a row Bob Motzko is the greatest coach in the history of college hockey. :rolleyes:
 
pokechecker; ask the people that don't coach a women's team not exactly the mecca of colleges said:
This post might be one of the worse ever, it makes no sense in so many levels. Thank you for discrediting yourself, from here on, your posts and opinion are worthless, well done, not easy to do
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BigSandy said:
This post might be one of the worse ever, it makes no sense in so many levels. Thank you for discrediting yourself, from here on, your posts and opinion are worthless, well done, not easy to do
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you'd really be mad if you had asked what I thought of McGregor
 
BigSandy said:
One quick last thing Gvsualumni, You mentioned the u-18 canada connections, Jim has never brought in a player from the u-18 program. Wish the Fetters the best of luck, wether its here in St Cloud or somewhere else .
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He did bring Delayne Brian from Canada's u18 team to wsu
 
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FWIW, Ms. Fetter was scouting at USA Nationals this past weekend. I suspect Mr. Fetter was at PWHL this weekend.
 
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The longer it takes to announce a coach, the more I think Fetter will be chosen the new coach. I have mixed feelings, he has been the face of recruiting before Giessen was let go, and obviously since then. You could argue that last years freshman class was the best in some years, but was it good enough? This years class doesnt come with a lot of fanfare, dont think any of them were with u 18 national teams, but again, neither was last years class. I wonder when a coach change happens, if that affects any of the recruits that have committed.
 
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BigSandy said:
The longer it takes to announce a coach, the more I think Fetter will be chosen the new coach. I have mixed feelings, he has been the face of recruiting before Giessen was let go, and obviously since then. You could argue that last years freshman class was the best in some years, but was it good enough? This years class doesnt come with a lot of fanfare, dont think any of them were with u 18 national teams, but again, neither was last years class. I wonder when a coach change happens, if that affects any of the recruits that have committed.
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There is bound to be a few de-commits when there is a coaching change. You see this in other sports in the NCAA
 
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That's funny. From the Hux Report of commitments, I believe SCSU has TWO commitments for 2014-15 and ZERO for 2015-16. Geez, hope the Huskies don't lose too many . . .:)

I suppose the Fetter's have the inside track. Not much (if any) info in the St. Cloud Times on the hiring process, who is being interviewed, when this will all happen, etc.

For all I know, maybe the women's program has already hired a new coach! IMO, they could do a LOT worse than naming ex-Huskie Caitlin Hogan as the new coach. She is in California doing some coaching at this time. All she would have to do is win about 5 games the first year, and the locals would see vast improvement!!!
 
The Boomer said:
IMO, they could do a LOT worse than naming ex-Huskie Caitlin Hogan as the new coach.
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She could make the greatest impact as a player/coach. The Huskies have had a tough time locating the net ever since Hogan's class graduated.
 
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Jumping into convo late....but I'm assuming SCSU hires experienced college coach? Would they go to high school level?
 
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No. Has there been a high school coach go to DI without any college experience? I think Sertich at BSU (formerly) may have had college experience before Roseville HS. I guess I'm not sure...
Recruiting experience is a must. Most job postings will say at least 5 years college experience.
 
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